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  1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Will any of these four guys pitch in Cedar rapids this coming summer?
  2. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Right my friend, I am also hoping they draft a guy that will get to Minnesota quickly...and if he ends up on the Top 10 list after 2013, thye didn't waste their pick.
    Updated 01-15-2013 at 11:10 AM by mnfanforlife
  3. Otwins's Avatar
    I think you are missing one but I am not sure of his name. He is the 4th pick in the 2013 draft.
  4. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    The Twins must have too many minor league players because they keep guys in the low levels that are ready to move on.
    Updated 12-10-2012 at 12:16 PM by mnfanforlife
  5. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lein
    I love Kepler as a prospect. I've seen him a few times now, and this year compared to last was a big jump in on-the-field production. At Spring Training this year he was playing games with the Beloit squad, and he was their best in-game hitter bar none in the 4 games I watched. I was actually flabbergasted after seeing what he did with them for that week that he wasn't on that team at all this year. Can say he's the first prospect where seeing him in-person bumped the opinion I had formed from reading/researching/etc... considerably upward, especially in the hitting department. Another guy who needs to skip a level after playing the same league 2 years in a row is Nate Roberts. Why they made him repeat Low-A this year is beyond me, plus, he's already 23. Might have set a record for runs scored if he'd played a full schedule with Sano, Vargas, et. al. hitting behind him.
    Hey I hear ya loud and clear. I dont understand why they need their prospects to dominate each level. Many top prospects struggled through the minors, but were pushed to the bigs quickly and ultimately succeeded just fine.
  6. Steve Lein's Avatar
    I love Kepler as a prospect. I've seen him a few times now, and this year compared to last was a big jump in on-the-field production. At Spring Training this year he was playing games with the Beloit squad, and he was their best in-game hitter bar none in the 4 games I watched. I was actually flabbergasted after seeing what he did with them for that week that he wasn't on that team at all this year. Can say he's the first prospect where seeing him in-person bumped the opinion I had formed from reading/researching/etc... considerably upward, especially in the hitting department. Another guy who needs to skip a level after playing the same league 2 years in a row is Nate Roberts. Why they made him repeat Low-A this year is beyond me, plus, he's already 23. Might have set a record for runs scored if he'd played a full schedule with Sano, Vargas, et. al. hitting behind him.
  7. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    "[QUOTE=roger;bt4592]Nine of the ten pitchers with the most innings pitched (25.0+) had ERA's of 2.43 or less. Montanez was best at 0.36 with Lo and Rosario both under 1.65. But Sanudo, Gibbons, Jorge, Landa, Minnesota's own Austin Malinowski, and De La Cruz were all between 2.00 and 2.43. Incredible group of young arms. "

    Montanez gave up 1 earned run all year. Thats amazing. The others you mentioned are just as worthy of promotions this coming summer. I picked my top 4 and went with it...but none of my 4 may ever play in the major leagues.
    Updated 11-12-2012 at 02:35 PM by mnfanforlife
  8. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    True that barely any of these guys will make it to Minnesota, if any at all. But it is nice to have a bunch of promotable guys starting somewhat together
  9. roger's Avatar
    Nine of the ten pitchers with the most innings pitched (25.0+) had ERA's of 2.43 or less. Montanez was best at 0.36 with Lo and Rosario both under 1.65. But Sanudo, Gibbons, Jorge, Landa, Minnesota's own Austin Malinowski, and De La Cruz were all between 2.00 and 2.43. Incredible group of young arms.


    Will they all make it? Of course not. But with nine exciting young arms one would think at least a couple will someday be pitching at Target Field.
  10. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Are we goin after Otani?
  11. johnnydakota's Avatar
    agreed , id like to add a running mate for him in shohei otani , they would make a nice 1-2 punch for any team in 2015-2016
  12. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    I dont see any of these guys taking innings from Berrios or Mata. Those two are worthy of a blog post each. But if one of these guys does become a starter next summer, they could easily join them in the Cedar Rapids starting 5.
  13. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Yeah, i know ERA can fluctuate quite a bit from year to year for relievers (and starters too for that matter). But the ERA crown often takes home the Cy Young in most cases. So, its a tough stat to keep very low throughout an entire season. Can't wait to see what these guys can do in a full season league. All of them made starts last year at some point.
  14. gil4's Avatar
    "ERA is the MOST important stat for a pitcher"

    It is the most important stat for evaluating current performance, but it is not the best indicator for future performance, especially as a player moves up levels. Even at the major league level, K/W is a better indicator of future ERA than current ERA is.

    I haven't really kept up on the predictive value of the newer metrics, but the rules "there's no such thing as a pitching prospect" and "there's no such thing as a prospect below AA" both apply. They had nice years, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for them (yet.)
  15. clutterheart's Avatar
    These guys should not take innings away fromBerrios and Mata for Cedar Rapids

    I will be surprised if any of them make the club as a starter.
  16. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Nice comparisons Seth. How bout the Taiwan kid eh? Must have insane command with those numbers.
  17. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    I really like all four of these guys. What's encouraging is all four of these guys throw 92ish, with Rosario often hitting 94/95.

    It might be fun to compare them to that 2009 (?) GCL Twins team that had Salcedo, Hermsen, Tonkin and Weller. Or that 2004 GCL Twins team that had Waldrop, Swarzak, Rainville.
  18. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mgraves
    Kepler posted K rates of about 20% his first two years, which then dropped to about 12%. It'll be interesting to see if he can maintain that level of contact going forward. If he can, I'd expect to see him at the big club before Sano. Sano strikes out a ridiculous amount and does not have a position. Both Sano and Kepler, however, I expect to skip AAA.
    Haha! Nothing would make me happier than to see Kepler speed past Sano on their way to Minnesota. However, it looks like Kepler is a year behind Sano/Rosario for now anyway. YES, Kepler's ability to hit for power and limit his strikeouts is a major + in his quest to move fast up the ladder. Again, nothing would make me happier than to see these talented prospects skip AAA (if they prove MLB worthy at AA).
  19. mgraves's Avatar
    Kepler posted K rates of about 20% his first two years, which then dropped to about 12%. It'll be interesting to see if he can maintain that level of contact going forward. If he can, I'd expect to see him at the big club before Sano. Sano strikes out a ridiculous amount and does not have a position. Both Sano and Kepler, however, I expect to skip AAA.
  20. Han Joelo's Avatar
    Me too. Would be great to have some hard throwers with low mileage on their arms as starters.
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