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  • Oswaldo Arcia To Be Called Up On Monday

    According to Phil Miller, the Star-Tribune's Minnesota Twins beat reporter, Oswaldo Arcia will be called up on Monday to fill-in for Wilkin Ramirez, who will go on paternity leave. Twins Daily ranks Arcia as the #4 prospect in the Twins system, is only 21 years old and is currently hitting .414 with a .793(!) slugging percentage in Rochester. According to Miller, he will be the youngest player to debut for the Twins since Joe Mauer.

    How much playing time he'll have remains to be seen. Ramirez is a bench bat, but the Twins are unlikely to be calling up Arcia to sit on the bench. He has played mostly right field for the last two years, but Chris Parmelee is relatively young and healthy and also hits left-handed, like Arcia. The other corner outfield, Josh Willingham is a veteran who hit 35 home runs last year. It seems most likely Arcia will serve in one of those spots or as designated hitter, and the positions will rotate, giving Parmelee, Willingham, Joe Mauer, Ryan Doumit or Justin Morneau some time off.

    It's also unclear how long he will remain with the team. Ramirez should only be gone for a few games. For Arcia to remain much longer would require an injury, some serious roster re-shuffling or a change in position.

    Last year in AA-New Britain, Arcia did play 10 games in center field and played their full time in rookie league. His move to a corner spot supposedly had more to do with the organization's depth than his inability to play the position. So the Twins could try for a game in center field.

    If he can handle the position defensively, it might make things interesting for the Twins. Current center fielder Aaron Hicks has struggled from the left side of the plate in the past and has just two hits and two walks versus 17 strikeouts from that side this year. The Twins could platoon the two as they learn the ropes their rookie years.
    Comments 87 Comments
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      One would like to think the performance of Hicks so far would make the Twins cautious to give Arcia anything more than a taste. This is a bad baseball team again, at this point I don't see why we throw another piece of the future at this mess.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
      One would like to think the performance of Hicks so far would make the Twins cautious to give Arcia anything more than a taste. This is a bad baseball team again, at this point I don't see why we throw another piece of the future at this mess.
      I've always been higher on Arcia than I have been Hicks so it may be clouding my judgment but I don't see Oswaldo coming up and striking out in 50% of his ABs. I don't worry nearly as much about Arcia figuring out MLB pitching as I do Hicks.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      I've always been higher on Arcia than I have been Hicks so it may be clouding my judgment but I don't see Oswaldo coming up and striking out in 50% of his ABs. I don't worry nearly as much about Arcia figuring out MLB pitching as I do Hicks.
      Even so, there may be other aspects of his game that some refining could help with. At this point, why have him up unless he is ready. I have a problem with bringing up an elite prospect this early to a bad team unless he's basically demanding to be called up. I don't think we're quite there with him yet personally. His time is coming and I'm excited, but I hope this is just a brief taste.

      Let's go snag Bourjos for Slama (Duensing? Not to mock the rule) or something and reboot this thing in the outfield. Hicks and Arcia should get nice and comfy playing with each other in AAA and be ready for later in the season.
    1. mudcat14's Avatar
      mudcat14 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
      The only conclusion I can draw is that the Twins have decided that they aren't going to play the service clock game this year.

      Excited to see Arcia.
      This is what stands out for me too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether he's up for three days or 300, his service time clock keeps ticking regardless. I don't think they bring him up unless they're giving him a chance to stick. Ramirez can play CF as well. Doesn't look good for Aaron at mid-week, but it's probably best for him to work things out at Rochester. I do think if Oz can handle it the job, we'll definitely be a seller at the deadline (if not way before.)
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      I really don't know if Arcia should be up for 3 days or not.

      But... I'm really looking forward to watching him play. Hope it will be fun.
    1. Mr. Brooks's Avatar
      Mr. Brooks -
      Quote Originally Posted by mudcat14 View Post
      This is what stands out for me too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether he's up for three days or 300, his service time clock keeps ticking regardless. I don't think they bring him up unless they're giving him a chance to stick. Ramirez can play CF as well. Doesn't look good for Aaron at mid-week, but it's probably best for him to work things out at Rochester. I do think if Oz can handle it the job, we'll definitely be a seller at the deadline (if not way before.)
      You are wrong. MLB service time only keeps ticking if he happens to go on the DL before he is sent down.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mudcat14 View Post
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether he's up for three days or 300, his service time clock keeps ticking regardless.
      Service only accumulates if a player is on the active roster. If he comes up for 3 days, then goes back down, those are the only 3 days of service he'll get.
    1. Oxtung's Avatar
      Oxtung -
      I think the Twins have to be hoping he'll play well enough to force Hicks down (not that it would take much offensively). Starting his service clock for what could be 3 days of sitting on the bench (not saying Arcia will sit on the bench but you could bring up Clete Thomas or Brandon Boggs or somebody to do that) is terribly stupid imo. I'm sure the Twins are thinking he'll be back up later in the year so what does it matter but what happens if he gets hurt and has to sit out the rest of the year. Now you've wasted a year of service time for 3 days of backup duty. So unless they're giving Arcia a legitimate shot in CF and sending Hicks down in a few days I think this is a terrible move.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      My only worry is he goes 4-4 and 3-4 and they feel a need to keep him and send someone else out. Three days isn't going to do anything to his development. Getting a taste might even make him hungrier to file off all the rough edges and get up here for good.

      But if he gets an extended look, I worry about his long-term development. I'm not all that worried, though, 'cause the scenario is an extreme long shot.
    1. Reginald Maudling's Shin's Avatar
      Reginald Maudling's Shin -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
      Even so, there may be other aspects of his game that some refining could help with. At this point, why have him up unless he is ready. I have a problem with bringing up an elite prospect this early to a bad team unless he's basically demanding to be called up. I don't think we're quite there with him yet personally. His time is coming and I'm excited, but I hope this is just a brief taste.

      Let's go snag Bourjos for Slama (Duensing? Not to mock the rule) or something and reboot this thing in the outfield. Hicks and Arcia should get nice and comfy playing with each other in AAA and be ready for later in the season.
      I like Bourjos but why not just let Mastroianni play there. Why give up any assets to win 71 games instead of 68?
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Maudling's Shin View Post
      I like Bourjos but why not just let Mastroianni play there. Why give up any assets to win 71 games instead of 68?
      Blind love for Bourjos' game defensively. Nothing more. It wouldn't be a great move, but I'd love it as a buy-low. Let him re-coop some value by playing every day and flashing that range with our statue in LF and a spacious CF. It'll probably cost a bullpen piece at most, so maybe we can turn that into a buy-low, sell-high situation.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      My only worry is he goes 4-4 and 3-4 and they feel a need to keep him and send someone else out.
      Yeah, it would suck if he were actually good enough to keep around.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Arcia can play CF as good as Cuddyer; this did not stop Gardenhire of playing the latter there...

      I just hope that he makes it difficult to send him down and eventually becomes the Twins' every day LF pushing Willingham to the position he needs to be defensively (DH).

      Really last time he played CF (other than a few games out of need at AA) was last decade in various Rookie leagues. He since beefed up considerably. He is like (pre-injury) Kubel at the OF (a tad better than Parmelee who is considerably improved this season.)
    1. Reginald Maudling's Shin's Avatar
      Reginald Maudling's Shin -
      I'd love it but I don't think the Angels would.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Maudling's Shin View Post
      I'd love it but I don't think the Angels would.
      Agreed, I'm well aware of what an irrational pipe-dream it is. But I wish nonetheless!
    1. mudcat14's Avatar
      mudcat14 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks View Post
      You are wrong. MLB service time only keeps ticking if he happens to go on the DL before he is sent down.
      So to qualify as a 'Super 2' or whatever the term is, he would have to stay up the rest of the this season plus the next two to qualify for arbitration?
    1. Danchat's Avatar
      Danchat -
      Hey. Doumit and Hicks combined are batting .218. How can it hurt to have Arcia fill in for either one of them?
      Wait a second.... Doumit would have to be batting .400 if their AVGs were combined.
    1. Reginald Maudling's Shin's Avatar
      Reginald Maudling's Shin -
      Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98 View Post
      Arcia can play CF as good as Cuddyer; this did not stop Gardenhire of playing the latter there...

      I just hope that he makes it difficult to send him down and eventually becomes the Twins' every day LF pushing Willingham to the position he needs to be defensively (DH).

      Really last time he played CF (other than a few games out of need at AA) was last decade in various Rookie leagues. He since beefed up considerably. He is like (pre-injury) Kubel at the OF (a tad better than Parmelee who is considerably improved this season.)
      IMO Willingham should have been in right field starting last year, he's got a good enough arm that he provides value out there. Parmelee has looked adequate enough though that he's not hurting you. At this point they're not moving Willingham from left though.

      If they are planning on keeping Arcia around and sending down Hicks I'd play Mastroianni in center 50% of the time and have Arcia in the lineup full time either in center or right. I don't care what they do with Doumit quite frankly. Parmelee needs ABs more.
    1. spideyo's Avatar
      spideyo -
      I don't think we should read too much into this. Basically, they are saying Ramirez is going to out a few days, and we don't want to play with a short bench. Their options on the 40 are Butera (who is hurt), Herrmann, Pinto, Santana, Benson, and Arcia. Haven't looked at the numbers, but I'm guessing Arcia is hitting best out of that group.

      He almost certainly will get sent down when Ramirez comes back. Of Course, we thought the same thing of Pedro, and that didn't turn out as expected.

      I think there is definitely a willingness to give new faces a real shot and let them earn a spot, that really wasn't there the last few years. If I was Hicks though, I wouldn't be too worried.
    1. Oxtung's Avatar
      Oxtung -
      Quote Originally Posted by spideyo View Post
      I don't think we should read too much into this. Basically, they are saying Ramirez is going to out a few days, and we don't want to play with a short bench. Their options on the 40 are Butera (who is hurt), Herrmann, Pinto, Santana, Benson, and Arcia. Haven't looked at the numbers, but I'm guessing Arcia is hitting best out of that group.

      He almost certainly will get sent down when Ramirez comes back. Of Course, we thought the same thing of Pedro, and that didn't turn out as expected.

      I think there is definitely a willingness to give new faces a real shot and let them earn a spot, that really wasn't there the last few years. If I was Hicks though, I wouldn't be too worried.
      If the Twins are only looking for 3 days of bench duty then why bring up Arcia? Herrmann and Benson seem like the obvious choices. Both have already started their service clocks. Herrmann is already riding the pine at Rochester. What is the benefit to bringing Arcia up for only 3 days?
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