• On Paradigms and Kevin Correia

    Kevin Correia Is Joining The TwinsThe easy reaction to the news that the Minnesota Twins and Kevin Correia have agreed to a 2-year/$10 million deal is to overreact. I still plan to. But before I go down that path, I want to remind myself about paradigms.

    A paradigm is the story around the story that impacts our perceptions. The classic example (I think from Stephen Covey) is that while riding the subway, he saw the father of several small children watching them passively as they misbehaved quite badly. People were getting angry at the children and even angrier at his indifference. That perception, and the entire car’s reaction, changed when it became clear he and the children were coming from the hospital, where they had said their last goodbyes to his wife, their mom. He was in shock.


    A paradigm is the story the conman spins to make us think that doing something stupid is doing something smart. It can also lead to overreaction, as Aaron Gleeman and I discussed on our most recent podcast. We recalled the overwhelmingly negative reaction nationally and locally when the Twins drafted Ben Revere.

    Some of that reaction was undoubtedly driven by two paradigms in vogue at the time. First, that the Twins were cheap, and thus overdrafted Revere to save money. And second was that they were enamored with speedy piranhas over power. Ultimately, it isn’t clear that either was true, and it certainly isn’t clear that Revere was a good example of either.

    Here’s an interesting thought experiment. What if the paradigms at the time had been different? For instance, what if the Twins had the reputation of the “Moneyball” A’s? Had the A’s signed Revere, it would have been example of them recognizing the value of speed and defense, getting an underrated contributor in those overlooked areas at a bargain price. (And ultimately flipping him for more than he was worth.) It might well have been a love-fest.

    That’s the power – and the trap – of a paradigm.

    The signing of Correia faces a similar challenge. The current popular paradigms for the Twins are that they love “pitch to contact” starters and that they are cheap. Correia represents the worst of both of those philosophies. So, before I overreact, let me just say that I’m aware of these paradigms. I’m aware of their power. And I’m aware that neither paradigm is really true, with plenty of counter-examples. I’m even aware that Kevin Correia is not Jason Marquis.

    So what am I left with? Unfortunately, I think I’m left with Kevin Correia signed for two-years and $10 million.

    Correia's ERA over the last two years is 4.49 and that’s pitching in the National League. He wasn’t bad because he was unlucky. Instead, on those off-years where he’s been good, it’s because he has been lucky. And he’s never pitched in the AL.

    I guess he’s been fairly durable. However, just because you can make every start doesn’t mean you should, a lesson that the Pirates seemingly learned when they moved him to the bullpen after the trade deadline.

    And while there is room for a guy like that on the bottom end of a pitching staff, it isn’t on a multi-year deal. This is not dissimilar to the Twins signing Marquis last year. Except that Marquis wasn’t kicked off of the starting rotation the year before. And he had a better year. And he wasn’t given a multi-year deal.

    I get that the starting pitching market is drying up. I get that the Twins need someone to eat some innings. And I get that the most vitriolic critics will wallow in paradigms that aren’t really justified.

    But here’s something else that isn’t justified – giving Kevin Correia a two-year deal and 10 million dollars.
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    This article was originally published in blog: On Paradigms and Kevin Correia started by John Bonnes
    Comments 102 Comments
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Uhhhmmm, can you repeat the part, about the stuff?
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      He also actually isn't that durable. He has one season over 172 innings pitched. They should have, honestly, just saved that damn money and tried to someone turn the $5.5 million being spent on Blackburn into a viable 5th starter. They now are spending $10.5 million for both of them.
    1. Lesser Dali's Avatar
      Lesser Dali -
      Maybe Kevin Correia will have a paradigm shift which leads him to throw harder, have better stuff, and have a better mental make-up to be a starting pitcher. One never knows. It is too bad this signing came so late in the Christmas season. If it were a month earlier, maybe some of us could have sent Santa Claus a letter, asking for him to give Correia these gifts. But alas, It is too late for that... oh well, maybe next year.
    1. glunn's Avatar
      glunn -
      Look at the bright side - maybe this will raise the market for decent pitchers, thereby forcing other teams to pay more.
    1. drivlikejehu's Avatar
      drivlikejehu -
      No, this is really that bad. It's not an overreaction to say so. The killer is 2014; Correia will have been blasted out of the rotation by then, but it's $5 million down the drain for a season that is hopefully when things can finally head in a positive direction.
    1. h2oface's Avatar
      h2oface -
      Don't the Twins have pitchers like this signed in Rochester? Yes. And for 1/10th of the money. It will be interesting to see how the Ryan defenders spin the good out of this. Hey..... his ERA was 4.21 last year. Like being a minute late to the party and all that is left is smoke in the room.
    1. Big Daddy H's Avatar
      Big Daddy H -
      Kevin Coreia pitched some nice games when he was with the Giants. He pitched better last year then the year before. A new setting and a pitching friendly park may be just the ticket. He also may be learning how to be a better pitcher as many aging pitchers do. I cannot believe he will be as bad as Blackburn. What pitches does he throw, and at what speed? I think this should be at least part of the discussion.
    1. Big Daddy H's Avatar
      Big Daddy H -
      You guys must really not like Terry Ryan and Kevin Correia. I post a positive note on Correia and it's gone in less then a minute. Simply amazing!
    1. Big Daddy H's Avatar
      Big Daddy H -
      The 32-year-old, who had a 51.2 percent ground-ball rate, which ranked tied for seventh in the National League.
    1. h2oface's Avatar
      h2oface -
      Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy H View Post
      You guys must really not like Terry Ryan and Kevin Correia. I post a positive note on Correia and it's gone in less then a minute. Simply amazing!
      I think something is glitching on the site. I could only get the comments to come up if I entered here from the forum. If I clicked on the "read more...." at the end of the intro on the front page......... there were no comments on any of the articles just now. I can see your misguided "positive" comment just fine from here. ;-)
    1. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
      AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS -
      Day and Night TR talks....each word more useless then the next.... give me cancer now god!
    1. Paul Pleiss's Avatar
      Paul Pleiss -
      Loved this article, great way to spin the signing. Really liked the way you came at the Correia signing. GOODNESS! (your article, not the signing)
    1. SpantheMan's Avatar
      SpantheMan -
      Do you really think that Blackburn is a better option? I definitely agree with some of the others but really? Blackburn?
    1. tjsyam921's Avatar
      tjsyam921 -
      I guess this is Terry's way of killing the fans excitement over the two trades he made to add what could be good pitching???
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Is 6:30am too early to start drinking or to late to stop?
    1. sorney's Avatar
      sorney -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Is 6:30am too early to start drinking or to late to stop?
      I think the answer is *No* to both.
    1. twinswon1991's Avatar
      twinswon1991 -
      Terry Ryan just doesnt get it! I cant wait for the presser when TR says he signed a nice guy and a winner!

      Time for a major change at the top. Terry's solid trades will never be enough to offset his stupid free agent mistakes and pitch to contact philosophy.
    1. twinkiesfan11's Avatar
      twinkiesfan11 -
      I think a lot of you are overreacting to this signing.

      1. The pitch to contact, soft tossing comments are getting really old. Ryan just traded for three pitchers who don't fit this mold to varying degrees, it's obvious he's trying to find some guys who can strike people out.
      2. Whining about the contract is a little premature until we see how the market treats the rest of the available pitching. There have been some bloated ass contracts handed out all winter, this could look somewhat reasonable in another week or two.
      3. Blackburn is NOT a better option, he's completely imploded for two years in a row. They can't count on him for anything and any contribution he makes going forward should be considered an unexpected bonus.

      I'll admit, Kevin Correia was the LAST guy I wanted to see them sign this offseason. But if he's being brought aboard to chew some innings to keep Gibson's innings down and give Hendricks, Meyer and May more time to develop while the team won't be competitive anyway, I'm ok with it. Maybe he'll do well enough to generate some trading deadline interest and TR can flip him for another diamond in the rough C prospect.
    1. kirbyelway's Avatar
      kirbyelway -
      I would just let Blackburn be the #5 guy instead of wasting $ on this!!!
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy H View Post
      The 32-year-old, who had a 51.2 percent ground-ball rate, which ranked tied for seventh in the National League.
      You say that like it's a good thing. The Twins play in a flyball friendly park and possibly have the worst infield defense in the league. Groundball pitchers for the Twins are going to get eaten alive in 2013. Unearned runs will lose you games just as often as earned runs, this defense needs strikeout pitchers and this guy is the exact opposite of that.
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