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  1. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    Thank you, Brad, for a very interesting article on a very strange stat.
    Get some rest.
  2. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Nice article. That was good and I shared the info on Facebook for peeps. That's pretty rare for me to do that from something around here.
  3. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    That's just sound strategy.
  4. gil4's Avatar
    My first guesses were Baker or Pavano (the elbow looks either old or injured) but the glove brand didn't match either one.

    I'm waiting for a double points special so I can get twice as much of the nothing I could normally get.
  5. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Thank you! However, gil4 is correct. A billion points to you! Save those points.

    Still photos of pitchers throwing are crazy. His elbow is not in a natural position.
  6. Twins Fan From Afar's Avatar
    Great, great post. Is that the girthy body of Matt Capps on the Fein card??
  7. gil4's Avatar
    Nick Blackburn?
  8. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    I can't lie, I've thought about going and buying another pack at least a few times since yesterday.

    Nope, not Slowey, but you're on the right track.
  9. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    I think the Profar card is airbrushed a bit to make it flashier?? After all, it a Topps RC
  10. mnfanforlife's Avatar
    hahaha! I love baseball cards... hilarious Fein card. Imagine that showing up in a pack of Topps...Kevin Slowey the body?
  11. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Thanks for all the positive feedback on the post. I think it will be really interesting to follow these teams over the next 2-3 years. I'm very willing to revisit at the end of this season, going into next season and for as long as people want to read about them! I do agree that the teams that stick with a Front Office are more likely to achieve success, if the original plan is sound. Owners that get impatient often make moves with the Front Office too early and that can make things worse.
  12. johnnydakota's Avatar
    Very nice article Brad, it would be interesting to follow up the next 2 or 3 years, also mentioned is which bottom teams made changes in the front office and management and which didnt and how they fare
  13. Jim H's Avatar
    I enjoyed this article. Good writing. There are clearly more than one way to rebuild and all plans have risks. It is not like Kansas City and Pittsburgh were trying to be bad for 2 decades. For all the respect Tampa Bay gets, they were bad for a good long while. They also are bit short of good position players right now, which might undermine their good pitching.

    I think the key is to hire a good GM and then give him enough time to actually implement a plan. Many franchises(owners) get impatient and after a few years, dump whoever they put in charge and start over. I don't know how many GM's Kansas City has gone thru, but you can see the results. They may of screwed up their current rebuild by getting impatient again.

    The Cubs have been largely bad for much longer than 20 years. They have had money to work with, and sometimes they have been decent for a few years. But they should of had some periods of long term success like most wealthy franchises have. I think that good management is even more crucial in baseball than other major sports. In basketball, one player can turn your franchise around. In football, a good quarterback and couple of good drafts can make you a Superbowl contender. In baseball, the developmental time for prospects is so long and you need so many that it is easy for things to go wrong, even with good management.
  14. jorgenswest's Avatar
    Within the last year the Astros have hired Mike Fast and Kevin Goldstein. After trying to retool for years, they are all in on the rebuild.

    In that year the farm system has gone from 27th to 4th in Keith Law's rankings.

    They will be awful this year and likely next. They may also go from awful to good in 2015 skipping mediocre entirely.
  15. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    And you know what, even O'Dowd got his team to a World Series, so he certainly deserves some level of respect.
  16. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    I love it! A baseball case study. Each of these teams had some level of success in the mid-2000s. I completely agree that intelligent decision-makers lead to quicker rebuilds. It seems that 4 of the 5 teams I investigated have well-respected GMs and good front offices. Not surprisingly, the one GM that doesn't seem to get much respect (O'Dowd) is the leader of the team with the worst (lack of a) plan.

    This is also why I think the Twins will get things turned around. I am one who has a lot of trust in and respect for Terry Ryan.
  17. LastOnePicked's Avatar
    Excellent post. I wonder if you could factor in any change in coaching or GM positions. I'm also hoping that you'll write a follow up after the season to evaluate each approach, and perhaps look again in 2014. While each team needs a little luck, I'm willing to bet that the most successful rebuilds will be the result of smart work at the helm.
  18. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    The Astros farm system could improve a lot, much like the Twins' system improved this past year. They have a lot of high ceiling players.
  19. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs
    The Twins are not just (and shouldn't) give away Morneau or Willingham, and from all I've heard, they were offered very, very little for them.
    I totally get that. I just hope they don't hesitate if they are offered something good.
  20. beckmt's Avatar
    Twins with no pitching and Astro's with no farm system and a bad major league club have the furthest to go. Indians may be good this year with their moves and Cubs have a ways to go, Colorado is a mystery and may need a complete overhall.
    4 of these will probably be on the bottom again this year.
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