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  1. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by spycake
    Just looking at your first example, Viola started 22 games and pitched 126 innings for his -0.1 WAR. Extrapolate Gibson's -0.8 WAR from his 10 starts and he's quite a bit worse.

    Actually all of your pitching examples have this problem. Looking at ERA+ would be better, and Gibson is notably worse than all of them (although to be fair he had fewer starts/innings than everyone except Garza). The only way to excuse it is the injury and small sample size.

    Hicks fares a bit better in these comparisons. Although I do note that all of your comparables had much lower K rates, both as rookies and through their minor league careers.
    It's also possible that Gibson would have improved if given more starts. I agree, ERA+ would have been a better measure for the pitchers. I just chose WAR so I could use it for all ten guys.

    For the sake of completeness:

    Gibson: 63
    Viola: 82
    Santana: 80
    Garza: 78
    Lohse: 80
  2. spycake's Avatar
    Just looking at your first example, Viola started 22 games and pitched 126 innings for his -0.1 WAR. Extrapolate Gibson's -0.8 WAR from his 10 starts and he's quite a bit worse.

    Actually all of your pitching examples have this problem. Looking at ERA+ would be better, and Gibson is notably worse than all of them (although to be fair he had fewer starts/innings than everyone except Garza). The only way to excuse it is the injury and small sample size.

    Hicks fares a bit better in these comparisons. Although I do note that all of your comparables had much lower K rates, both as rookies and through their minor league careers.
  3. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking
    I disliked John Moses and did so vehemently. Mostly it was unfounded as it was because he simply replaced Tom Brunansky in RF when Bruno was traded for the human puddle of vomit. Side note, I also disliked the human puddle of vomit. I loved Bruno and no one was going to replace him, I would have felt better if the team had run only eight defenders out each inning and just asked Puckett and Gladden to cover the entire outfield.

    I did enjoy one thing about Moses; he was the first position player that I remember coming in to pitch in a blowout. It wasn't a new practice but it was novel to me. The Twins actually asked him to pitch three times, though Cuddyer, Butera and Carroll laugh at his 9.00 career ERA.
    It's fun to hear about other people's most irrationally hated Twins. Mine was Bob Wells. I despised Bob Wells. I'm not even sure why. He was just a middle reliever, but I loathed him. I would get physically uncomfortable when he entered a game.
  4. Pius Jefferson's Avatar
    Unfortunately, this was the only famous Brad Swanson.
    That beats having the same name of a pedophile/ serial killer.
  5. spycake's Avatar
    I too distinctly remember Moses pitching, probably my earliest Twins radio memory in 1990 (probably the July game that year).
  6. nicksaviking's Avatar
    I disliked John Moses and did so vehemently. Mostly it was unfounded as it was because he simply replaced Tom Brunansky in RF when Bruno was traded for the human puddle of vomit. Side note, I also disliked the human puddle of vomit. I loved Bruno and no one was going to replace him, I would have felt better if the team had run only eight defenders out each inning and just asked Puckett and Gladden to cover the entire outfield.

    I did enjoy one thing about Moses; he was the first position player that I remember coming in to pitch in a blowout. It wasn't a new practice but it was novel to me. The Twins actually asked him to pitch three times, though Cuddyer, Butera and Carroll laugh at his 9.00 career ERA.
  7. gil4's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gernzy
    No trade pissed me off more then this one...

    Don't know how long it will take me to get over this one...
    You read my mind - if I was going to write something about the trade, those two lines would have been part of it. I'm not sure when I'll get over it, but we aren't even close to it right now.
  8. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief
    Awful trade. It's not even accurate to say Hardy didn't have a good season for the Twins. He was hurt in the first half, but when healthy he had a fine second half (.304/.363/.442) and was a primary factor in the teams second half surge. Probably the single worst thing Smith did as GM.
    Oh yeah, he definitely was not bad. I could see where some would have been disappointed with his injury and lack of home run power, but those things would have evened out (and did).
  9. Willihammer's Avatar
    Uehara was only good as an MLB pitcher, not good as a class A pitcher. So, it just depends on which league you value more.
    Great line.
  10. USAFChief's Avatar
    Awful trade. It's not even accurate to say Hardy didn't have a good season for the Twins. He was hurt in the first half, but when healthy he had a fine second half (.304/.363/.442) and was a primary factor in the teams second half surge. Probably the single worst thing Smith did as GM.
  11. Gernzy's Avatar
    No trade pissed me off more then this one. When I first heard we were thinking about trading Hardy U thought they were crazy. His 2010 wasn't even that bad. He was the SS we had been looking for for a long time. And we gave him away for nothing! Hoey was a massive bust. SS is our weakest spot, and the guy we had is killing it in Baltimore.

    Don't know how long it will take me to get over this one...
  12. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hosken Bombo Disco
    What do you suppose is Bruno's WAR as a hitting coach?
    It's pretty low, but Dozier's emergence these past couple months gives it a slight boost. Let's say 2.0. Solid, but he'll need to build on it to be part of the long-term plans.
  13. Hosken Bombo Disco's Avatar
    Here are the top 10 second-year players in Twins history, sorted by rWAR:


    1. Tom Brunansky - 5.6 WAR
    2. Chuck Knoblauch - 5.3 WAR
    3. Lew Ford - 4.4 WAR
    What do you suppose is Bruno's WAR as a hitting coach?
  14. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by gil4
    The Twins were in a spot where they should have either insisted upon an overwhelming return or kept him for another year. At the time of the trade it was a letdown because the return was far less than the rumors. Bill Smith blinked.
    100% agree. It was senseless timing.
  15. gil4's Avatar
    You will never convince me that having Santana on that 2008 team wouldn't have added at least one win to the Twins' total. Never!
    The Twins were in a spot where they should have either insisted upon an overwhelming return or kept him for another year. At the time of the trade it was a letdown because the return was far less than the rumors. Bill Smith blinked.
  16. Pius Jefferson's Avatar
    That entire off-season was a nightmare.

    They twins lost Garza, Hunter, Santana, and during the season Castillo and got next to nothing of value in return.
  17. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Not totally sure, but I found this on Wikipedia:

    Pontoon (boat) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  18. Winston Smith's Avatar
    What's a platoon?
  19. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgoat_MN
    Brad, you are amazing.

    I especially like the way you ask yourself a question and start the answer with, "Good question!".

    I laughed out loud. A fun read.
    Haha, thank you! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it!
  20. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    Brad, you are amazing.

    I especially like the way you ask yourself a question and start the answer with, "Good question!".

    I laughed out loud. A fun read.
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