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    Reports from Puerto Rico suggest that Twins prospect Eddie Rosario has tested positive for a banned substance and could cost him a 50-game suspension in 2014.

    While the reports are still unconfirmed, according to an article in Sport LivePR from November 18, Rosario had informed his winter league team that he tested positive in a recent MLB drug test. According to Frankie Thon, the general manager of the team Rosario plays for, Rosario reportedly took some pills during his arm rehabilitation that were on the banned list. Thon also said that Rosario would be allowed to play in the offseason league due to a new agreement between the MLB and the winter leagues.

    Here is the explanation from the article through Google translation:

    The General Manager of the Indians, Frankie Thon, explained how he heard the news. "Eddie Rosario called me three days ago, I had some bad news, which was positive in this test question that supposedly hurt his arm and took some pills and was positive to some kind of 'drug'. It has 50 sets of suspension and understood that he could not play Winter League, "said Thon.
    Rosario spoke with the Puerto Rican website elnuevodia.com and said he was informed of the failed test after playing in the Arizona Fall League. The article also stated that his lawyers are currently appealing the suspension but Rosario believed there is little chance that the decision will be overturned.

    Rosario also said that the pills he took were they same kind he had taken in 2011 after he was struck in the face with a line drive while in Class A Beloit.

    The Twins outfield/second base prospect, who was recently named as Baseball Prospectus’ seventh rated prospect in the system, his coming off a solid year in which he hit .302/.350/.460 with 10 home runs and 32 doubles split between New Britain and Fort Myers.

    There is no official word on Rosario’s status from the Minnesota Twins.
    Comments 46 Comments
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Why is a ballplayer practicing medicine in the first place?
    1. Halsey Hall's Avatar
      Halsey Hall -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Will it? Minor leaguers don't exactly make that much, I'm guessing it will cost him about 10k tops.
      Right. And he'll be stuck there that much longer, setting back is call up time.
    1. Halsey Hall's Avatar
      Halsey Hall -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Why is a ballplayer practicing medicine in the first place?
      They've been doing it for years. A friend of mine's kid pitched for the Twins in the minors, hurt his arm, and was told by both Radke and Milton to take steroids to heal.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by Halsey Hall View Post
      They've been doing it for years. A friend of mine's kid pitched for the Twins in the minors, hurt his arm, and was told by both Radke and Milton to take steroids to heal.
      This is a very slippery slope... a friend of mine's kid, steroids, radke, etc.
    1. Jdosen's Avatar
      Jdosen -
      Frustrating, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not the worst thing that could have happened. When I saw on Twitter "Twins top prospect test positive" (paraphrasing), I was horrified it was one of the big 3, but thank goodness it's not. Obviously you'd like to avoid this thing, but better this year than later on. And better to have it happen before the season starts than in the belly of the beast. He will still get a big-league invite to ST and get all that work in, no?
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Well, that sucks. He was a guy I was really excited to see next year.

      Sometimes you never know what will derail a kid's timeline, it's why you can't count on these things.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
      It certainly bumps back his timeline. I doubt we'll see him at Target Field this year now. I also don't doubt that when he returns from his 50-game suspension that he starts the season back in New Britain.
      I think that was happening anyway... This certain makes that all but official.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      I think that was happening anyway... This certain makes that all but official.
      It is official. Even for a day. When you are suspended you have to start the season at the level you were. I think that was the reason that Vargas missed have season. He had to start at E-town instead of Beloit...
    1. big dog's Avatar
      big dog -
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
      It is official. Even for a day. When you are suspended you have to start the season at the level you were. I think that was the reason that Vargas missed have season. He had to start at E-town instead of Beloit...
      Thanks, that's interesting- quite a substantial penalty in his case.

      It's amazing how players don't think about how they have to have these supplements, etc approved. I heard a report from one camp, I believe the Twins but don't remember for sure, that said they do everything they can to tell people that every single thing they take has to be approved by trainers, then they still find players taking stuff their cousin recommends, etc. It must really be frustrating for the organizations.
    1. maxisagod's Avatar
      maxisagod -
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
      It is official. Even for a day. When you are suspended you have to start the season at the level you were. I think that was the reason that Vargas missed have season. He had to start at E-town instead of Beloit...
      Well, That's half right. Vargas didn't go back to Etown in 2012, he went to Beloit right after his suspension ended. But in Vargas case, since he was caught in a short season league, His suspension couldn't resume until after the Appalachian league started up again, making it a much longer suspension than just 50 games.
    1. jorgenswest's Avatar
      jorgenswest -
      In Vargas' case, he couldn't start serving his 50 until the Elizbethton season started in June effectively lengthening his suspension. Once served, he started in Beloit. Rosario could and should start in AAA once he serves his suspension.
    1. maxisagod's Avatar
      maxisagod -
      Once this is officially confirmed, I expect the Twins organization to be very supportive, yet very firm. This means no big league camp invite, no spring training games with the big club, maybe no minor league games against other clubs too. After the suspension is done, I predict they'll send him to AA, even if for only two weeks, before a AAA promotion. All the while reassuring him he's in the teams long term plans. A September call up next year is still a possibility.
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jorgenswest View Post
      In Vargas' case, he couldn't start serving his 50 until the Elizbethton season started in June effectively lengthening his suspension. Once served, he started in Beloit. Rosario could and should start in AAA once he serves his suspension.
      He's a good prospect but what has he done to deserve a promotion after a 1/2 season in AA? I have posted longer responses in other threads about Rosario but you seem to ignore them.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Today the Puerto Rican press published an interview with Rosario. You can read details here.

      According to him, the substance he tested positive for was in a pill he took to treat pain in his throwing arm. Also, it was the same substance he took (and was prescribed to him) to treat the pain when he was hit on the face by a pitch when in Beloit. No PEDs. "Street drug" likely prescription painkillers. That one should take as is ok to take with a prescription and likely he did no have on this time. He is appealing so we will see where this will go...

      No PEDs
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by kab21 View Post
      I have posted longer responses in other threads about Rosario but you seem to ignore them.
      Attachment 6057
    1. beyondclarity's Avatar
      beyondclarity -
      I'm kinda glad this happened because I feel Rosario is a commodity we'd regret trading. This should diminish his trade value in the near term and force the Twins to hold onto him.
    1. Trevor0333's Avatar
      Trevor0333 -
      Quote Originally Posted by beyondclarity View Post
      I'm kinda glad this happened because I feel Rosario is a commodity we'd regret trading. This should diminish his trade value in the near term and force the Twins to hold onto him.

      I was worried they would move him too & feel the same, especially considering
      its for painkillers & not PEDS
    1. Vzltwins's Avatar
      Vzltwins -
      They don't have to start where they ended. In the case of Vargas the rule was he had to wait until the E-Twins started their season to continue the clock on his suspension.
    1. Steve Penz's Avatar
      Steve Penz -
      Does anybody have any more developments with this? Info available on the internet through normal channels is no different than last week. I am wondering if MLB has said anything about a timeframe for investigation. Also, if these are painkillers that he took before, was he just lucky in that he did not get caught or is there more to it?
    1. Twins Twerp's Avatar
      Twins Twerp -
      I would bet that it wasn't pain killers. To "heal faster" which I have seen in articles about the alleged failed test, you would have to take some sort of HGH or other type of synthetic hormone. For all we know, it could have been a "pill" you get at GNC like a test boost.
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