• Rotation becomes clear as Minnesota Twins cut two more

    The Minnesota Twins announce today that they have send pitchers Samuel Deduno and P.J. Walters to AAA, leaving 29 players on the active roster.

    A tweaked groin during his last start in the World Baseball Classic derailed Deduno’s chances of making the rotation to open the season. He had pitched extremely well in the international competition, allowing just one earned run in 13 innings while striking out 17 and walked just five. Had it not have been for the injury, Deduno would likely have been a member of the rotation.

    Walters, meanwhile, had his name in the conversation this spring by not allowing many runs. However, he walked eight batters in 13 innings and, in his most recent outing against the Blue Jays, Walters was smacked around a bit.

    These two moves clear the path for pitchers Cole Devries and Liam Hendriks to join the rotation, at least while Scott Diamond recovers from his offseason elbow injury.

    With the roster set at 29, the remaining positional race to focus on will be the last two spot in the bullpen which should come down to Tyler Robertson, Josh Roenicke and Alex Burnett.
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    1. jun's Avatar
      jun -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Why on Earth would you doubt Hendriks' ability and have hopes for De Vries (and to a lesser extent, Deduno)?
      The fact that it took him 20 starts to get a win in the major league level made me believe he would not have much success in the major league.
      Why on earth would you believe Hendriks' ability? He has shown very little. Deduno has the stuff to be successful as we all saw from WBC. De Vries could work the corners, he had some success last season and he had an awesome spring.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      The fact that it took him 20 starts to get a win in the major league level made me believe he would not have much success in the major league.
      Except that he has better stuff than De Vries, has a very good track record in the minors, and is what, 4 years younger?

      Wins are far too team-dependent to matter if/when a player gets his first win.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      The fact that it took him 20 starts to get a win in the major league level made me believe he would not have much success in the major league.
      Why on earth would you believe Hendriks' ability? He has shown very little. Deduno has the stuff to be successful as we all saw from WBC. De Vries could work the corners, he had some success last season and he had an awesome spring.
      Guys develop at different rates. Some guys take longer to become major leaguers than others. Torii Hunter and Michael Cuddyer are two examples of guys who struggled when they first gt called up, and had to go back down to work on stuff. On the pitching side, Johan Santana took three years after his initial stint to develop into a quality pitcher. He only became a good starter after an extended stint in AAA. That's a common story.

      Hendriks is very young and has a very good minor league track record. His problems last year are well documented: He pitched much more tentatively in the majors then he had in the minors because he was afraid. When he got over that fear late in the year and started attacking the zone, he was fine. He should be a decent 4 or 5 guy for years to come.
    1. jun's Avatar
      jun -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Except that he has better stuff than De Vries, has a very good track record in the minors, and is what, 4 years younger?

      Wins are far too team-dependent to matter if/when a player gets his first win.
      He has a better stuff than De Vries? His straight fast ball and hittable slider? His only advantage is he has success in the minors. The reason he is still on major league roster is because he has nothing to prove in the minor. I don't think he earns the spot like De Vries.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      He has a better stuff than De Vries? His straight fast ball and hittable slider? His only advantage is he has success in the minors. The reason he is still on major league roster is because he has nothing to prove in the minor. I don't think he earns the spot like De Vries.
      You can argue stuff but I'll take Hendriks, whose stuff can be quite good at times but has rarely flashed that ability in the Majors (I said from the get-go that he seemed to be pitching scared and still stick by that analysis... Which Parker also concluded in a great write-up a few months back). If he matures a bit and trusts his stuff, he's probably going to be a decent pitcher.

      And he's still four years younger. De Vries is past the typical prime season (age 27), Hendriks is still three years from it.

      Neither player is guaranteed prolonged success but if one of them does manage to pull it off, my money is on Liam.
    1. jun's Avatar
      jun -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      Guys develop at different rates. Some guys take longer to become major leaguers than others. Torii Hunter and Michael Cuddyer are two examples of guys who struggled when they first gt called up, and had to go back down to work on stuff. On the pitching side, Johan Santana took three years after his initial stint to develop into a quality pitcher. He only became a good starter after an extended stint in AAA. That's a common story.

      Hendriks is very young and has a very good minor league track record. His problems last year are well documented: He pitched much more tentatively in the majors then he had in the minors because he was afraid. When he got over that fear late in the year and started attacking the zone, he was fine. He should be a decent 4 or 5 guy for years to come.
      Hendriks has not made much improvement this year. I predict he is going to be another Blackburn this year.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      Hendriks has not made much improvement this year. I predict he is going to be another Blackburn this year.
      And you're basing that on 21 Spring Training innings?

      Compared to De Vries' 13 Spring Training innings?
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      Hendriks has not made much improvement this year. I predict he is going to be another Blackburn this year.
      I'd be happy with a 12-12 year, 200 innings and a 4 ERA. That was Blackburn in his first full year of starting.
    1. ashburyjohn's Avatar
      ashburyjohn -
      Quote Originally Posted by jun View Post
      The reason he is still on major league roster is because he has nothing to prove in the minor.
      I can't remember, has someone in charge (Gardy, Anderson, Ryan) said something to this effect? Seems to me he doesn't do what they tell him, namely mix in other pitches with his fastball, and/or develop something better than his slider. So they could easily say to him "go to the minors and prove you can do what we've been telling you, and not simply get AAA hitters out with a diet of fastballs".
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