• Why do Twins fans boo Derek Jeter??



    Last night, in Game 1 of the ALCS, the New York Yankees lost an extra-inning game to Delmon Young and the Detroit Tigers. More important, they lost their captain Derek Jeter for the rest of the season because of a broken ankle. The news is devastating considering he is one Yankees hitter who is actually hitting. Alex Rodriguez is taking all of the heat, but Robinson Cano, Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson and others are doing very little.


    The news is devastating to the Yankees and fans of the Yankees. It also is disappointing to fans who just want to watch greatness.

    The Yankees will go on, and they may even be able to win the ALCS and even the World Series. But to pretend that losing Jeter and replacing him with Jayson Nix at shortstop is anything but devastating is just not understanding. As Toronto Star columnist Richard Griffin tweeted on Sunday, “Jeter is to Nix as gift basket+limo is to Skittles+subway token.”

    It got me thinking again about what of the most perplexing things about some Twins fans. Why does Derek Jeter get booed so loudly when he comes to Minnesota??

    I’m going to try to answer that question, or at least propose some ideas. Maybe you have more? Feel free to voice them in the Comments.

    “He’s Overrated”


    OK, we used to hear that one all the time, but when you can make a case that he is the greatest shortstop of all time, it kind of stops meaning much. The only shortstop in big league history that I think is probably a little bit better than Captain Clutch is Honus Wager, and his final season was in 1917. I think an argument could be made for the baseball of today being a little better than that of a century ago.

    Of those playing in the last few decades, there simply aren’t many to compare Jeter to. Alex Rodriguez and Nomar Garciaparra joined Jeter as AL shortstop beasts for a while, but Jeter has far outlasted them. Garciaparra struggled with injuries before retiring several years ago. Rodriguez moved to 3B when he joined the Yankees. While Jeter has played 2,585 games at the position, A-Rod has played just 1,272 games there.

    Similarly, Hall of Famer Robin Yount played 1,479 games at shortstop before moving to the outfield when he played over 1,200 games. Ernie Banks played just 1,125 games at shortstop and 1,259 games at first base. Of course, Jeter’s career OPS (to this point) is .829, and Yount’s was .772 while Banks’ was at .830.

    Cal Ripken is the one that we can compare Jeter to as he played over 2,300 games at shortstop before finishing his career with another 675 games at the hot corner.



    Name Games H/AB BA/OBP/SLG (OPS) 2B/3B/HR RBI/Runs
    Derek Jeter 2,585 3,304/10,551 .313/.382/.448 (.829) 524/65/255 1,254/1,868 398 SB
    Honus Wagner 2,794 3,420/10,439 .328/.391/.467 (.858) 643/252/101 1,475/1,739 723 SB
    Cal Ripken 3,001 3,184/11,551 .276/.340/.447 (.788) 603/44/431 1,695/1,647
    Alex Rodriguez 2,524 2,901/9,662 .300/.384/.560 (.945) 512/30/647 1,950/1,898
    Robin Yount 2,856 3,142/11,008 .285/.342/.430 (.772) 583/126/251 1,406/1,632 271 SB
    Ernie Banks 2,528 2,538/9,421 .274/.330/.500 (.830) 407/90/512 1,636/1,305


    “Because he’s a Yankee”


    Jeter grew up in Kalamazoo, Michigan and graduated from high school in 1992. With the 6th overall pick in that draft, the New York Yankees drafted him. He became a top prospect and was up with the team by September of 1995. He became a star, and like so many others throughout history, he has stayed with the same team. Kirby Puckett stayed with the Twins his whole career. Cal Ripken is synonymous with the Baltimore Orioles. The all-time great Yankees throughout history like Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Joe Dimaggio, Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra all stayed with the team their whole career. Derek Jeter is a lifelong New York Yankee, and that’s the way it should be.

    If you don’t like the Yankees because they spend so much money, well, I guess that’s cool. Lots of fans don’t, and that’s fine. But, Derek Jeter has nothing to do with those decisions.

    “He’s a Winner”


    In most places in society, that is considered a good thing, isn’t it? Has he been the sole reason for the five World Series championships (and two other World Series teams) that the Yankees have had in his career? Of course not, but no winning team has just one great player. Has he been a big part of those championships? Without question.

    Jeter has essentially played an extra season in his career, in the playoffs. He has played 158 playoff games and hit .308/.374/.465 (.838) with 32 doubles, five triples, 20 home runs, 61 RBI and 111 runs scored. (By the way, in case anyone is wondering, those numbers are not included in his career numbers listed above.)

    In the World Series, Jeter has been just as good. He has hit .321/.384/.449 (.832) in 58 games.

    “The Media Loves Him”


    Yup… and I can’t blame them. He’s great in interviews. He’s always been and shown tremendous class. He talks during good and bad times.

    It’s like the Brett Favre situation, or Duke basketball. Since Tim Tebow was added to the New York Jets this past summer, they certainly fit into this category too.

    I’m not sure what people want in these scenarios. What do people want Tim Tebow to do? Not be himself? Do they want him to become a jerk? Same thing with Jeter. Is he supposed to not act classy? Should he try to get in trouble with the law? He isn’t asking for all the extra attention, and he shouldn’t have to ask that people stop loving him the way they do. He’s put himself into the upper echelon of elite baseball players of all time, and he has handled it with class since day one. As a fan, that’s pretty impressive. As a parent, I would think he would be quite the role model for kids.

    He has even won the Roberto Clemente Award for community service.

    “He Dates Women that We Dream About”


    Mariah Carey. Jordana Brewster. Vanessa Minnillo. Miss Universe (Lara Dutta). Scarlett Johansson. Jessica Biel. Jessica Alba. Minka Kelly.

    Yup. He does. But let’s be honest here. If they weren’t dating Derek Jeter, they probably still would not have been dating you either.

    “If we boo him, it will distract him!”


    One of the things I’ll never understand is why home fans boo when the opposing pitcher throws over to first base on a pick-off attempt. It’s part of the game! I’ve been told that some fans do that in an attempt to distract the pitcher, and sometimes they take credit for a pitcher throwing wildly. The pitcher wasn’t distracted by the booing. He just threw wildly.

    Maybe there are some Twins fans who think that booing Jeter distracts him from hitting. Well, in 52 games at the Metrodome, he posted a .779 OPS, and in ten games so far at Target Field, his OPS is .778. So, it’s not working. Overall against the Twins, he is hitting (in 125 games) .323/.388/.470 (.857) with 32 doubles, two triples, 13 homers and 57 RBI. So yes, he is better at Yankees Stadium than he is when hitting in Minnesota, but I would venture to guess that is not unusual.

    “The Twins Can’t Develop a Shortstop”


    Since Derek Jeter took over as the Yankees shortstop at the start of the 1996 season, the Twins have used 31 players at shortstop. It may not be all that impressive, but I think we can all admit that it isn’t Jeter’s fault. In fact, the #1 on this list came to the Twins because he was never going to get a shot with the Yankees. This is a fun list to review, if only to remember some futility.

    Cristian Guzman (833), Pat Meares (433), Jason Bartlett (310), Nick Punto (248), Denny Hocking (243), Juan Castro (123), Brendan Harris (122), JJ Hardy (100), Brian Dozier (83), Alexi Casilla (77), Tsuyoshi Nishioka (60), Trevor Plouffe (55), Matt Tolbert (51), Adam Everett (44), Pedro Florimon (43), Jamey Carroll (37), Jeff Reboulet (37), Chris Gomez (17), Jason Maxwell (17), Luis Rodriguez (12), Luis Rivas (8), Augie Ojeda (7), Eduardo Escobar (6), Ariel Prieto (4), Cleatus Davidson (4), David Lamb (4), Brent Gates (2), Dave Hollins (1), Chuck Knoblauch (1), Jon Shave (1), Tommy Watkins (1).

    “He shouldn’t have won (those FIVE) Gold Gloves”


    You’re probably right, but he’s certainly not the only player to win a Gold Glove because of his offense. That happens all the time. Twins fans likely still remember when Rafael Palmiero won a Gold Glove at 1B despite playing just 17 games at first base (And the rest as a DH) while Doug Mientkiewicz was making all the plays with his first baseman’s mitt. He doesn’t have much range, but it’s not like Jeter is a butcher at shortstop.

    Jeter was also the 1996 AL Rookie of the Year. He has played in 13 All Star games. He won four Silver Slugger Awards. In 2006 and 2009, he was the Hank Aaron Award winner as the top hitter in the league. Three times he has finished in the Top 3 in the league in AL MVP voting. In fact, many very wise baseball people made the strong argument that Jeter, and not the Twins Justin Morneau, should have won the 2006 award.


    So, as Derek Jeter’s 2012 playoff runs comes to an end, I can’t help but ask, “Why do Twins fans boo Derek Jeter?” Why?
    This article was originally published in blog: Why do Twins fans boo Derek Jeter?? started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 49 Comments
    1. sorney's Avatar
      sorney -
      As stated above....pretty simple. He is the face of the most hated team , so he gets booed. Comes with the territory.
    1. Rick Blaine's Avatar
      Rick Blaine -
      Because he is a Yankee. He may be one of the least annoying of the Yankees-- but he is still a Yankee. Any other team-- it would be a different story. On another note-- I am just loving watching A-Rod struggle
    1. JB_Iowa's Avatar
      JB_Iowa -
      Generally I boo the Yankees not specific players. I've never been really inclined to boo Jeter. And at least he has had the good sense not to get married and then continue to date all the women (and others) listed above. (But the gift baskets of memorabilia are somewhat disgusting to me).

      I do boo Alex Rodriguez apart from my general Yankee booing. Atlhough this post-season even that is toned down by his generally miserable appearance and performance.
    1. ericchri's Avatar
      ericchri -
      I think a better question might be, "do you boo any specific players on the Yankees more than others?" Cause asking why Twins fans boo anyone from the Yankees seems silly.

      I've never been to a Yankees game honestly, are the boos for Jeter really that much worse than anyone else? I would assume that almost always being the leadoff hitter is a contributing factor, as he'd then be the first candidate to bear the boos meant for the Yankees in general.
    1. Twins Twerp's Avatar
      Twins Twerp -
      Because he is a(an) Yankee, duh. And he is a man/slut. He has slept with more women than Wilt Chamberlain
    1. PopRiveter's Avatar
      PopRiveter -
      Because I have no interest in watching him help the Yankees succeed and I've no interest in spending the night with him.

      He's a key cog in the worst machine baseball ever allowed.
    1. powrwrap's Avatar
      powrwrap -
      It got me thinking again about what of the most perplexing things about some Twins fans. Why does Derek Jeter get booed so loudly when he comes to Minnesota??
      Do Twins fans boo Derek Jeter at Target Field? How long have Twins fans been booing Derek Jeter?

      I ask because I was at a Yankees game last year, August 19th, and Jeter was not booed that night.
    1. Ex-Iowegian's Avatar
      Ex-Iowegian -
      Interesting question.
      I think it’s more of a frustration, as both a Twins fan, and a baseball fan, of not being on even playing field with the Yankees. Whatever the reasons.
      Booing Jeter doesn’t seem to me to be the right response. He has been able to keep his position and play relatively well throughout his career. Regardless of whether a guy is or is not the top at his position every year, to play for so many years creates statistical relevance.
      Now if you were able to put one of the Steinbrenners on the field…
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      3 reasons.
      1. I hate the Yankees. Jeter is their Cap'n. Makes sense.
      2. A little jealousy. Jeter is the guy in high school who is better than you at everything. Now do I believe that?....Yes, but he tries to be perfect, nobody is, and the media makes him out to be.
      3. Overrated. Jeter has never been the best player in the MLB in any season he's ever played. He's good, but people treat him like he's the best player of his generation and he's never been that dominant. Move him from SS where he's not that great defensively anyway and his offensive numbers are no where near as special
    1. mysonlikes7's Avatar
      mysonlikes7 -
      Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
      Simply put, I'm tired of hearing the media gush about him. It's hard not to hate a guy even if you do respect the guy as a great player if you try to watch any baseball coverage on tv, let's say on ESPN, that isn't a Yankees game, but yet they tie half their information in their coverage to Jeter or the Yankees. I would love to know the percentage of time ESPN spends talking about the Yankees and Red Sox compared to every other team combined. I was watching NFL network this morning before the games started and I had to sit through a Jeter segment. Do you know how annoying that is?
      Sounds like you have an issue with ESPN's coverage and you are taking it out on Jeter because you can't change the channel. Jeter is classy through and through. I know kids shouldn't look to athletes as role models, but Jeter would be near the top of my list for the way he conducts himself on and off the field. The majority of Twins fans boo Jeter for all of the reasons stated. He is a great player and a great team and the Twins fans wish he was on the Twins and they were as good as they Yankees. In my opinion, if you boo Jeter you are a Twins fan. If you don't boo him you are a baseball fan.
    1. edavis0308's Avatar
      edavis0308 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mysonlikes7 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
      Simply put, I'm tired of hearing the media gush about him. It's hard not to hate a guy even if you do respect the guy as a great player if you try to watch any baseball coverage on tv, let's say on ESPN, that isn't a Yankees game, but yet they tie half their information in their coverage to Jeter or the Yankees. I would love to know the percentage of time ESPN spends talking about the Yankees and Red Sox compared to every other team combined. I was watching NFL network this morning before the games started and I had to sit through a Jeter segment. Do you know how annoying that is?
      Sounds like you have an issue with ESPN's coverage and you are taking it out on Jeter because you can't change the channel. Jeter is classy through and through. I know kids shouldn't look to athletes as role models, but Jeter would be near the top of my list for the way he conducts himself on and off the field. The majority of Twins fans boo Jeter for all of the reasons stated. He is a great player and a great team and the Twins fans wish he was on the Twins and they were as good as they Yankees. In my opinion, if you boo Jeter you are a Twins fan. If you don't boo him you are a baseball fan.
      You're missing the point. I enjoy sporting news. I clearly stated that I had to sit through a Jeter segment on the NFL Network also. I do have a problem with media coverage of Jeter. Give us some more variety - appeal the baseball fans a bit more, not just the Yankees fans. Over half the people that claim to be Yankees fans probably couldn't even name you half their playoff roster.

      You can also think he has been classy through and through, but if you think that if he played for a small market team, hit free agency, and would be giving them a home town discount so he could stay with them his whole career, then you are crazy. This is the same guy that as a 39 year old will be making $17 million dollars to play a below average shortstop, which he got by essentially holding the Yankees hostage due to his 'face of the franchise' status. Maybe when Mauer is 35, he should do the same thing to play catcher for us. Figuring the rising rates of salaries, he should be able to ask for about $30 million to play catcher and be the face of the franchise for us for a few more years.

      For the record, I've never booed Jeter. I am simply answering the question as to why I think most people have such a disdain for the guy.
    1. jjswol's Avatar
      jjswol -
      I boo Jeter because he is the Yankees captain and I have hated the Yankees since I started following baseball back in 1957. I respect him as a very good player but I dislike what he and the Yankees represent. I buy my tickets and I can boo whom ever I wish. What are you saying Seth, we should not boo him because he is a good player and a sure Hall of Famer. Come on............
    1. Jim Crikket's Avatar
      Jim Crikket -
      You know what, Seth and the rest of the pro-Jeter writers are correct. We should all applaud Jeter because after all, our primary concern in determining whether we cheer or boo a player should be based on his character and whether he's got "class," rather than whether he plays for the Twins or the opponent, right?

      Oh, if we would only learn to pattern our own fan behavior after the home crowd at Yankee Stadium who, as we all know, consistently give warm ovations to the the likes of Joe Mauer and the star players of all visiting teams.

      Jeter's a F'ing Yankee. When his career is over, we can all wax poetic over what a wonderful human being he was during his playing days. Until then, he's the enemy. Period.
    1. MWLFan's Avatar
      MWLFan -
      The player that comes to mind for me when I think of Jeter is Joe Dimaggio.


      a. Yankee-Check

      b. dated Beautiful women- Check


      c. Adored by Yankee fans to levels that only stalkers and Packer fans reach-Check

      I think that when he retired Joe D called himself and was called the greatest living ballplayer by Yankee apologists at a time when Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, and Stan Musial were all still walking this earth. If memeory serves me right he dictated that was how he was to be introduced at Yankee Stadium for Old Timer games.

      There is always a extra bit of glow with wearing the Yankee uniform that may fade over time. I have seen it with Dimaggio, Reggie, Donnie Baseball, Guidry and others. I don't think Jeter will fall as far, but the glow may not be as bright in ten years as it is today. I don't even think Jeter was the most important member of that great group of players that the Yankees had for that period. I would have to give that to Rivera, Mariano and not Reuben. Most closers I think are overated, but not him.

      I do think he is a top 5 SS. A-Rod, Wagner, Jeter, Ripken, The Wizard, and Yount. If you discard A-Rod and Yount as playing too much at other positions, which I would not, then you have him,Wagner, and Ozzie. Of those I could live with Jeter being the best.

      I think the reason Twins fans and other fans boo Jeter is Yankee fans. Their idolizing of him has a strange, sickening and over zealous edge to it that borders on a mental illness. They had the same thing going on with Mattingly to a lesser extent and because of that Mattingly was over hyped.

      Give it a few years and check back on the Captain. Yes he has the rings and the offensive numbers, but a few years ago Cal Ripken was the greatest Shortstop ever according some scribes. You would think there would be greater Shortstops though.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      I don't boo him, but I am so oversatured with Yankee hype that I can't help but be annoyed by the guy. I'll acknowledge his talent, his guts, and his approach, but that doesn't overcome the rest. It's just too much of him and too much of that team.

      I think sometimes he's been vaulted into this transcendent level of play that he's not always worthy of. He's comparable to guys like Biggio and Yount - that's the level of player I think he is (a great player) but not this immortal giant of the game. That just sort of adds to my annoyance I think. Maybe it's because I was always such a big Biggio fan.
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by darin617 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
      He's the best player on the most hated team in MLB....pretty easy
      Just because he's booed doesnt mean he's not heavily respected just like booing doesnt have to mean hatred
      I guess this must go the same for AJ Pierzynski.
      Ive never thought that MN fans dont appreciate what AJ did here for 3 yrs.....but he's an arrogant player who takes onfield cheap shots for the Twins #1 rival. Not hard to figure out.
      Ive always personally hated Torii Hunter more as he left for nothing more than money (but claimed it wasnt) cause he was tired of MN.
      SO glad he never won anything with ANA
      At least someone else appreciated AJ during his time here. Also, no phony leg weakness or other crap from AJ he plays all the time. And by playing I mean playing catcher not hiding in the DH or playing 1ST.
    1. notoriousgod71's Avatar
      notoriousgod71 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden View Post
      As a fan who is sick and tired of the Jeter "mystic", let me say this: He is overrated. You may think it hard to say that a player with 3300 hits is overrated, but it is actually pretty simple:

      - He has played on a team that constantly has all-star players batting around him, which can only make his job that much easier.
      - At any given time, he was never considered the best current player at his position (Tejada, A-Rod, Nomar, Rollins, Ramirez).
      - He has only led the league in PA (5 times), AB (once), Runs (once) and hits (twice). Not exactly dominating numbers considering what he supposedly brings to the table.
      - Never an MVP
      - While he has 5 GG, every defensive metric under the sun shows him to be a sub-par to atrocious defender.
      - His biggest plus is that he rarely misses a game. Now that isn't a bad thing, but we don't have any problem destroying compiliers, why does Jeter get a pass in this area.

      Let's talk about Cap'n Jetes "ability" to lead a team:
      - Refused to even discuss moving from short when the team acquired A-Rod, though at the time A-Rod was a superior defensive player.
      - He plays the media to make himself look better. When A-Rod struggles, Jeter is mysteriously silent. But if others struggle, Jeter will publicly support them. He's done this to others as well.
      - Refused to discuss moving to the outfield, though it would make the team better. Yount, Biggio... Cabrera moved back to 3B this year to accomidate Fielder. Jeter just has to look to his right for somebody willing to sacrifice for the team.

      Many other things he gets credit for crack me up:
      - All-Star selections are meaningless. It's a popularity contest.
      - Yes, Derek Jeter dates "dream" women. So does virtually every other MLB player. Seriously, have you seen the wives of most of these guys? Also, do you suppose they all got the Derek Jeter date package left for them in the backseat of the car the morning after?

      Derek Jeter is an elitist, self-centered, egomaniac. I boo Derek Jeter because he is a Yankee and because I believe him to be overrated. If he played for the Royals his whole career, would you put him over George Brett? I wouldn't.

      The Jeter legend is driven solely by the media. Put him on a midwestern team and he becomes Craig Biggio. Not a bad player, just not a "greatest of all time"
      You forgot that announcers gush about how awesome he is in October but his postseason stats are essentially his career stats. Mark Lemke and Marquis Grissom, he is not.
    1. B Richard's Avatar
      B Richard -
      To quote Reggie Jackson, it's because "they don't boo nobodies." Derek Jeter is the captain, the iconic yankee. I respect the man immensely for how he conducts himself on and off the field. I boo him because he is the face of the Yankees, a franchise that has dealt my beloved Twins many devastating blows over the last decade. It's not personal- it's just the way it has to be.
    1. Paul Pleiss's Avatar
      Paul Pleiss -
      I'm not really a boo-er, but my hatred for all things Yankees gets the best of me, and to be fair, I don't just boo Jeter, I boo all of the Yankees. Jeter is the face of the franchise, I hate the Yankees, so by correlation I despise Jeter, not personally mind you, but as soon as he takes the field, he's just another cog in the Evil Empire
    1. ericchri's Avatar
      ericchri -
      I read through stuff like this and I always wonder, "do fans in other cities hate the Yankees as much as Twins fans do?" I mean, I know they hate the Yankees everywhere outside of New York in a general sense, but does the average fan hate them as much as the average Twins fan? Have our recent playoff (and really, regular season much of the time, too) failures against the Yankees caused our hatred of them to grow beyond the general "they're the Yankees, @#$% 'em" attitude of most fans?
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