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  • Twins Trade Doumit to Braves

    This afternoon, the Twins made a trade with the Atlanta Braves. The Twins sent catcher/DH/outfielder Ryan Doumit to Atlanta in exchange for LHP Sean Gilmartin.

    The Braves will take on the entire $3.5 million of Doumit's 2014 contract which helps the Twins as they look to continue adding players. It also opens up a 40 man roster spot because Gilmartin is not yet on the that roster.

    Doumit came to the Twins before the 2012 season. In his first season, he hit .275/.320/.461 with 34 doubles, 18 homers and 75 RBI. In 2013, he dropped to .247/.314/.396 with 28 doubles, 14 homers and 55 RBI. He spent time as the team's backup catcher, but also was a primary designated hitter and spent some time in the corner outfield positions.

    He did miss time with concussion symptoms in the 2013 season and has talked about wanted to not catch (or at least catch less often) which makes the move to the National League interesting.

    The Twins had great interest in Sean Gilmartin before the 2011 draft. He was taken with the 28th overall pick in the draft, two picks before the Twins selected Levi Michael.

    Gilmartin, a 23 year old who went to Florida State, moved up the Braves system quickly. Last year, he made 17 starts for AAA Gwinnett. He went 3-8 with a 5.75 ERA, though he missed time with injury. He will not need to be added to the 40 man roster until after the 2014 season. Here is a huge scouting report on Gilmartin.

    Gilmartin graduated from Crespi Carmelite HS in Encino, California. That is the same high school that Twins third baseman Trevor Plouffe is from.

    When the Twins signed Jason Kubel last week to a minor league contract, the writing was on the wall that Doumit would likely be traded. The two are really DHs who can play in the corner outfield spots.

    With the $3.5 million saved, the Twins could continue their search for more starting pitching or they could turn their attention to the offense.

    The Twins busy, exciting offseason continues to be eventful! What's next?
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    1. biggentleben's Avatar
      biggentleben -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pius Jefferson View Post
      I can't help but ask what the Braves know about Gilmarten that they are willing to dump him off for only Ryan Doumit?
      Should say something when beat guys are saying good trade to move him for Doumit and cash (though the amount is still not clear).
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
      Sorry, I was thinking more along the lines of signing Suzuki or Buck. (I didn't make that clear).
      Doumit already said he wouldn't catch this year regardless, right?
    1. zenser's Avatar
      zenser -
      Does this amp up the search for a catcher now? How soon will they sign a John Buck or Kurt Suzuki?
    1. notoriousgod71's Avatar
      notoriousgod71 -
      I haven't looked at his stats since being drafted but it's funny because Gilmartin was my prediction (along with many others) to be the Twins draft choice prior to the 2011 draft.

      And now looking at his stats it's obvious he fits everything that the Twins look for in a pitcher.

      More hits than IP? Check.

      Few BB? Check.

      Mediocre K rate? Check.

      Fastball velocity under 95? Check.

      Why even bother? If he's anything more than Nick Blackburn (or Scott Diamond since they're both lefties and from the Braves organization) I'll be shocked.

      I realize Doumit has no value but he is a carbon copy of 99 percent of the pitchers in this organization.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      One of the best things about this to me is that being drafted in 2011, Gilmartin shouldn't require a 40 man spot. I'm not big on soft-tossing lefties, but I'm just fine getting rid of the Twins expendable players in exchange for guys who are only one year removed from positive endorsements.
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      I'm glad to offload Doumit, but this Gilmartin guy looks like AAA filler, another Pedro Hernandez at best. My opinion of the trade - "Meh".
    1. halfchest's Avatar
      halfchest -
      Quote Originally Posted by biggentleben View Post
      I'm not sure you guys have a grip on how bad Gilmartin has become. Think Alex Wimmers from the left side.
      Really? That doesn't make any sense. The only thing they have in common is they were 1st round picks expected to fast track to the majors. Wimmers has 77 career minor league innings over just over 3 years. Gilmartin has 285 over just over 2 years. Now he's not someone to get overly excited about but at least has potential to be a big league starter still. Was the Braves top 5 guy a year ago. I'm not gonna let one bad year for a 23 year old make me think he's worthless. Better return than I would have ever expected for Doumit.
    1. PseudoSABR's Avatar
      PseudoSABR -
      Darren Wolfson ‏@DarrenWolfson 8m Confirmed: #Braves taking all of Doumit's $3.5M. This is a great move by the #MNTwins.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      According to espn, Gilmartin isn't on the 40-man roster. This means the Twins won't have to DFA anyone to put Pelfrey on the 40-man. Gilmartin, Albers, Diamond, and Johnson all look like the same guy to me.
    1. JB_Iowa's Avatar
      JB_Iowa -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Doumit already said he wouldn't catch this year regardless, right?
      I think it was Parker (or one of the other main TD guys) who posted something in the last day or so quoting Doumit's agent as saying he wanted to catch in 2014.

      I've got to think that they are very close to signing either Suzuki or Buck. I'd think that they'd want to clear up the Doumit situation before they signed one of them. But it also doesn't escape me that Braves execs have been in the TC in the last few days touring Target Field so that may have more to do with the timing than anything.

      EDIT: And GREAT POINT stringerbell about clearing space for Pelfrey.
    1. PseudoSABR's Avatar
      PseudoSABR -
      Have to think maybe Albers and even Diamond are on sketchy ground, after the Twins acquired a non-roster clone...
    1. biggentleben's Avatar
      biggentleben -
      Quote Originally Posted by PseudoSABR View Post
      Sure, but if the Braves just traded Doumit and his contract back to the Twins for Wimmers, you'd certainly be hyped the Braves obtained a buy low former first rounder, no matter how remote that ceiling is or how distant that prospect status in the past.
      Oy, no. Not at all. I may love the Braves, but I don't love every move they make and every guy wearing their uniform. I'm not a Doumit fan at all, but I'm not a Gilmartin fan at all either, so it's a wash for me, I guess.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      In exchange for a guy they had no room for, that they were paying millions of dollars, who would not be on the roster after next year, on a team that wants to sign more FAs and have a full 40 man roster........that team got even a AAA player for that guy? Good trade, even if Gilmartin never gets out of AAA.
    1. zchrz's Avatar
      zchrz -
      I would think Diamond is gone for sure with the addition of Gilmartin and Johnson, so Deduno for the 5th spot if hes healthy and Worley to the pen?
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Quote Originally Posted by notoriousgod71 View Post
      I haven't looked at his stats since being drafted but it's funny because Gilmartin was my prediction (along with many others) to be the Twins draft choice prior to the 2011 draft.

      And now looking at his stats it's obvious he fits everything that the Twins look for in a pitcher.

      More hits than IP? Check.

      Few BB? Check.

      Mediocre K rate? Check.

      Fastball velocity under 95? Check.

      Why even bother? If he's anything more than Nick Blackburn (or Scott Diamond since they're both lefties and from the Braves organization) I'll be shocked.

      I realize Doumit has no value but he is a carbon copy of 99 percent of the pitchers in this organization.
      I would have given Doumit away to clear roster space, I'm not sure what the gripe is. I'm not a Gilmartin fan, but still I love this. Just because I don't think the guy has much of a ceiling, I can recognize that others see his potential. Besides, getting a pitcher who made it to AAA in only two professional years seems more impressive than the Twins stable of pitchers who took closer to a decade to get there.

      Besides, Jonathan Mayo still ranks him the Braves #4 prospect. That seems high to me but so what? The Twins are lucky to get a top #15 prospect for Doumit.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Looks like a good trade to me, everyone likes it except the Braves fan.
      I think the Wimmers crack is a little ridiculous personally. He is still only 23, his 2012 wasn't bad and he had a rough 2013. Perfect buy low move.

      You can never have enough pitching! At the very least he adds org depth, at best he becomes Scott Diamond lite if needed (or if Diamond hits arb)
    1. biggentleben's Avatar
      biggentleben -
      Quote Originally Posted by halfchest View Post
      Really? That doesn't make any sense. The only thing they have in common is they were 1st round picks expected to fast track to the majors. Wimmers has 77 career minor league innings over just over 3 years. Gilmartin has 285 over just over 2 years. Now he's not someone to get overly excited about but at least has potential to be a big league starter still. Was the Braves top 5 guy a year ago. I'm not gonna let one bad year for a 23 year old make me think he's worthless. Better return than I would have ever expected for Doumit.
      Not sure who had him top 5, but it would be someone who valued "close to majors" over "upside". The comparison is apt as Gilmartin has lost a LOT from the guy he was pre-draft as has Wimmers.
    1. Pius Jefferson's Avatar
      Pius Jefferson -
      What about the possibility of Gilmartin to the bullpen and trading Duensing for offense?
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by notoriousgod71 View Post
      I haven't looked at his stats since being drafted but it's funny because Gilmartin was my prediction (along with many others) to be the Twins draft choice prior to the 2011 draft.

      And now looking at his stats it's obvious he fits everything that the Twins look for in a pitcher.

      More hits than IP? Check.

      Few BB? Check.

      Mediocre K rate? Check.

      Fastball velocity under 95? Check.

      Why even bother? If he's anything more than Nick Blackburn (or Scott Diamond since they're both lefties and from the Braves organization) I'll be shocked.

      I realize Doumit has no value but he is a carbon copy of 99 percent of the pitchers in this organization.
      FWIW: Blackburn gave the Twins 5.4 WAR over two years, and Diamond gave them a 2.3 WAR a year ago. If he equals either one of those guys it would be a great thing frankly. One or two years as a CHEAP #5 has value. (It can allow you to not sign veterans for $5-$6 mil to fill those spots)
    1. Steve Lein's Avatar
      Steve Lein -
      Interesting, I thought the Twins would draft him in 2011 if he was there, but was grabbed a few spots in front of them.

      I actually like the return, though Gilmartin has far from lived up to his 1st round pedigree. It's always good to have some lefty options though, especially for the Twins right now.
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