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  1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Note: I will link to all parts of this series with the final 1-5 grouping.
  2. Thrylos's Avatar
    Seth, we are talking about different things

    you are giving me the scouting stuff (upside, velocity, comparables) "soft" evidence in my book.
    and
    I am saying that the guy did it and has done it better than the other 2. Look at the numbers. "hard evidence" in my book

    He is topping out higher than Dickey right now, correct?
  3. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    I am a big fan of Anthony Slama and I want him to get a shot, but I think that Thielbar has the best chance of being successful in the big leagues than Slama. And Pressly certainly has more upside. Slama's topping out at about 87 right now. Thielbar has been compared to me by people who have seen him to Glen Perkins out of the bullpen.
  4. Thrylos's Avatar
    So, in other words, is Anthony Slama a worse bet to be more effective in the majors that (let's say) Ryan Pressly or Caleb Thielbar based on what the 3 has shown in the minors?

    (I don't think so, btw)
  5. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    By definition for my prospect lists, yes. Will he be in my Top 50? Probably not.
  6. Thrylos's Avatar
    ok, guys (Seth and Shane) :

    Is Slama a prospect?
    He fits both of your criteria as time (not) spent in the majors. And he has actually pretty darn spiffy results better than a lot of the high ranked relievers in the high minors...
  7. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    Achter out of the bullpen is actually rather intriguing. He throws in the mid-90s now and has a very good second pitch.

    My definition of "Prospect" is anyone who is eligible to be rookie of the year. So, by that definition, Colabello is a prospect in my mind, that maybe not in the top 50.
  8. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Williams is not going to be a closer. Anyway, I am basing it on Achter's dominant statistics this year, including at Fort Myers.
  9. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
    Don't understand how Achter can be in front of Williams. Williams was a much higher draft choice and is actually age appropriate for his league. I know a lot have suggested Williams as the future closer, the ultimate goal for relief prospects. Plus, left handed pitchers are valued quite a bit higher than right handed ones.
  10. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
    You are underrating Pedro Hernandez by a mile. He has a good track record, left handed starter, and is young for AAA with a far better chance to make the major leagues than most of the people ahead of him. More like 30s. You have Tim Shibuya higher than Hernandez when Hernandez is on the fringe of making the show and Shibuya is buried in A ball. Both are the same age.
  11. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    I think of prospects being eligible as prospects if they haven't reached the majors or have spent less than 1/3 of a season there. I also wanted to put him somewhere on the list for comparison's sake.
  12. Thrylos's Avatar
    Hard to think of Colabello as a prospect at the ripe age of 29.5 starting the season... He is just a minor leaguer at this point, like the other 30 somethings there. Not that he is not good. He might actually end up as the Twins' 1B this season or next if things fall his way. But a prospect he is not
  13. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    By the way, odds that the Watts video poster is his wife/girlfriend, sister, or . . . mother?
  14. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Not to be a downer, but if you are going to include "never" for the arrival date for some of these prospects, you might as well put it on all of them. Because it is never a guarantee that any of them will make the majors.
  15. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Grimes is CATCHING, Seth!? Wow. That would change things if he can even put up marginally better numbers than he did in 2012. That will be interesting to watch.

    I am going to be a bit low on relief pitchers . . .

    And Guerra passed through waivers as thrylos says.
  16. Thrylos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by h2oface
    I could be wrong, since no one else has mentioned it..... but I think that Deolis Guerra is out of options. If he doesn't make the Twins bullpen, I believe he has to pass through waivers for the Twins to keep him and for him to start in Rochester.
    Guerra did pass through waivers with nobody claiming him and he was outrighted to AAA. He is not on the 40-man roster any more.
  17. h2oface's Avatar
    I could be wrong, since no one else has mentioned it..... but I think that Deolis Guerra is out of options. If he doesn't make the Twins bullpen, I believe he has to pass through waivers for the Twins to keep him and for him to start in Rochester.
  18. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    Grimes was moved to Catcher during Instructs.

    Duffey was unbelievable, and we'll see how things go going forward. HE was a 5th round pick. Chargois was a 2nd round pick. He was also hurt, so we didn't see what he could be. Can't really make anything from College pitchers dominating in E-Town. But I do like all those arms that the Twins drafted in 2012!
  19. lightfoot789's Avatar
    Tyler Duffy is argueably the 2nd or 3rd best pitcher from the Twins 2012 draft. His stats were awesome and he showed very little flaws. Should be in the Top 25 - No Doubt! I thought he was better than his Rice college teammate JT Chargois. Never saw him rattled. Great SU man moving forward. 2 Walks (BB) is my kind of relief guy.
  20. Waverley Wildcat's Avatar
    Maybe I am too far away to give a valid comment but all the talk about Sano I find interesting, over the past 2 seasons he has played at 5 & 6 level MLB leagues. his stats show raw power at that level of pitching with many home runs but having a closer look his contact % is not good with more Ks than hits, also he has made some 70 odd errors so where do you hide him? As the competition gets harder, will he get better?
    Updated 12-31-2012 at 08:17 PM by Waverley Wildcat
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