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  1. nicksaviking's Avatar
    This is MLB not the NFL, I don't think championship rings mean a whole lot to the voters, but even if they do, he's on a contending team now.

    I've made this arguement before, I think Nathan will end up getting in after some Blylevenian wait and SABR debate. I think he'll get in due to his dominance during his peak years.

    Considering the innings pitched, closers generally don't produce a ton of WAR. I know, WAR sucks, blah blah, but considering how few variables there are for a closer, it actually matches up well for this position. A 2.0 WAR is a pretty good season for a closer. Joe Nathan is in the middle of what looks to be his 6th 2.8 WAR season.

    Mariano Rivera is far and away the best closer ever, but HOF'ers Rollie Fingers and Dennis Eckersly have a total of four 2.8 WAR years. Combined. Trevor Hoffman only had 3. The aforementioned Billy Wagner had 3.

    Other contemporary top closers Jonathan Paplebon, Francisco Cordero, Francisco Rodriguez and Jose Valverde have six years with a 2.8 WAR. Combined.

    This of course this isn't an end all be all arguement but I think it shows how much more dominant Nathan was than his contemporaries save Rivera. He'll likely still need to pitch well a couple more years to pad his stats, as HOF voters like traditional stats too, but only 14 more saves from the top 10 is a big number. I think 72 more saves to get to 400 would be hard to argue against and barring a complete nose dive in 2014, I think he's a shoe in to get there in 2015. 4th all time in saves is well within the realm of possibility.
  2. Collin Kottke's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse
    Nathan has had a great career, but not a HOF career. Maybe if there was a few WS rings on his fingers, but that has not happened so far.
    I'm afraid you're so right. Funny how those little rings can amount to so much.
  3. old nurse's Avatar
    Nathan has had a great career, but not a HOF career. Maybe if there was a few WS rings on his fingers, but that has not happened so far.
  4. Collin Kottke's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darin617
    But how much is he worth when he no longer catches in a few years? He will not be a HOFer if he has to switch positions full time
    I think Mauer still makes the Hall of Fame if he has to switch from catcher to first base full time in the future. He won multiple batting titles as a catcher and was great defensively. He built up enough merit in my opinion.
  5. darin617's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dog Dungan
    I actually used this same argument when a Bleacher Report writer said Mauer wasn't worth the 23 million he is being paid.
    But how much is he worth when he no longer catches in a few years? He will not be a HOFer if he has to switch positions full time. Why don't you think Baltimore is being hesitant to give Matt Wieters an extension?
  6. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    I actually used this same argument when a Bleacher Report writer said Mauer wasn't worth the 23 million he is being paid.
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