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  1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
    It's on the front page right now. Let us know what you think!
  2. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    In the unlikely event the starting rotation all pitch 8 innings and he is not needed...

    um, never mind
  3. twinscowboysbulls's Avatar
    Gardy and the GM do that all the time. It had more to do with service clock and the veteran SS in front of Bartlett. Now Bartlett is the Veteran, doesn't matter if he can do anything or not, there isn't anyone behind him anyways.
  4. Sconnie's Avatar
    That's why I think this is more Antony than Gardy.
  5. Jham's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie
    He has the nastiest stuff of a Twins pitcher for three innings. Better off in the bullpen for him and the team
    Oh, did Deduno not lead the team in quality starts last year? Who pitched into the 7th or 8th inning more than him? I forgot, the rest of the staff, throw in the new guys even, were consistently going 7 strong every time last year right? Deduno was better in the first and still better in the 7th than the other trash pitchers we have.

    Pelfry had one of the worst full seasons I've seen. He was rewarded with money and a spot in the rotation based on the hope that he'd improve. Deduno worked his butt off, improved on everything the Twins asked him to improve at, had the best season of anyone on the staff, comes in and pitches well in spring training after rehabbing his shoulder, and the Twins demote him to the pen based off the assumption that Pelfrey and Gibson will be better than their horrible showings last year and that Deduno will regress.

    The disturbing message this sends a young ball club is that doing what the club asks and working hard doesn't matter, and that management can't be trusted. Antony just called out players for not "stepping up". Why step up if the club is just going to play favorites anyway?
  6. Sconnie's Avatar
    He has the nastiest stuff of a Twins pitcher for three innings. Better off in the bullpen for him and the team
  7. lukingood's Avatar
    It is criminal that Deduno is not in the starting five. He may have the nastiest stuff of any pitcher in a Twins uniform.
  8. dgwills's Avatar
    [QUOTE=rukavina;bt10183]I felt watching him that:

    1) his sinker was outstanding
    2) the ball broke more than the umpire was expecting and he got screwed in ball/strike calling

    This was backed up by Inside Edge - Gibson was the fifth most-victimized pitcher in MLB in
    % of called strikes on pitches taken in-zone. (This was also explained by Parker - http://twinsdaily.com/entry.php/4458-Have-the-Twins-been-screwed-by-umpires)

    I don't know if the umps will start calling his strikes, but I am confident he will be a decent starter for the Twins.


    Nice post. I remember reading that article after reading it again. No way I could remember it off the top of my head. I guess he'll get more calls after he has been more successful, but we are getting into a chicken or the egg argument at that point.
  9. tobi0040's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie
    Of third basemen, corner outfielders, and first basemen with the big league club I trust Mauer the most to play consistently good defense and offense, more than Arcia, Plouffe, Willingham, Parmelee, or Colabello.

    The Twins started this season with Mauer at first presumably because Sano is/was the third basemen of the future, and Mauer had played first in the past, it was an easy transition with no real immediate candidates for the position coming up through the minors.

    No one knows what the future holds for Sano. He may come out of TJ surgery just like the kid from "The Rookie" and magically able to throw 100 mph, but we do know is best case scenario, he comes back ready to play for spring training 2015, and maybe not until mid way through the season, and maybe (though highly unlikely) never plays again. He wasn't a lock to come up to the bigs at any point this season, and now being out of baseball for 6 - 18 months, he's going to need to ease back into things. I'd look for Sano to be major league ready in 2016.

    Now the question becomes would you rather have Colabello/Parmellee at first than Plouffe at third? Or Colabello/Parmellee at first than Willingham in LF or Arcia in RF.

    i think Mauer could become a defensive upgrade over all of the other options, I don't trust Colabello/Parmellee to hit well enough over a season to justify the shift.

    What if Mauer negotiated that the only way he would get out from behind the plate is if he went to first?
    I guess for me I am more concerned about the future. I like the prospects of Mauer in a corner or 3B, then seeing what we can get on the free agent market at 1B or DH. Realistically, we could have a lineup with Mauer (LF), Buxton (CF), Arcia (RF), Sano (3B), Dozier (2B), and a FA 1B and a FA DH. Think aging corner OF, overweight players that can hit, etc. That is a pretty good lineup. Worst case, Arcia is your DH or 1B and you have one FA slugger and a FA RF, or Rosario or Hicks if they stick.
  10. Sconnie's Avatar
    Of third basemen, corner outfielders, and first basemen with the big league club I trust Mauer the most to play consistently good defense and offense, more than Arcia, Plouffe, Willingham, Parmelee, or Colabello.

    The Twins started this season with Mauer at first presumably because Sano is/was the third basemen of the future, and Mauer had played first in the past, it was an easy transition with no real immediate candidates for the position coming up through the minors.

    No one knows what the future holds for Sano. He may come out of TJ surgery just like the kid from "The Rookie" and magically able to throw 100 mph, but we do know is best case scenario, he comes back ready to play for spring training 2015, and maybe not until mid way through the season, and maybe (though highly unlikely) never plays again. He wasn't a lock to come up to the bigs at any point this season, and now being out of baseball for 6 - 18 months, he's going to need to ease back into things. I'd look for Sano to be major league ready in 2016.

    Now the question becomes would you rather have Colabello/Parmellee at first than Plouffe at third? Or Colabello/Parmellee at first than Willingham in LF or Arcia in RF.

    i think Mauer could become a defensive upgrade over all of the other options, I don't trust Colabello/Parmellee to hit well enough over a season to justify the shift.

    What if Mauer negotiated that the only way he would get out from behind the plate is if he went to first?
  11. tobi0040's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by LaBombo
    One of your outfielders of the future batted .192 last year, and the other is a bad fielder in an organization with no likely everyday DH after Willingham's deal is done at the end of the season. Buxton is almost certainly going to be a fixture but hasn't played above A ball. Sano is an enormous kid who was challenged at third even before he may have permanently lost arm strength from TJ.

    So it's pretty safe to say that the Twins should probably find the most valuable defensive position for their best player (and who will take up a pretty big chunk of their payroll for the next several years), and let the rest of the chips fall where they may.
    Agreed. Arcia had a positive 1 offensive war and negative 2 defensive war in just 100 games.
  12. LaBombo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mnfireman
    Where else do you play him? Buxton, Hicks & Arcia are the OF of the future, Sano is the 3B of the future and Mauer's concussion issues won't let him play C anymore.

    If the team had given him all off-season to learn 3B it might be a different story, but they thought Sano would be ready to go, so that is what it is. Maybe they deal Willingham and move Arcia to LF and move Mauer to RF, but then Buxton comes up next year and you have to move Mauer again.

    I would rather have Mauer, Willingham and Arcia in the line-up everyday over Colabello.
    One of your outfielders of the future batted .192 last year, and the other is a bad fielder in an organization with no likely everyday DH after Willingham's deal is done at the end of the season. Buxton is almost certainly going to be a fixture but hasn't played above A ball. Sano is an enormous kid who was challenged at third even before he may have permanently lost arm strength from TJ.

    So it's pretty safe to say that the Twins should probably find the most valuable defensive position for their best player (and who will take up a pretty big chunk of their payroll for the next several years), and let the rest of the chips fall where they may.
  13. twinsfan34's Avatar
    I have a feeling of Colabello is hitting and the OF is full...he'll DH a bunch, but if say, Pinto and Suzuki hit, then maybe Mauer will find more work at 3B (he already takes a few ground balls over there).

    But those are things that probably have to fall into place before there's really any urgency to try to get those guys in the lineup that much.

    And that's a problem, I'd be glad for the Twins to have. But it has to happen first.
  14. zchrz's Avatar
    The only person Mauer is really blocking anytime soon is maybe Vargas or Harrison in a year or two. First offers the least wear and tear, the smallest learning curve, and should allow him to not only stay healthy and on the field more but also let him focus his energy on hitting.
  15. mnfireman's Avatar
    Where else do you play him? Buxton, Hicks & Arcia are the OF of the future, Sano is the 3B of the future and Mauer's concussion issues won't let him play C anymore.

    If the team had given him all off-season to learn 3B it might be a different story, but they thought Sano would be ready to go, so that is what it is. Maybe they deal Willingham and move Arcia to LF and move Mauer to RF, but then Buxton comes up next year and you have to move Mauer again.

    I would rather have Mauer, Willingham and Arcia in the line-up everyday over Colabello.
  16. tobi0040's Avatar
    I wrote a similar blog awhile back. My take is in the short term Mauer would probably be better than Sano, Arcia, and Willingham at their respective positions.

    Long term if Sano sticks at 3B we could put Mauer in LF. Arcia in RF is he sticks or DH/1B if he doesn't. Flip Hicks for a pitcher or SS. And sign a good DH/1B in the mold of Cruz.

    I am hoping that we have Mauer at 1B because we want Sano and Arcia to stay where they are and we need time to evaluate. And we have Willingham in LF because we want to maximize his trade value. Long term, I agree Mauer's athleticism and arm would be a waste at 1B.
  17. twinsajsf's Avatar
    Wait, didn't Correia go 9-13 for one of the worst hitting teams in MLB last year? How exactly does that equate to "an automatic loss"? I'm not opposed to trading him for value, but "dumping" him seems a little extreme.
  18. DAM DC Twins Fans's Avatar
    I still think Gibson will follow the path of the previous Kyle (Lohse). We will never know which one will show up. What we saw last year in his stint here, or a pretty good prospect some project him to be.

    He does need to start at Rochester this year and work his way back. If Hughes, Nolasco, etc pitch well, then Gibson becomes excess. I do think between injuries and lack of effectiveness from one of the projected starters, Gibson will get a shot. IMHO he wont show much.
  19. rukavina's Avatar
    I felt watching him that:

    1) his sinker was outstanding
    2) the ball broke more than the umpire was expecting and he got screwed in ball/strike calling

    This was backed up by Inside Edge - Gibson was the fifth most-victimized pitcher in MLB in
    % of called strikes on pitches taken in-zone. (This was also explained by Parker - http://twinsdaily.com/entry.php/4458-Have-the-Twins-been-screwed-by-umpires)

    I don't know if the umps will start calling his strikes, but I am confident he will be a decent starter for the Twins.


    Updated 01-31-2014 at 11:14 AM by rukavina
  20. ND-Fan's Avatar
    When he was brought up he had pitched near top of innings for pitcher recovering from Tommy-John surgery. I think he was worn down and his control and pitch movement had been effected from being worn down. I bet when we see him again were going to see much more polished pitcher who has better control of his pitches. I also think it was good learning experience for him to know what he had to work on. I think this why Twins did bring him up last year it was teaching experience and also reward that he is in their future plans. I think he will become effective middle of road starter that could have few real quality years for the Twins barring any further injury.
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