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  • Twins Trade Doumit to Braves

    This afternoon, the Twins made a trade with the Atlanta Braves. The Twins sent catcher/DH/outfielder Ryan Doumit to Atlanta in exchange for LHP Sean Gilmartin.

    The Braves will take on the entire $3.5 million of Doumit's 2014 contract which helps the Twins as they look to continue adding players. It also opens up a 40 man roster spot because Gilmartin is not yet on the that roster.

    Doumit came to the Twins before the 2012 season. In his first season, he hit .275/.320/.461 with 34 doubles, 18 homers and 75 RBI. In 2013, he dropped to .247/.314/.396 with 28 doubles, 14 homers and 55 RBI. He spent time as the team's backup catcher, but also was a primary designated hitter and spent some time in the corner outfield positions.

    He did miss time with concussion symptoms in the 2013 season and has talked about wanted to not catch (or at least catch less often) which makes the move to the National League interesting.

    The Twins had great interest in Sean Gilmartin before the 2011 draft. He was taken with the 28th overall pick in the draft, two picks before the Twins selected Levi Michael.

    Gilmartin, a 23 year old who went to Florida State, moved up the Braves system quickly. Last year, he made 17 starts for AAA Gwinnett. He went 3-8 with a 5.75 ERA, though he missed time with injury. He will not need to be added to the 40 man roster until after the 2014 season. Here is a huge scouting report on Gilmartin.

    Gilmartin graduated from Crespi Carmelite HS in Encino, California. That is the same high school that Twins third baseman Trevor Plouffe is from.

    When the Twins signed Jason Kubel last week to a minor league contract, the writing was on the wall that Doumit would likely be traded. The two are really DHs who can play in the corner outfield spots.

    With the $3.5 million saved, the Twins could continue their search for more starting pitching or they could turn their attention to the offense.

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    Comments 203 Comments
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      Quote Originally Posted by notoriousgod71 View Post
      I haven't looked at his stats since being drafted but it's funny because Gilmartin was my prediction (along with many others) to be the Twins draft choice prior to the 2011 draft.

      And now looking at his stats it's obvious he fits everything that the Twins look for in a pitcher.

      More hits than IP? Check.

      Few BB? Check.

      Mediocre K rate? Check.

      Fastball velocity under 95? Check.

      Why even bother? If he's anything more than Nick Blackburn (or Scott Diamond since they're both lefties and from the Braves organization) I'll be shocked.

      I realize Doumit has no value but he is a carbon copy of 99 percent of the pitchers in this organization.
      He's probably a carbon copy of 95% of pitchers in the minors.

      That said, I don't see the concern. I'd have been suprised if we had gotten more for Doumit if he had a bounce back season. Not to mention that this helps out the 40 man situation.

      As well, the kid is a 1st rounder from 2011. I get that he hasn't blossomed the way people would want, but injuries can do that too, and it's quite possible that our staff sees something else. I'm willing to give TR the benefit of the doubt here, as I highly doubt Doumit that 2012 Doumit with 2014's contract would have gotten much else at the deadline.
    1. minn55441's Avatar
      minn55441 -
      I like the move. Gilmartin's numbers got progressively worse as he moved up, but he is still only 23. Can't ever have too many young, left handed starters.
    1. Musk21's Avatar
      Musk21 -
      Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 4m Part of reason Twins clearing money is to add another starting pitcher (Bronson Arroyo?)
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by notoriousgod71 View Post
      Good pitching is at a premium. I couldn't care less if that fifth, sixth, seventh starter is Diamond, Gilmartin, Johnson, etc. They're all the same guy.

      As an explanation I don't hate the trade (even though it likely appears that way). I just find it pointless and yes, I'd rather have Doumit.
      According to Mayo over at MLB.com he has the potential to be middle of the rotation guy. He is coming off an injury filled year and is still pretty young. FWIW he was listed as the #4 prospect by him heading into 2014, and BA #10 is nothing to sleep on as well.

      Is he an Alex Meyer type prospect? Of course not, but he is a legit one at this point, and for getting that for Doumit is a no brainer and a huge win.
    1. Chance's Avatar
      Chance -
      I like the move. The kid might need to spend the year in AAA and show he can pitch there first, but moving Doumit for a guy that ranked 4-10 in his organization is a no-brainer. We have plenty of players that have Doumit potential but need to have his playing time to show it.
    1. PseudoSABR's Avatar
      PseudoSABR -
      Quote Originally Posted by Musk21 View Post
      Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 4m Part of reason Twins clearing money is to add another starting pitcher (Bronson Arroyo?)
      I saw that too. Is that Buster's opinion? Or does he have a source? I hate ambiguous tweeting.
    1. MileHighTwinsFan's Avatar
      MileHighTwinsFan -
      The plot thickens about catcher for next year.

      Seems like they have to find a veteran and am wondering now if it will go beyond the free agent market to a possible trade to get a reliable back up, who could take on the regular catching duties if Pinto is not able to carry the load. Not sure John Buck fits the bill anymore.
    1. DAM DC Twins Fans's Avatar
      DAM DC Twins Fans -
      Great move--basically a salary dump. Also opens up a spot on the 40 man for Pelfrey. We get another lefty to compete with the guy we got for Morneau for a spot on the 40 man. Also opens up the LH bench spot for Kubel who at least can play a little OF defense.
    1. twinsfan34's Avatar
      twinsfan34 -
      I like the move as well. Gets ride of Doumit and opens up a possible addition to the big club, if not Gilmartin.
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Musk21 View Post
      Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 4m Part of reason Twins clearing money is to add another starting pitcher (Bronson Arroyo?)
      Clear roster space maybe, why would they need to clear money? They have plenty left to spend.

      I like the Doumit trade personally, he's redundant. Gilmartin may prove to be as well but at 23 at least there is potential to have a useful player down the road.
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      Quote Originally Posted by biggentleben View Post
      Was joking about Gilmartin, but his toe jam may be more valuable than Gilmartin himself. This isn't good for either team.
      Not good for MN? Cleared $3.5M off the books, which could get Suzuki easily and you got a LHP who was rushed in the minors. The Twins will probably start him at AA where he belongs and let him gain some confidence before a promotion.
    1. markos's Avatar
      markos -
      At the very least, Gilmartin has solid bullpen potential.

      Lefties against Gilmartin the past two seasons:
      2013 - .219/.252/.383
      2012 - .185/.217/.289

      Even in 2013 when he was terrible overall and supposedly injured, he shut down lefties.
    1. MileHighTwinsFan's Avatar
      MileHighTwinsFan -
      The plot thickens about catcher for next year.

      Seems like they have to find a veteran and am wondering now if it will go beyond the free agent market to a possible trade to get a reliable back up, who could take on the regular catching duties if Pinto is not able to carry the load. Not sure John Buck fits the bill anymore.
    1. johnnydakota's Avatar
      johnnydakota -
      I like this move from Atlanta side, they identified a prospect who had no real value for them and found a taker, a year early from having to be protected....As for the Twins side they cleared up some 40 man space, and brought payroll back down to 2013 level, but they got a poor mans diamond in this soft tossing controll pitcher, topping out at 89 mph and working mostly in the 87-88 mph range .So basically we gave away an asset for nothing
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmb0252 View Post
      An AAAA pitcher, roster spot, and $3.5M off the books. Solid trade.
      How is he a AAAA pitcher? He was rushed by the Braves and with a little time he could be a back end of the rotation guy or a solid lefty in the pen. I will agree with the solid trade part for sure.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      But when he's on, he's 89-92 with the fastball, slider between 79-81 and a good change up. He was hurt some in 2013, so he could turn it around... Looks like the Braves moved him up too quickly.
    1. Steve Penz's Avatar
      Steve Penz -
      Any negativity on this is confusing. Out- 3.5 million dollars, redundancy at C/OF/DH, and a player who will not play any part in the future. In- a young LHP with at least a possibility of an upside.

      Also, I believe this moves the 40-man to 39.

      This is nothing but good.
    1. ashburyjohn's Avatar
      ashburyjohn -
      Doumit? Great trade!

      (Who'd we get?)
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      HUGE thumbs up for this.
    1. Winston Smith's Avatar
      Winston Smith -
      Good deal. We have enough DH types and Doumit really doesn't have a position he can even play ok in.
      Not really sure what the Braves are thinking doing this.
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