• Twins Should Target Trevor Bauer

    If you want to think big this offseason, Trevor Bauer might be your guy.
    It's no secret that the Twins are looking for starting pitching. The free agent market is filled with plenty of intriguing arms but another way of accomplishing this task is to trade. There have been rumors of the Twins inquiring about a couple of different starting pitchers but a new name has emerged on the market.

    Word leaked out earlier this week about the Arizona Diamondbacks possibly being ready to shop top pitching prospect Trevor Bauer. It sounds like there is a division between Bauer and the D-Backs over his future with the club. Of course, it would take a lot to acquire a 21-year old pitcher with a ton of upside. If they are truly willing to shop Bauer, there will be plenty of interest from multiple club - for good reason.

    Bauer was the third pick of the 2011 amateur draft out of UCLA. During this past season, he made his debut with Arizona and was roughed up in his four appearances (6.06 ERA, 13BB in 16.1 IP) before being sent back to Triple-A. His numbers in the higher levels of the minor leagues have very good as he has a low 2.42 ERA and 157 strikeouts in 130 innings pitched. He made it to the big leagues in less than a year and still has plenty of potential.

    The one downside to Bauer looks like his command of the strike zone because he gave up 61 walks over his 130 minor league innings. In the cup of coffee in the majors, he averaged almost a walk an inning. This doesn't sound like the type of pitcher Terry Ryan and the Twins would target. Bauer doesn't fit the mold of soft throwing strike throwers but it could be time for Minnesota to go in a different direction.

    For Minnesota and Arizona, finding trade pieces could be tough for a couple of different reasons. The one area of surplus for the Twins is in the outfield and Arizona has enough outfielders that they are trying to trade away Justin Upton after already parting ways with Chris Young. This means the Twins could save Denard Span or Josh Willingham for a different trade but it also means the Twins would have to part with some top prospects.

    The results were not so good the last time the Twins traded a top prospect for pitching. Wilson Ramos looked to be ready to break-out at the major league level but the Twins sent him to Washington for Matt Capps. A trade with the D-Backs would take on a different light because Minnesota would be trading for a rising star in the pitching ranks and not a closer with mediocre stuff. This still leaves questions about what the Twins could send away from their prospect ranks.

    In my preliminary Twins prospect list for this offseason, there are some very good players at the top of the list. Would the Twins be willing to part with a couple of their top 10 prospects to get Bauer? How about a couple of players in the top 5? Which players would you say are untouchable?

    1. Miguel Sano, 3B (Age 19)
    2. Byron Buxton, OF (Age 18)
    3. Aaron Hicks, OF (Age 23)
    4. Oswaldo Arcia, OF (Age 21)
    5. Eddie Rosario, OF/2B (Age 21)
    6. Kyle Gibson, RHP (Age 25)
    7. Jose Berrios, RHP (Age 18)
    8. Travis Harrison, 3B (Age 20)
    9. Max Kepler, OF (Age 19)
    10. Joe Benson, OF (Age 24)

    It could take quite the haul to bring in Bauer and it's questionable how much the Twins should empty their farm system for the chance to acquire a young starting pitcher. The upside of Bauer is enough to get fans excited about the chance of him joining their organization this offseason. A deal might not be likely at this point but the right combination of prospects could make this trade a reality.

    If you were in Terry Ryan's GM chair, what would you offer? And would it be enough? Leave a COMMENT.
    This article was originally published in blog: Twins should target Trevor Bauer started by Cody Christie
    Comments 35 Comments
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinstalker View Post
      Yeah, Bauer commands Sano+. No? Then Arizona will take Bauer and easily trade him to a team with good hitting prospects. The Red Sox would easily part with Bogaerts to get Bauer. Cleveland would give up Lindor and anything else Arizona wants. Bauer has the value of a young Curt Schilling, circa 1993. We could get him, but Sano and Rosario would be the return. What they should do is see if Texas will give them Andrus and one of their good prospects like Rogned (sp). Their middle infield could be set for years.
      All of those are probably true.
    1. Fire Dan Gladden's Avatar
      Fire Dan Gladden -
      I think the posts here have hit it pretty much on the head. There is no denying that the kid has talent and is major league ready today. If half of the stories floating around about him are true, I wouldn't trade much value for him.

      The Twins track record with head cases speaks for itself. They either decide not to work with them (Ortiz, Lohse) or give them to much rope (Delmon). Part of the Twins way is conformity. This guy does not fit that bill. I can't see them making a move here (as much as he could help them).
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      Arizona could be interested in Span, correct? Gerado Parra isn't much of a player so I think that would be someplace we could move Denard. Arizona is my favorite NL team and if Span had to go anywhere I'd chose there. He could play alongside Kubes!

      This enough, too much, or too little?
      Span, Rosario, Harrison, Herrmann

      I'm really resilient on trading Hicks, but I LOVE Bauer's upside. If the prior wasn't enough, maybe this?

      Hicks, Rosario, Harrison, Herrmann

      I'd really like some input and thoughts please.
    1. Andrew Bryz-Gornia's Avatar
      Andrew Bryz-Gornia -
      Quote Originally Posted by YourHouseIsMyHouse View Post
      Arizona could be interested in Span, correct? Gerado Parra isn't much of a player so I think that would be someplace we could move Denard..
      Um, Parra and Span are pretty similar stat-wise. The only difference is that Parra has primarily played the corner outfield, whereas Span has been a center fielder. Arizona won't take Span.
    1. minn55441's Avatar
      minn55441 -
      Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall told reporters Bauer admitted he made mistakes and has even reached out to some veteran teammates, including closer J.J. Putz. And though there had been some whispers the D-Backs might trade Bauer this offseason, Hall told the reporters that this wouldn't be happening.

      This quote is from Friday.

      We were maybe just getting our hopes up.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by minn55441 View Post
      Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall told reporters Bauer admitted he made mistakes and has even reached out to some veteran teammates, including closer J.J. Putz. And though there had been some whispers the D-Backs might trade Bauer this offseason, Hall told the reporters that this wouldn't be happening.

      This quote is from Friday.

      We were maybe just getting our hopes up.
      I am sorry you had to be the Harbinger of this bad news. Maybe now we can move on to how Stephen Strasburg is pissed off at the Nats for shutting him down in early September and how we can trade Denard Span for him... the Nats are always seemingly in the market for a Center fielder ya know!
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      The DBacks and the Twins simply do not match up with needs/wants. The Twins do match up very well with TB/ATL/SEA/CIN though and I think we'll see a deal (or two?) happen this offseason.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Bryz-Gornia View Post

      Um, Parra and Span are pretty similar stat-wise. The only difference is that Parra has primarily played the corner outfield, whereas Span has been a center fielder. Arizona won't take Span.
      Span has a career OPS+ of 104, Parra has 93.

      Also his WAR was 3.2 higher last year then Parra's and has been quite a bit higher over the course of their careers Span (16.5 vs 4.8)
    1. SpantheMan's Avatar
      SpantheMan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
      Yes.
      10 Trevor Plouffe's couldn't bring back Bauer.
    1. edavis0308's Avatar
      edavis0308 -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
      Yes.
      wow.....
      Back to the idea that our trash is another team's treasure! Brilliant!!
    1. edavis0308's Avatar
      edavis0308 -
      We are a year or so too late or we could have packaged Valencia and Slowey with Plouffe to get the deal done.
    1. The Greatest Poster Alive's Avatar
      The Greatest Poster Alive -
      Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
      Yes.
      wow.....
      Back to the idea that our trash is another team's treasure! Brilliant!!
      I don't think Plouffe alone is enough to get Bauer. We'd probably have to throw in blackburn (solidify their 5th starter). And probably Carrol too.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      [QUOTE=SpiritofVodkaDave;62152]
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/Q

      Yes.
      wow.....
      The original article has a premise of "no OFers" because AZ has plenty of them, requires a package that doesn't contain an OF. To include Gibson is likely self-defeating--Twins require pitching--so trade something else. True, I am skeptical about Plouffe and consider him "tradeable", but many teams are seeking HR hitters at 3B, (and in AZ) I think Plouffe might be considered more than useful. Plouffe is at the ML level (now) and as such is more valuable than most "prospects" the Twins can offer. I infer most other poster are also skeptical about Plouffe. Most teams are forced to compromise at 3B simply because there aren't enough of them that hit and field the position at the desired level and Plouffe may be someone that AZ places value. Could the Twins add to this offer?--Yes.
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      The original article has a premise of "no OFers" because AZ has plenty of them, requires a package that doesn't contain an OF. To include Gibson is likely self-defeating--Twins require pitching--so trade something else. True, I am skeptical about Plouffe and consider him "tradeable", but many teams are seeking HR hitters at 3B, (and in AZ) I think Plouffe might be considered more than useful. Plouffe is at the ML level (now) and as such is more valuable than most "prospects" the Twins can offer. I infer most other poster are also skeptical about Plouffe. Most teams are forced to compromise at 3B simply because there aren't enough of them that hit and field the position at the desired level and Plouffe may be someone that AZ places value. Could the Twins add to this offer?--Yes.
      You obviously misread the topic. This was about trading for Trevor Bauer and not Josh Collmenter. If teams are going to compromise then they offer a compromise back instead of a top ten prospect.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
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