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  • Vance Worley Demoted to AAA-Rochester

    Immediately following today's 8-3 loss to the Braves, the Twins demoted Opening Day starting pitcher, Vance Worley, to AAA-Rochester. Worley had given up eight runs in 3.2 innings in today's game, raising his ERA to 7.21 on the year. The Twins did not announce a corresponding move, though they have announced that Samuel Deduno will pitch on Friday and has not been called up. However, he will be taking Hernandez' - not Worley's - spot in the rotation.

    Worley joined the Twins this offseason when he was acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies along with pitching prospect Trevor May for outfielder Ben Revere. With the Phillies, Worley had posted 3.50 ERA over 2+ seasons with a 7.7 K/9 ratio. However, his 2012 season had been cut short for elbow surgery to remove bone chips. With the Twins, his K/9 is just 4.6. If he has had any injuries this year, neither he nor the team has revealed them.

    Worley's turn in the rotation would come on Monday the 27th. The Twins have not announced who will ultimately take his place in the rotation. Earlier this week, they chose Deduno over Kyle Gibson, Andrew Albers and PJ Walters to replace Hernandez. Prospect Kyle Gibson, who has thrown two complete game shutouts in his last three outings, was originally scheduled to have his next start in AAA this weekend. If he makes that start, he would not be available for Monday, so that might be an indicator whether the Twins are leaning towards calling him up for his major league debut.
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    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
      I'm not sure I've seen enough consistency out of Gibson since he was passed over for Deduno.
      His performance has been the same every outing since it happened, so he's been very consistent in the last 24 hours or so.....I bet Albers is next.
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      Quote Originally Posted by Wanklenuts View Post
      It almost has to be Gibson, right? They already have to make another move on the 40 man for Deduno on Friday. I doubt they make another move after likely moving Wood to the 60 day DL.
      If we're only looking at 40 man options, then it's Gibson or Hendriks. As far as who gets moved from the 40 man for Deduno?
      Here are a few options:
      B.J. Hermsen (who's struggling in AA and doesn't have much potential)
      Tim Wood
      Tyler Robertson
      Liam Hendriks
      Drew Butera
      Chris Herrmann
      Joe Benson
      Wilkin Ramirez

      Two of those guys would have to be kicked off the 40 man if it's Albers. I think Benson,Hendriks, Herrmann, and Ramirez would be very unlikely. Butera would surprise me a little too, but those guys should all be in line. Probably 2/3 of Robertson, Wood, and Hermsen.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      His performance has been the same every outing since it happened, so he's been very consistent in the last 24 hours or so.....I bet Albers is next.
      What? No PJ love on this board?
    1. Winston Smith's Avatar
      Winston Smith -
      Until Gibson can be consistently bad he doesn't belong in the Twins rotation.
      Consistency or bust!
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      What? No PJ love on this board?
      Besides Innings Pitched, what has PJ done better than Albers so far?
      Minor League track record? Albers. K/9? Albers. WHIP? Albers. ERA? Albers. Walks/9? Albers. Age? Albers.

      They are in the exact same boat roster wise and Andrew has a lot more going for him. I don't see any way Walters would be above Albers or Gibson right now. It's between the last two for the spot.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
      Until Gibson can be consistently bad he doesn't belong in the Twins rotation.
      Consistency or bust!
      Consistently bust, perhaps?
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Hard to complain about the move. He has an option so I understand the decision but I wonder if yesterdays rain delay helped Pelfrey avoid an 8-0 deficit after three and spared him from being exposed to waivers.

      The Rochester rotation is far from exciting outside of Gibson, still, it would at least make things exciting for about two weeks if they just swapped them all out.
    1. whydidnt's Avatar
      whydidnt -
      I keep waiting to hear that Worley has a bum arm or something. There has to be some sort of explanation for how awful he's been this year, doesn't there? I mean even if you account for the change in leagues, it doesn't mean he'd be this bad. Hopefully he can get straightened out by the staff at AAA.
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
      Hard to complain about the move. He has an option so I understand the decision but I wonder if yesterdays rain delay helped Pelfrey avoid an 8-0 deficit after three and spared him from being exposed to waivers.

      The Rochester rotation is far from exciting outside of Gibson, still, it would at least make things exciting for about two weeks if they just swapped them all out.
      I've been speculating that the entire Red Wings rotation is better than Twins'. If Cole DeVries pitches better than it has a chance. Virgil Vasquez would also have to be excluded for Hendriks. That's also counting Deduno as a Red Wing.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Quote Originally Posted by YourHouseIsMyHouse View Post
      I've been speculating that the entire Red Wings rotation is better than Twins'. If Cole DeVries pitches better than it has a chance. Virgil Vasquez would also have to be excluded for Hendriks. That's also counting Deduno as a Red Wing.

      It's possible, begging certain questions about offseason decisions.....
    1. Top Gun's Avatar
      Top Gun -
      Twins optioned RHP Vance Worley to Triple-A Rochester.

      No word yet on whether Kyle Gibson will be the choice to replace him, but don't count it out. The Twins acquired Worley from the Phillies over the winter in hopes that he would be a productive member of the starting rotation, but he has been anything but. After being knocked around for eight runs in 3 2/3 innings Wednesday by the Braves, the 25-year-old has an ugly 7.21 ERA across 10 starts. If Worley can turn things around in the minors, he figures to get another chance soon.
    1. Top Gun's Avatar
      Top Gun -
      Twins transferred OF Darin Mastroianni from the 15-day disabled list to the 60-day disabled list.

      The move clears a spot for Chris Colabello on the 40-man roster. Mastroianni is scheduled to undergo surgery Wednesday to repair a bone chip on his left ankle and will be sidelined until the second half of the season.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      It's possible, begging certain questions about offseason decisions.....
      Yup, Ryan still hasn't learned his lesson. Go big or go home in free agency. Use all of you money on one or two quality players. If you nickle and dime a half dozen guys all you end up doing is paying players free agent prices when you could get the same results from the below average talent in AAA.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Top Gun View Post
      Twins transferred OF Darin Mastroianni from the 15-day disabled list to the 60-day disabled list.

      The move clears a spot for Chris Colabello on the 40-man roster. Mastroianni is scheduled to undergo surgery Wednesday to repair a bone chip on his left ankle and will be sidelined until the second half of the season.
      There's a thread for that.

      http://twinsdaily.com/minnesota-twin...ted-twins.html
    1. 3up3down's Avatar
      3up3down -
      they said before that it came down to gibson, deduno & walters ...supposedly gibson wasnt ready & deduno was better to face the tigers...well nothing has changed since then...deduno was promoted & gibson , walters havent pitched again..so if there reasons were correct then it has to be walters.
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      Quote Originally Posted by YourHouseIsMyHouse View Post
      If we're only looking at 40 man options, then it's Gibson or Hendriks. As far as who gets moved from the 40 man for Deduno?
      Here are a few options:
      B.J. Hermsen (who's struggling in AA and doesn't have much potential)
      Tim Wood
      Tyler Robertson
      Liam Hendriks
      Drew Butera
      Chris Herrmann
      Joe Benson
      Wilkin Ramirez

      Two of those guys would have to be kicked off the 40 man if it's Albers. I think Benson,Hendriks, Herrmann, and Ramirez would be very unlikely. Butera would surprise me a little too, but those guys should all be in line. Probably 2/3 of Robertson, Wood, and Hermsen.
      Pretty sure Hendriks is hurt. It won't be him.
    1. Twins Daily Admin's Avatar
      Twins Daily Admin -
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    1. gil4's Avatar
      gil4 -
      I didn't know Worley still had optiions left. It doesn't solve the problem, but at least the paperwork is easier.
    1. fairweather's Avatar
      fairweather -
      Worley down. Big Pelf is next.
    1. dwintheiser's Avatar
      dwintheiser -
      I suspect the Twins are waiting to hear from Worley's agent as to whether or not he'll accept the assignment (his option was exercised by the Phillies in his rookie year).

      It seems unlikely he'll decline the assignment, but if he does, that opens a spot on the 40-man; otherwise, he'll likely just be replaced on the 25-man.
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