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  1. jtrinaldi's Avatar
    CR is the likely destination, they are the only city in the Western MWL that offers a direct flight from minneapolis. The Twins are all but done with Beloit.
  2. MWLFan's Avatar
    I agree with comments on the Snappers staff. These folks work very hard for low pay, some of it is just out of the love for what they do and they are really class acts. In the years I have been going to Snappers games if you watch them closely you can see how much work is put into entertaining you by these people. There aren't many of them and they do everything. It would be sad for us to see them leave Beliot, but the stadium and the player facilities need to be upgraded and I don't see that area of Wisconsin coming up with $$ to do so. It has a lot of other needs ahead of a minor league ball park. My 8 year old has grown up going to Snappers games and we might go for him, but I will switch to whatever team the Twins are affilated with and start trekking taht way. (Hoping Cedar Rapids. Much easier drive and better stadium then Clinton.)
  3. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack
    Good article Jim!!! First time I had been to Knuckleballs, bookmarked it.
    Thank you, sir. Appreciate you stopping by and thanks for the kind words.
  4. Blackjack's Avatar
    Good article Jim!!! First time I had been to Knuckleballs, bookmarked it.
  5. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    MLB Trade Rumors has the information on the CBA compensation rules.

    So... for example... IF the Twins don't trade Liriano and they DO make him a qualifying offer, which he turns down, then the Twins get a sandwich pick. For the sake of simplicity, let's assume Liriano is the only FA that gets a qualifying offer, making it the 31st pick of the draft.

    If Liriano signs with the Angels, the Angels would forfeit their 1st round pick, but it wouldn't be awarded to anyone. So the Twins' sandwich pick moves up to pick #30.

    But if Liriano signs with the Astros (yeah, I know... but go with me here), the Astros' 1st round pick would be protected since it's in the top 10, but they would lose their 2nd rounder instead. Thus the Twins' sandwich pick remains the 31st overall.
  6. John Bonnes's Avatar
    That's a good point. I can see one of those guys - Casilla or Valencia - being thrown in as a sweetener in a deal.
  7. ScottyB's Avatar
    I was thinking a nice trade might be Span and Casilla to the Nats for Lombo Jr. and 2 of the following - Robbie Ray, Kylin Turnbull, and Daniel Rosenbaum. Lombo is currently starting in left field and backing up at 2B, 3B and SS. He would slot in nicely batting 2nd after Revere and starting @ 2B. Span takes his place in the OF with Casilla a utility guy. Ray, Turnbull and Rosenbaum are 3 lefty starters. They don't have huge upsides, but I believe they could slot into the rotation in the next couple of years. Turnbull would have to be a PTBNL, as he signed last August.
  8. John Bonnes's Avatar
    One more question - are you sure about that CBA "only a sandwich pick" thing? I thought that the team would also get rewarded a pick immediately after (or before) the team that signed the free agent. I thought it was two picks that the team got.
  9. John Bonnes's Avatar
    I can't see them trading Valencia. Better to hold onto him and see if anything happens next year. There is no reason to trade him while his value is down, and there is no reason they have to trade him. It's not like he's a free agent.

    I also can't see them trading Casilla, just because I don't think anyone give up anything for him. Even a team like Detroit, who is supposedly desperate for a second baseman, can't see Casillla as enough of an upgrade to be worth the move. Bottom line: there are just too many other better options.
  10. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dog Dungan
    Not that I wouldn't be open to trading Danny V, but honestly, who is going to want to give up anything for him?
    It won't be much, of course, but I don't believe Valencia is totally void of value on the market. There are a number of factors that go in to establishing a player's trade value. Ability to excel at the game of baseball at the MLB level is certainly at the top of the list, but it's not the only factor. Valencia has MLB experience and has at least some history of moderate success at that level. He's also under team control for a number of years yet, so it isn't going to cost a team a ton of money to see if he can help them out.

    Valencia won't bring MLB ready pitching help. In fact, he won't bring much more than a moderate organization player in return if he's traded by himself. But one-for-one trades aren't the only trades made. It's probably more likely that he's included in a deal involving, say, Span or Liriano for example, that might induce a trade partner to give up a slightly higher level prospect than they would for one of those players alone.

    If the Twins believe Plouffe is going to stick at 3B (and why wouldn't they, at this point?), there's no future in the organization for Valencia at all. They aren't working him at other positions in Rochester and they have a couple other AAAA level 3Bs down there that can be called up in the event of injury.

    I think they'll include him in some kind of deal that gives him an opportunity to get back to the Bigs elsewhere. Valencia has made comments that he's trying to prove himself to 29 other teams in addition to the Twins. Ryan and Gardy have mentioned that they're getting good reports on Valencia from Rochester, but Ryan also said Plouffe is the full time 3B and they aren't going to have Valencia try other positions in Rochester.

    Add it all up and I get the feeling the Twins have possibly even told Valencia that they're going to try to trade him somewhere that he will have a better opportunity.
  11. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Not that I wouldn't be open to trading Danny V, but honestly, who is going to want to give up anything for him?
  12. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    This blog has been promoted to an article. Please feel free to comment there.
  13. gunnarthor's Avatar
    I think this article is, mostly, right on but I'm not sure if they held on to Span and Willingham I'd be disappointed. Liriano will be gone and probably for low A pitchers that the Twins think will help in a few years. A market for bullpen pieces could develop giving some value for Capps, Burton or Perkins or the Twins could keep all three. It'll be interesting to watch the explosion here if Capps option is picked up.
  14. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    Morneau may make sense to trade, but there has to be a market for his services and I can't imagine that there is at this point. Anyone who might want him at all would either give nothing in return OR require the Twins to eat almost all of his contract.That being the case, it makes no sense to trade him now. Better to keep him and see if he continues to improve and maybe learn to hit lefties again. A year from now, with $14 million less remaining on his contract, he could be much more marketable.

    As for trading Span, I'd prefer he not be traded, as well. I think I'm perhaps just less certain than you are that the pitching can be repaired simply through free agency. Then again, I'm not confident at all that someone is going to give up top of the rotation potential in return for Span.
  15. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Trading Denard Span goes toward "tearing this team down" though. Only Justin Morneau makes sense to trade out of that lineup (outside of Casilla and Carroll, but that's not likely to happen) in my view. Weakening the top of the lineup in order to get quality pitching that can be had on the FA market for at max $25 million is just not smart. I have said this elsewhere, but if I were promised that Joe Mauer would move up to the second spot and bring everyone else up with him, then I would be more willing to mess with the top of the lineup in this way. But . . .
  16. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    This is a great article that clearly defines the three position players that Twins fans could see as being All-Star Worthy, except for the emergence recently of Scott Diamond (if he had done just slightly better).
  17. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    It turns out that all the scouts were there Saturday, too, but because of the sellout, the club had to find them some alternate seating so they were spread out a bit more than usual. On Sunday, the whole big group of them were bunched together around home plate again.
  18. MWLFan's Avatar
    I would miss my trips to Beloit and my 9 year old loves the Snappers, but Cedar Rapids is just as good for me as I am about half way between the two. The stadium in Cedar Rapids is an improvement and the town is a good place to visit.
  19. Jim Crikket's Avatar
    I kiddingly tell people that if the Twins become affiliated with CR, I'd just rent one of the stadium suites and move in for the summer. Seriously, though, there's no doubt in my mind it would help local sales AND, over time, be good for the Twins as well. As players come through here and move up the organization, local fans will become Twins fans.

    I'm curious, too, as to who they were scouting, clutterheart. I did note that Saturday night, the number of scouts was much closer to the normal level. Less than half of the number there Friday night. Interesting.
  20. clutterheart's Avatar
    Would love to know who they were scouting
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