Originally Posted by lightfoot789 Other candidates: Josh Burris - 7-0 this season with a sub 2.00 ERA (Elizabethton) - Most wins in Appy League. Killer curve and mid 90+FB -- Solid as a middle reliever. Matt Tomshaw - (Beloit) - Lefty who knows how to pitch and can eat up innings. Pitch to contact guy. Candido Pimentel - Appy League MVP (small stature, but just gets on base) - small ball guy Burris was a big consideration, but he was a little low in the system and about age average for E-Town. By the time i get to around 45-50 it gets filled with "guys I like" that don't get too much attention. He would probably beat Wickens and a few others on someone else's rankings. Pimental wasn't toolsy enough and his age wasn't appropriate for Elizabethton. His one year wonder success this season was also a concern that cost Daniel Ortiz quite a few spots. Tomshaw isn't a strikeout artist and is pretty old for his league. The worst I feel about is Hauser as shanewahl wrote since I neglected his good track record and brief minor league career. He's probably a 40-50 player.
Originally Posted by Shane Wahl Why drop Matt Hauser? I thought he was too old. He's 24, but he did start at 22 so I probably should have cut him a little more slack. I mean I did include Pugh.
Why drop Matt Hauser?
I believe that Benson should be lower at least until he shows he can adjust next year. Maybe move everyone else until Hermsen up a spot. Top end looks solid, but still most are 2 years away. This is better than last year however for a positive note.
Other candidates: Josh Burris - 7-0 this season with a sub 2.00 ERA (Elizabethton) - Most wins in Appy League. Killer curve and mid 90+FB -- Solid as a middle reliever. Matt Tomshaw - (Beloit) - Lefty who knows how to pitch and can eat up innings. Pitch to contact guy. Candido Pimentel - Appy League MVP (small stature, but just gets on base) - small ball guy
Good catch. I should have had him.
Goodrum and Michael at 21 and 22, respectively, but no love at all for the just-turned 19 Jorge Polanco?
I think that this is a visionary idea that will probably never be seriously considered by the Twins. On the other hand, I love watching Revere play in the outfield.
At least we know he won't need a cutoff man to turn a double play from 2B... Then we would not have to hear any more noodle arm comments again.
Why in god^&&&()%&(*^%(*^%(&^%(*^%(*^%(&^%*&%#%$#@(&^ would the Twins switch one of the best fielding and contact hitters/outfielders in the game to 2B?
edit, perceived OF talent in the minors
This was brought up a couple of years ago in relation to arm strength and twins depth of outfield talent. Maybe BYTO? But I've heard this before. Although Revere is outperforming any expectations this year and makes Span a commodity
If I know the Twins Organization correctly... If the 2B conversion is to happen, it would probably mean Revere being sent down to AA next year to learn the position and spending most of 2014 in AAA perfecting 2B. It is probably a pipe dream. I can see FDG's proposition more realistically working out. Neither of which I see as feasible outcomes. In a perfect world it would be nice though.
Why not Joe Mauer? Could be the highest paid 2B in all of baseball.
DeVries has no chance of staying on the 40.
Sometimes you get lucky and your guys hang around for additional seasons (Waldrop, DeVries). It all depends on the money. Most veteran minor league guys can make $50-60,000. The Twins look pettygood to go after 25-30 guys again, with pretty much all of Rochester disappearing.
After more thought: Blackburn, Devries, Walters, Florimon, Butera, and Casilla should all be new open spots too. I was really thinking about Butera with Herrmann incoming, yet I couldn't see him go. Maybe they finally move on. This is more wishful thinking than what I had been expecting in the original blog post. Overall I'd be content with this. I'll take the original word on Bromberg. Pitchers: Baker, Burnett, Burton, Deduno, Diamond, Duensing, Fien, Gibson, Hendriks, Hermsen, Hernandez, Oliveros, Perdomo, Perkins, Pugh, Robertson, and Swarzak 17 Pitchers Position: Doumit, Herrmann, Mauer, Carroll, Dozier, Escobar, Morneau, Parmelee, Plouffe, Arcia, Benson, Hicks, Mastroianni, Revere, Span, Willingham 16 Players That's a total of 33 spots. 7 Free Spots for 2 SP Free Agents, two bullpen arms (One LHP and one RHP), and 1 middle infield FA would put the Twins at a comfortable 38. 15 players were dumped in this process and 9 were added. I think this makes it look a lot better and it really goes to show it is a mess! Fien and Perdomo are big question marks, but I feel like they have earned their spots for now. I'm feeling maybe Slama, Bromberg, and Thielbar could all vie for spot later in the 2013 season, but not the offseason. Great discussion and I definitely learned quite a bit from conversing and have a better idea of the 40 man for next year as well. NOW what would be really interesting would be to track down the approximate payroll for this situation and see how much money can be dispensed on free agents.
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if DeVries is dropped, and depending on how he returns, Walters. Both getting resigned as minor league free agents, if hey wish. Players like that will be on the bubble. Twins have to decide on Baker and Casilla, and would they keep Manship and, say, let Swarzak walk. Deduno is an interesting guy...a few more starts. And I wouldn't consider Florimon a given........or Butera, if you have to add another catcher. The question is, will the guys then jump ship, rather than stay and give the Twins depth in the minors........And Bromberg and Slama. Really, when you look at the Rule 5 guys and the minor free agents, there isn't much that need protecting.....or that other teams will sweep in and grab.
Originally Posted by Seth Stohs Just an FYI - Bromberg was sent down to New Britain today. Rule 5 qualifications for this postseason... Players signed who were less than 19 years old when they signed in 2008, OR Players signed who were 19 years old or older when they signed in 2009. I dont' think that Slama will be added. He's been made available several times (via Rule 5 draft or when he was taken off 40 man roster last fall) and no one has claimed him. He still has another year of Twins control. Of course, I believe Slama should be added to the 40 man roster for September, so the question would be whether or not they would keep him on it after the season. Yeah I looked at the rules more closely and saw it was 5 years if they were 18 years old and 4 if they were 19 or older when signed. Right here's not really a good place to discuss it, but I'd really like to know why he was demoted.
Originally Posted by YourHouseIsMyHouse Thanks for the post and I may be a little higher on Bromberg than I should be. Personally, I'd give him a shot to make the majors next year if he continues to finish strong in ROC. Herrmann and Slama were two big ones I overlooked and I thought Hermsen was another year away from having to be added (5 years of minor league ownership before Rule 5 qualification?). It must be four if you're also including Santana and Tonkin as well. Maybe I'm wrong. I would be surprised if Santana and Tonkin were added because they aren't very high upside guys and both are still in A+. Pugh and Watts could both be good internal bullpen options, but I'd lean more towards Pugh. Overall I like Pugh, Herrmann, Hermsen, Thielbar, and Slama as additions. That's over 40 though. Just goes to show how competitive players will have to be to earn a spot. Just an FYI - Bromberg was sent down to New Britain today. Rule 5 qualifications for this postseason... Players signed who were less than 19 years old when they signed in 2008, OR Players signed who were 19 years old or older when they signed in 2009. I dont' think that Slama will be added. He's been made available several times (via Rule 5 draft or when he was taken off 40 man roster last fall) and no one has claimed him. He still has another year of Twins control. Of course, I believe Slama should be added to the 40 man roster for September, so the question would be whether or not they would keep him on it after the season.