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  • Ben Revere Traded to Philly for RHP Vance Worley & Top Pitching Prospect

    Vance Worley traded for Ben RevereThe Minnesota Twins have traded CF Ben Revere to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for RHP Vance Worley and a prospect. The prospect is Trevor May.

    Revere was the heir apparent for the Twins Center Field job going back to when Denard Span was dealt to the Washington Nationals for RHP Alex Meyer. He will go to the Phillies where he and Span will compete (with BJ Upton) for NL East (CF) supremacy.

    Vance Worley has spent parts of the past three seasons with the Phillies. Overall, he is 18-13 with a 3.50 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP. He also has 238 strikeouts in 277.2 (7.7 K/9).

    Trevor May is a 6-5, 215 pound right-hander. He was the #69 overall prospect according to Baseball America last year. As a 22 year old in the Eastern League (AA), he went 10-13 with a 4.87 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. However, in 149.2 innings, he struckout 151 (and walked 78). He should fit pretty easily into the Twins top 10 prospects. He is currently ranked as the Phillies #2 prospect.

    Revere's Twins tenure is best known for his web gem frequency and his speed. He loved playing with the Twins and fans loved the smile that he always plays with. He is certainly limited offensively as a singles hitter, but he can steal bases. Some in the organization always saw him more as a 4th outfielder, so to get a solid MLB starting pitcher plus a very talented pitching prospect for him is a great move by Terry Ryan and the Twins!
    This article was originally published in blog: Revere Traded to Philly for Worley started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 226 Comments
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      I agree, if they do not use the money they have to sign 2 legit pitchers, that indicates they are punting. But that does not mean, imo, they should punt. They should sign Marcum and someone else.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan View Post
      Congratulations, lets throw a party, we are now the Minnesota Royals. Great minor league teams, two major league players. Maybe we can trade Willingham and Maur also. Next winning season 2020 (if everything breaks right).
      The Twins just picked up a legitimate Major League pitcher AND a solid pitching prospect for a guy who may be outplayed by Aaron Hicks in the coming season.
    1. S.'s Avatar
      S. -
      As has been said many times already, Revere was certainly fun to watch but only a fool wouldn't be happy about this trade. Now I'd love to see us sign Marcum to a 3 year deal to have a solid, veteran arm in the rotation to go along with the young guys who will be coming up over the next 3 years.

      A shortstop that doesn't make me weep would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
    1. Ultima Ratio's Avatar
      Ultima Ratio -
      So unless Morneau is moved, Parmelee is definitely slotting to start in RF now. I can accept that.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by S. View Post
      As has been said many times already, Revere was certainly fun to watch but only a fool wouldn't be happy about this trade. Now I'd love to see us sign Marcum to a 3 year deal to have a solid, veteran arm in the rotation to go along with the young guys who will be coming up over the next 3 years.

      A shortstop that doesn't make me weep would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
      The Twins absolutely have the money to do both. It's just unfortunate that the middle infield class is so weak this offseason.
    1. Wookiee of the Year's Avatar
      Wookiee of the Year -
      Quote Originally Posted by FrodaddyG View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by messed up View Post
      I was with you on this one Riverbrian. I hate to lose Revere but it's no surprise to me the Twins got more for Revere than they did for Span
      It's really strange... I can't describe it... I'm pumped about two decent arms coming to us... And floored at.the reality of the loss of my favorite Twin.
      If you liked Revere, there's this Hicks kid in the pipeline who does all the same stuff, plus a throwing arm, plus the ability to draw walks, plus some pop.
      Yeah, but how's his smile?

      I'm with you, Riverbrian--sad to see my favorite Twin go, but impressed by the return he brought and know it looks likes the right move.
    1. @_2244's Avatar
      @_2244 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I'll stand by my prediction that if he has a strong season in a ballpark favorable to what he does best, the Phillies consider extension talks in the offseason.
      And I'd still consider it a mistake but I think Revere will do better in the NL and that ballpark than he ever would in Target Field.
      I fully agree, he's made for the NL and that park and a classy organization. I wish him the best. I just don't like the supposed Twins fans on a Twins blog who still want to get one more kick at a guy- who's done nothing wrong- as he's going out the door.
      I would submit that a player like Revere is best-suited for a cavern like Target Field. Offensively, big outfield gaps make more doubles and triples possible for speedsters who don't hit (m)any taters. Power hitters are going to get their homers, but a big ballpark weeds out the cheap homers from guys that are not typically considered deep threats, which minimizes his power limitations. Defensively, the only negative to Revere playing in a big outfield is his lack of arm strength becomes a bit more problematic. The trade-off is all that real estate gives him a big advantage in terms of defensive range. The guy gets to a lot of balls most OFers couldn't dream of. In addition to being a solid outfielder, he makes some of the best OF catches you'll ever see. Having a lot of territory track down fly balls / line drives caters to one of his biggest strengths.

      I really don't see how playing in a bandbox like Philly benefits a player with Revere's tools whatsoever. A slap-hitting speedster devoid of power, with zero arm strength but great range gets the most out of his abilities in a cavernous ballpark that maxes his assets and minimizes his liabilities.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by S. View Post
      As has been said many times already, Revere was certainly fun to watch but only a fool wouldn't be happy about this trade. Now I'd love to see us sign Marcum to a 3 year deal to have a solid, veteran arm in the rotation to go along with the young guys who will be coming up over the next 3 years.

      A shortstop that doesn't make me weep would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
      The Twins absolutely have the money to do both. It's just unfortunate that the middle infield class is so weak this offseason.
      You mean FA MI class, right? Because there were/are certainly MI potentially available in trade. Right now, there are at least half a dozen AAA teams that have a better MI rotation than the Twins do, embarassing, and potentially the prime diaster point for 2013.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by @_2244 View Post
      I would submit that a player like Revere is best-suited for a cavern like Target Field. Offensively, big outfield gaps make more doubles and triples possible for speedsters who don't hit (m)any taters. Power hitters are going to get their homers, but a big ballpark weeds out the cheap homers from guys that are not typically considered deep threats, which minimizes his power limitations. Defensively, the only negative to Revere playing in a big outfield is his lack of arm strength becomes a bit more problematic. The trade-off is all that real estate gives him a big advantage in terms of defensive range. The guy gets to a lot of balls most OFers couldn't dream of. In addition to being a solid outfielder, he makes some of the best OF catches you'll ever see. Having a lot of territory track down fly balls / line drives caters to one of his biggest strengths.

      I really don't see how playing in a bandbox like Philly benefits a player with Revere's tools whatsoever. A slap-hitting speedster devoid of power, with zero arm strength but great range gets the most out of his abilities in a cavernous ballpark that maxes his assets and minimizes his liabilities.
      Defensively, park size isn't going to matter much. Any MLB park is big enough to strain the range of any outfielder. Revere is going to shut down CF in Citizen's Bank Park.

      Offensively, you have a point but Revere hits the ball on the ground A LOT. Park doesn't matter a lick at that point and I think facing inferior NL pitching will be more of an advantage than having a cavernous park in which to hit.

      Plus, he may actually hit a homerun in Philly. I don't think he'd ever do that at TF.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      You mean FA MI class, right? Because there were/are certainly MI potentially available in trade. Right now, there are at least half a dozen AAA teams that have a better MI rotation than the Twins do, embarassing, and potentially the prime diaster point for 2013.
      Yeah, I meant free agent middle infielders.
    1. S.'s Avatar
      S. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      The Twins absolutely have the money to do both. It's just unfortunate that the middle infield class is so weak this offseason.
      Agreed on both fronts. If there were some better FA options I could definitely see us getting Marcum on a multi year deal, someone on a cheap one year deal (Liriano comes to mind), and a SS. Unfortunately, I envision them trotting out a middle infield of Carroll/Dozier/Florimon for a good chunk of the year, then potentially trying for a young SS at the deadline in a Willingham or Morneau trade if their value is up.

      Though, TR has surprised me today. Maybe we'll be seeing a trade for a SS before the start of the year.
    1. crapforks's Avatar
      crapforks -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      You mean FA MI class, right? Because there were/are certainly MI potentially available in trade. Right now, there are at least half a dozen AAA teams that have a better MI rotation than the Twins do, embarassing, and potentially the prime diaster point for 2013.
      MI could be the disaster point, but with no clear CF, two penciled-in SP (out of 5) and no lineup presence out of the 1,2,7,8 and 9 spots (assuming one of Doumit and Plouffe hits, but not both), I think 13 is shaping up to be a rough year. And a season I will spend much more time watching than last.
    1. LaBombo's Avatar
      LaBombo -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      Interesting that we actually got more for Revere than we did for Span. I'd put May between Meyers and Gibson. Worley becomes the number 2 starter, for the time being, behind Scott Diamond.
      For what it's worth, the James projection thinks Worley's ERA should be about a half run better than Diamond's.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by crapforks View Post
      I think 13 is shaping up to be a rough year. And a season I will spend much more time watching than last.
      Funny how it works that way, isn't it? The true fans are more excited than ever while casual fans are moping that we "lost" Smiley McGee.
    1. johnnydakota's Avatar
      johnnydakota -
      does this mean joe mauer bats leadoff?
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by LaBombo View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      Interesting that we actually got more for Revere than we did for Span. I'd put May between Meyers and Gibson. Worley becomes the number 2 starter, for the time being, behind Scott Diamond.
      For what it's worth, the James projection thinks Worley's ERA should be about a half run better than Diamond's.
      I assume that projection was for the NL, not AL.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
      does this mean joe mauer bats leadoff?
      Barring any acquisitions, my guess is second with Carroll slotting in first (unless Hicks grabs that spot).
    1. crapforks's Avatar
      crapforks -
      http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...ore-sense.html

      Speculation that those two (Worley-May) plus one piece (Brown or a catcher) was maybe getting them Justin Upton
    1. johnnydakota's Avatar
      johnnydakota -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by crapforks View Post
      I think 13 is shaping up to be a rough year. And a season I will spend much more time watching than last.
      Funny how it works that way, isn't it? The true fans are more excited than ever while casual fans are moping that we "lost" Smiley McGee.
      see what hope does for ther fans? )
    1. S.'s Avatar
      S. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Funny how it works that way, isn't it? The true fans are more excited than ever while casual fans are moping that we "lost" Smiley McGee.
      But...but...he's fast.
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