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    On Tuesday, the Minnesota Twins announced the additions of eight players to their 40 man roster. This protects those players from being selected in the December 6 Rule 5 draft. They added pitchers Kyle Gibson, Caleb Thielbar, BJ Hermsen, Tim Wood and Michael Tonkin, along with catcher Josmil Pinto, infielder Danny Santana and outfielder Aaron Hicks.

    Aaron Hicks and Kyle Gibson were considered absolutes, the givens, to be added.
    Aaron Hicks, the Twins 2008 first round pick out high school in California, put together a terrific 2012 campaign at AA New Britain. He filled the stat sheet quite well. Overall, he hit .286/.384/.460 with 21 doubles, 11 triples, 13 home runs, 61 RBI, 100 runs scored and 32 stolen bases. There has never been any question about his defense. He has terrific range and speed and a very strong arm. In other words, he could be a future centerfielder, but he also has a typical right fielderís arm.

    Kyle Gibson was the Twins top pick in the 2009 draft out of the University of Missouri. His career began in 2010, and he raced up the Twins system. He made seven starts at Ft. Myers, 16 starts at New Britain and finished the season with three starts in Rochester. Overall, he went 11-6 with a 2.96 ERA in 26 starts. In 152 innings, he walked 39 and struckout 126. He began the 2011 season quite well. He was among the Top Twins minor league pitchers during the first two months of the season, but then he really struggled. He was hurt, and in September, he had Tommy John surgery. Gibson followed a plan and was able to return to the mound. First, he pitched nine games (14.2 innings) in the Gulf Coast League. Then he made two starts for Ft. Myers before ending the season with two starts for Rochester. He just completed his final outing in the Arizona Fall League where he showed increased velocity and sink on his pitches. He appears to be quite close.

    Beyond those two, I think there were several who likely had to be considered. I thought Santana, Tonkin and Hermsen would be added, and they were, but three surprise names were added as well.

    Danny Santana just turned 22 years old. He hit .286/.329/.410 (.739) with 21 doubles, 9 triples and 8 home runs in his first season in Ft. Myers. He drove in 60 runs and scored 70 runs. He stole 17 bases. He is a prototypical shortstop, not real big, great speed and a big arm.

    BJ Hermsen was the Twins minor league pitcher of the year in 2012 when he combined to go 12-6 with a 2.88 ERA and a 1.17 WHIP. In 26 starts and 162.2 innings, he gave up 161 hits, walked 30 and struck out 87.

    Michael Tonkin will turn 23 next week. He was the 30th round pick in 2008 and is Jason Kubelís brother-in-law. Began at Beloit and went 3-0 with 6 saves, an ERA of 1.38 and a WHIP of 0.97. After MWL All-Star game, promoted to Ft. Myers. Went 1-1 with 6 saves, a 2.97 ERA and a 1.15 WHIP. Overall, in 69.1 innings, he gave up just 53 hits, walked 20 and struckout 97.

    Caleb Thielbar came to the Twins in August of 2011 from the St. Paul Saints. He took advantage of the opportunity. The lefty started this season in Ft. Myers, quickly moved up to New Britain and then quickly advanced to Rochester. His delivery is interesting and he pitches a lot like Glen Perkins (just in the low-90s instead of the mid-90s).

    Tim Wood just came to the Twins a few weeks ago as a minor league free agent. The Twins must believe that someone would have selected the hard-thrower in the Rule 5 draft as they did protect him. He was the International League Relief Pitcher of the Year last year, for what thatís worth.

    Josmil Pinto had a very nice season last year in Ft. Myers. He ended by playing a handful of games in New Britain. He is a catcher who has thrown out a good percentage of would-be base stealers, but he is on this list for his bat.

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    Bruce Pugh is probably the biggest surprise omission from the list. Had he been healthy this year, Adrian Salcedo would have been a given to protect.

    What are your thoughts? The Twins now have a full, 40 man roster. These eight players need to remain on the 40 man roster until spring training, so if and when the Twins add some free agents, or make some trades, they may have to drop some others that are on the roster.

    Being honest, I am more than a little shocked at the number of players that the Twins chose to add to the 40 man roster, and I canít necessarily say that as a positive thing. It may be good. We will see next year if Tim Wood can finally figure things out, and if Thielbar has a chance. The Twins now have five catchers on their 40 man roster. That said, the five players that I thought the Twins were most likely to add were added, and thatís important.
    This article was originally published in blog: Gibson, Hicks among 8 players added to Twins 40 man roster started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 48 Comments
    1. SirLoin's Avatar
      SirLoin -
      I have to imagine it's almost a lock that Anthony Slama gets taken in the Rule 5 draft. There has to be a team like the Royals or Astros that would be more than willing to give him a shot for an entire season.
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      I believe that the addition of Pinto signals the end of Butera's tenure with the Twins. No way are the Twins going to keep 5 catchers on the 40 man roster, so I expect Butera to be non-tendered.
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      Quote Originally Posted by SirLoin View Post
      I have to imagine it's almost a lock that Anthony Slama gets taken in the Rule 5 draft. There has to be a team like the Royals or Astros that would be more than willing to give him a shot for an entire season.
      I agree that there is some team willing to give Slama a shot, especially after his performance last year.
    1. Winston Smith's Avatar
      Winston Smith -
      If they take a player in the rule 5 or they sign any free agents what players are likely to be dropped if these guys must stay until spring?
      Seems really strange they didn't leave any open spots with all the players being let go.
    1. minn55441's Avatar
      minn55441 -
      Any thought that by filling up the entire 40 man roster that it signals that we have a multi-player trade brewing? If we are shipping out 2 or 3 guys on our 40 man roster for one very good pitcher, that would leave us at 37 or 38?

      Am I being too optimistic?
    1. Jim H's Avatar
      Jim H -
      I think that the Twins might have a couple of guys they would be willing to risk losing if they have to pass them through waivers. With all teams trying to jockey their 40 man rosters around this time of the year, it might also be a good time to do that.

      I am also a bit surprised they protected that many.
    1. roger's Avatar
      roger -
      I expected Pinto, however, am a bit surprised that they added 8. Expect they will make a move or two before the Rule 5 draft as they certainly will want to look at potential starting pitchers. Most likely to be moved could be Fields.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Field is one of about 5-6 guys who could still be removed if needed.
    1. Madre Dos's Avatar
      Madre Dos -
      Quote Originally Posted by SweetOne69 View Post
      I believe that the addition of Pinto signals the end of Butera's tenure with the Twins. No way are the Twins going to keep 5 catchers on the 40 man roster, so I expect Butera to be non-tendered.
      So happy For Josmil! He is a great guy and very hard working. Hope to see him starting in minnesota one day.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Quote Originally Posted by minn55441 View Post
      Any thought that by filling up the entire 40 man roster that it signals that we have a multi-player trade brewing? If we are shipping out 2 or 3 guys on our 40 man roster for one very good pitcher, that would leave us at 37 or 38?

      Am I being too optimistic?
      It does seem that the Twins are more interested in trading for pitching help than signing free agents. That also is consistent with Ryan's previous statement of "...thin free agent market...".
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      Field is one of about 5-6 guys who could still be removed if needed.
      so who are the other 5 guys that don't deserve to be on the 40 man roster? They better make a move for a decent starter before contracts like the one KC just handed Guthrie drive up the market for the other quality arms.

      One last thing do you think they will draft a hard thrower who can actually throw strikes in the Rule 5 draft?
    1. Rosterman's Avatar
      Rosterman -
      Five other guys: Butera, Swarzak both in arbitration. Tom Field is a so-so. Lester Oliveros is injured and out for most of 2013. Deolis Guerra could be gone. You could argue the need to keep Benson around. Is Mastro a real keeper? Hermann cold be outrighted. Sometimes it is easier to get guys thru once the Rule 5 happens and rosters fill up.
    1. h2oface's Avatar
      h2oface -
      so what is nate roberts' status. can he be selected in the rule 5 draft? with a full 40 man roster........ expectations of free agent pitcher signings are dimmed. at least in the very near future.
    1. Laroosh1's Avatar
      Laroosh1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      I think it is a shame that Chris Colabello was not signed on the 40 man roster. He proved he can hit in AA ball and is tearing it up in Mexico for winter ball. What a shame. They must be saving him for trade.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rosterman View Post
      Five other guys: Butera, Swarzak both in arbitration. Tom Field is a so-so. Lester Oliveros is injured and out for most of 2013. Deolis Guerra could be gone. You could argue the need to keep Benson around. Is Mastro a real keeper? Hermann cold be outrighted. Sometimes it is easier to get guys thru once the Rule 5 happens and rosters fill up.
      Butera, Field easily moved. Swarzak isn't arb eligible so they'll definitely keep him. He would also be lost. Oliveros will be out for all of 2013, but that makes him an easy pick in the Rule 5 because the other team can keep him all next year on their DL and then bring him back the following year. Guerra could possibly sneak through. Mastroianni maybe could sneak through, but he's an ideal 4th OF, so I'd keep him. Herrmann would be claimed by a bunch of teams.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by h2oface View Post
      so what is nate roberts' status. can he be selected in the rule 5 draft? with a full 40 man roster........ expectations of free agent pitcher signings are dimmed. at least in the very near future.
      Nate Roberts doesn't have to be added until after next season since he was a college draft pick in 2010. He and Alex Wimmers should hopefully lead the list of For-Sures.

      Lots can happen to make the roster less than 40 and they can sign free agents. Also, they can make trades.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by Laroosh1 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      I think it is a shame that Chris Colabello was not signed on the 40 man roster. He proved he can hit in AA ball and is tearing it up in Mexico for winter ball. What a shame. They must be saving him for trade.
      He wouldn't have to be added to the 40 man roster until after the 2014 season... so it's not worth taking a roster spot now since he can't be selected in the Rule 5.
    1. maxisagod's Avatar
      maxisagod -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Rosterman View Post
      Five other guys: Butera, Swarzak both in arbitration. Tom Field is a so-so. Lester Oliveros is injured and out for most of 2013. Deolis Guerra could be gone. You could argue the need to keep Benson around. Is Mastro a real keeper? Hermann cold be outrighted. Sometimes it is easier to get guys thru once the Rule 5 happens and rosters fill up.
      Butera, Field easily moved. Swarzak isn't arb eligible so they'll definitely keep him. He would also be lost. Oliveros will be out for all of 2013, but that makes him an easy pick in the Rule 5 because the other team can keep him all next year on their DL and then bring him back the following year. Guerra could possibly sneak through. Mastroianni maybe could sneak through, but he's an ideal 4th OF, so I'd keep him. Herrmann would be claimed by a bunch of teams.
      Oliveros would be the 1st player the twins would remove if they sign someone. If he's out most of 2013, then the rule five rules would apply in 2014 as well.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post

      Nate Roberts doesn't have to be added until after next season since he was a college draft pick in 2010. He and Alex Wimmers should hopefully lead the list of For-Sures.
      Arcia was signed in the summer of 2007 and needed to be added in November of 2011.

      Kepler (summer) and Sano (fall) were signed in 2009, so I'm anticipating that they will need to be added in November of 2013.

      I do believe, though, that I read at one point that because of when Sano signed that the Twins would get an extra year. I didn't - and still don't - see how that's possible. If eligible, both are must-adds.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Laroosh1 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      I think it is a shame that Chris Colabello was not signed on the 40 man roster. He proved he can hit in AA ball and is tearing it up in Mexico for winter ball. What a shame. They must be saving him for trade.
      He wouldn't have to be added to the 40 man roster until after the 2014 season... so it's not worth taking a roster spot now since he can't be selected in the Rule 5.
      Let's be honest here... Colabello will be the everyday first baseman for the Twins at some point in 2013.
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