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  • Twins Minor League Reports (5/9): Rains and the Miracle Win

    Rain wiped out two of the four Twins minor league affiliates. It rained much of the day in Boston, but the Twins and the Red Sox were able to get in the final game of their series. Rain also caused a delay in Jupiter, Florida, but the Hammerheads and the Miracle were able to finish their game.

    Miguel Sano returned to the Miracle lineup on Thursday night and the team was also boosted by three players who were working in Extended Spring Training just a week ago. Somehow, the Miracle just keep winning! On Friday, The New Britain Rock Cats and the Cedar Rapids Kernels will each play a doubleheader, so tomorrow night’s report will be a little longer.

    Rochester Red Wings 2, Toledo Mud Hens 12

    Box Score

    It’s been a tough go for Liam Hendriks in his time with the Red Wings this year. On Thursday, he gave up six runs on 11 hits in five innings. He walked one and struck out three. He was replaced by Daniel Turpen who did not record an out. He gave up four runs (3 earned) on three hits. He was replaced by Michael O’Connor who gave up two runs on two hits and two walks in… one inning. Virgil Vasquez came on and threw two perfect innings.

    Nate Hanson got the start in right field. He went 2-3 with a walk and his second double. Jeff Clement was 2-4. Chris Colabello hit his ninth double.



    The outfield alignment was Hanson in right field, Joe Benson in center and Chris Herrmann in left. Clete Thomas may miss a couple of games with a groin injury. Evan Bigley was put on the disabled list earlier in the day with a sprained wrist. Danny Lehmann was promoted to Rochester where he will serve as a backup catcher. This will allow Herrmann to play in the outfield.

    New Britain Rock Cats, Portland Sea Dogs


    This game was postponed by rain. A makeup date has not yet been determined. These two teams are already playing a doubleheader on Friday from a previous weather postponement. Cole De Vries will be making his second rehab start, his first with the Rock Cats.

    Ft. Myers Miracle 8, Jupiter Hammerheads 0

    Box Score

    The Miracle improved to 26-7 on this night- how the team is doing it is beyond me. Miguel Sano returned to the lineup on Thursday night after missing two games. He had a good day at the plate, though he committed his third error, and the offense was also helped by a group of players who have been added to the Miracle roster from the Extended Spring Training camp, just across the parking lot.

    Sano was 2-4 with a walk in his return. However, Jonathan Murphy went 3-5 with his second double. Joel Licon, in his first game with the Miracle, also went 3-5 with a double. Aderlin Mejia was 2-3 with a walk, his third double and his second stolen base. A week ago, those three were toiling in anonymity on the back fields in Ft. Myers. This week, they’re helping one of the best minor league teams continue to win.

    Tom Stuifbergen started for the Miracle. He gave up two hits in two shutout innings. Then the rains came, and delayed the game long enough that Stuifbergen was replaced. Cole Johnson was brought in to the game and he continued what he’s done all year. He threw three shutout innings and gave up just two hits. He struck out four (and walked none) to reduce his ERA to 1.06. Dakota Watts went two scoreless innings and gave up one hit. Corey Williams gave up two hits and a walk, but he provided two scoreless innings as well.

    Cedar Rapids Kernels, Quad Cities Bandits


    The game was rained out. It will be made up as part of a doubleheader starting at 5:00 on Friday. Outfielder JD Williams has not played since Saturday. In a text message with Kernels manager Jake Mauer, he said, “JD tweaked his groin, should be good tomorrow.”


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    This article was originally published in blog: Twins Minor League Reports (5/9): Rains and the Miracle Win started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 20 Comments
    1. clutterheart's Avatar
      clutterheart -
      Seems like there is some expendable AAA pitchers that could be moved around to make room from Meyer or May. Then Baxendale could move up.
      Not every player on the roster can be a prospect but hopefully these guys don't hold anyone back.
    1. greengoblinrulz's Avatar
      greengoblinrulz -
      How does Jonathon Murphy & Joel Licon go from EST (after GCL ball) to High A ball but guys like Adam Walker/Byron Buxton cannot get a promotion when they clearly earn it.

      Any word on Nate Roberts, or can we just write him off as another injury-riddled Brandon Roberts type??
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
      How does Jonathon Murphy & Joel Licon go from EST (after GCL ball) to High A ball but guys like Adam Walker/Byron Buxton cannot get a promotion when they clearly earn it.

      Any word on Nate Roberts, or can we just write him off as another injury-riddled Brandon Roberts type??
      Great point Ggb.

      Twins SOP with promotions of convenience as 3 non-propsects get "promoted" for non-meritorious production, skipping A ball outright. Mejia appears to have the best minor league record of the 3- and is repeating A+ ball, but doesn't appear to have a position established and is quite small in stature.

      In addition to Roberts, when and where do Max Kepler and Delbinson Romero go when they finally breakout from EST hell?
    1. clutterheart's Avatar
      clutterheart -
      Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
      How does Jonathon Murphy & Joel Licon go from EST (after GCL ball) to High A ball but guys like Adam Walker/Byron Buxton cannot get a promotion when they clearly earn it.

      Any word on Nate Roberts, or can we just write him off as another injury-riddled Brandon Roberts type??
      I think those guys are college guys from '12 draft. I think they were in EST and instead of sending them to Beliot or calling someone up for just a few days, they were brought across from the street.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
      Seems like there is some expendable AAA pitchers that could be moved around to make room from Meyer or May. Then Baxendale could move up.
      Not every player on the roster can be a prospect but hopefully these guys don't hold anyone back.
      They won't hold anyone back, but they allow the Twins to make decisions on the prospects wisely instead of pushing them too quickly. Don't forget, there are still something like 10-12 players (mostly pitchers) on the Rochester DL."

      As soon as Meyer and May start throwing more strikes, they'll move up.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
      How does Jonathon Murphy & Joel Licon go from EST (after GCL ball) to High A ball but guys like Adam Walker/Byron Buxton cannot get a promotion when they clearly earn it.

      Any word on Nate Roberts, or can we just write him off as another injury-riddled Brandon Roberts type??
      Again, it's about putting the actual prospects where it is best for them, but it's also something where they have to be fair to the affiliates. Cedar Rapids has a good chance for a playoff spot as a first-half champ. Buxton and Walker will move up when 1.) they're ready and have done it for 8-10 weeks instead of 4, and 2.) if they're in a playoff race, they'll keep them there an extra week. At the end of the day, Buxton and Walker will be in Ft. Myers. Will getting there a week or so really make a difference?

      As for the guys getting an opportunity with the Miracle, it's not unusual, though I don't remember seeing this many moves across the parking lot. All three of them will play with Elizabethton (though Murphy could go to Cedar Rapids to take Walker or Buxton's spot when they do get promoted).

      Also, Kyle Knudson will likely be off the DL in 2-3 days, and Eddie Rosario will be ready to play in a couple of days too. Doesn't make a lot of sense to have a player or two travel from Cedar Rapids to Ft. Myers only to turn around like a day or two later.
    1. MWLFan's Avatar
      MWLFan -
      I know the Twins make most of their decisions based on the comments section of Twins Daily so can we slow the Buxton to Fort Meyers talk down...I have a bunch of friends coming down Memorial Day from the Cities to catch some games and they want to see him. He will be in Fort Meyers soon enough, at least let him play in the MWL All Star Game and then move him. At least wait until Kepler can replace him or give them time in the outfield together. Then I can see Buxton, ABW2 and Kepler all in the same outfield. Last year it was Rosario, Sano and Vargas in the infield. Give an old minor league guy some love here and cool it before the pressure gets to TR and caves to the vast knowledge contained within these pages of TD comments. Look what happened when everyone here wanted Corriera, pressure got to TR and he finally gave up signing Grienke and tossed that contract in the trash.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      I'd rather they push college guys faster, to see if they are any good or not. I'm tired of college guys going to EST and GCL and beating up on HS kids and making the Twins think they are actually good. Buxton will be promoted in june or july, the key is what happens next year, imo. I hope May can learn to throw strikes........
    1. roger's Avatar
      roger -
      Quote Originally Posted by MWLFan View Post
      I know the Twins make most of their decisions based on the comments section of Twins Daily so can we slow the Buxton to Fort Meyers talk down...I have a bunch of friends coming down Memorial Day from the Cities to catch some games and they want to see him. He will be in Fort Meyers soon enough, at least let him play in the MWL All Star Game and then move him. At least wait until Kepler can replace him or give them time in the outfield together. Then I can see Buxton, ABW2 and Kepler all in the same outfield. Last year it was Rosario, Sano and Vargas in the infield. Give an old minor league guy some love here and cool it before the pressure gets to TR and caves to the vast knowledge contained within these pages of TD comments. Look what happened when everyone here wanted Corriera, pressure got to TR and he finally gave up signing Grienke and tossed that contract in the trash.
      I loved your comment, thanks. Best smile I have had in a week!
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by MWLFan View Post
      I know the Twins make most of their decisions based on the comments section of Twins Daily.....Look what happened when everyone here wanted Corriera, pressure got to TR and he finally gave up signing Grienke and tossed that contract in the trash.
      Correia's start last night didn't give you at least some pause from your attempt at light-hearted humor? The Twins make decisions based on many factors, only some of which are based on actually putting the best players in the best situations for their career development. Even Seth admitted in this very thread that your affiliate's deservedmess at their shot at a playoff spot possibly trumps the best developmental interests of any one particular player.
    1. birdwatcher's Avatar
      birdwatcher -
      Thanks for the laugh, MWLFan. But you know, these guys are right. The Twins don't know what they're doing. I mean, they trot out these college scrubs in Elizabethton, let them beat up on all these high schoolers, and they start to think they're good. Geez.

      Never mind the facts, which are: 1) The average age of the Twins prospects in the Appalachian League versus other teams has been virtually the same for years, and 2) our A level teams have an incredible combined record of 47-16. But they only THINK they're good. But this must be because they're still beating up on younger players, even though they're the same age.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Averages are pretty useless.....the average temperature in a hospital is normal, but for each patient, that average is meaningless.

      If that is aimed at me, I've never said they don't know what they are doing, I've said putting college juniors in Elizabethton tells you nothing much about if they are good or not. This opinion is not unique to me, but KLAW and others who have actaully worked in front offices and are now free to be honest because they don't have those aspriations any more have said it online also. I'm using their informed opinion to inform my opinion.

      As for the great success of they system, if that is true, where are all the 26-30 year old great home grown players on the current roster that are carrying the team to success? Why did the lose so many games the last two years, and have to go outside their system for their entire starting rotation?
    1. birdwatcher's Avatar
      birdwatcher -
      mike wants wins,

      You said you're tired of college guys..beating up on HS players and making the Twins think they're actually good. I pointed out that you're operating from a false premise. I supplied facts that support it.
    1. birdwatcher's Avatar
      birdwatcher -
      As for KLAW's and your opinion about not being able to ascertain whether a college player is good or not if they start in Elizabethton? What nonsense. The Twins know exactly what they have. They know how "good" a player is. And they know what it takes to develop their skills. Players with polish start at higher levels. I'll take the judgment of dozens of field people who see these guys every day over yours.
    1. birdwatcher's Avatar
      birdwatcher -
      Oh, and mike, averages are VERY meaningful. For example, the average cost of a certain heart treatment at Allina's Mpls. Heart Clinic is $58,000+. The identical procedure's cost at Park Nicollet is $22,000+. Or do you think these averages are "pretty useless", too?
    1. ashburyjohn's Avatar
      ashburyjohn -
      Quote Originally Posted by MWLFan View Post
      I know the Twins make most of their decisions based on the comments section of Twins Daily so can we slow the Buxton to Fort Meyers talk down
      Sounds like you have outgrown TD and should move up to a higher league, my brother.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      My honest opinion, and I've said it before, is that I don't care where players play the year that they are drafted. That too months is about adjusting to a lot of things whether it's being a professional, being away from home, getting paid, not going to class, finding a place to live and paying bills. Why not do that in a place where the baseball itself will feel comfortable. As has been said, a college starters numbers out of the bullpen in Elizabethton don't matter a lot to me. The scouting reports mean much more.

      To me, it starts mattering in their first full year, and the Twins have so many examples in the past decade of college pitcher that move up two or three or even four levels in that year.
    1. MWLFan's Avatar
      MWLFan -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Correia's start last night didn't give you at least some pause from your attempt at light-hearted humor? The Twins make decisions based on many factors, only some of which are based on actually putting the best players in the best situations for their career development. Even Seth admitted in this very thread that your affiliate's deservedmess at their shot at a playoff spot possibly trumps the best developmental interests of any one particular player.
      Jokin needs to take his name to heart a bit more me thinks...
    1. MWLFan's Avatar
      MWLFan -
      Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
      Sounds like you have outgrown TD and should move up to a higher league, my brother.
      I think I will stay and play once and awhile. TD is has some great information and the cast of commenters never fails to intrigue me at the seriousness of the convictions they hold in the face of the other commentators who hold the completely opposite view point. And for the most part it is a civil discourse with a good amount of respect.
    1. Han Joelo's Avatar
      Han Joelo -
      I completely agree MWLFan. Just because I don't comment several times a day (or week) doesn't mean I don't enjoy being a part of this community. The daily rant threads are both interesting from a baseball standpoint as well as a sociological perspective.

      Currently, Oswaldo Arcia is beating up on a bunch of younger players at High-A...
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