• TD Top Prospects: #5 Eddie Rosario

    Eddie Rosario's path through the Minnesota Twins farm system has directly mirrored that of Miguel Sano. When Rosario was the Twins 4th round pick in 2010 out of Puerto Rico, he spent the summer as Sano’s teammate in the GCL. The next summer, the two put up incredible numbers at Elizabethton. Rosario led the league in most categories including home runs and was named the league’s Most Valuable Player. They were together in Beloit in 2012. In 2013, the two started in Ft. Myers before being promoted to New Britain on the same day. No wonder that a player who has hit .307/.358/.510 (.867) over his four-year minor league career is often overlooked and overshadowed.

    Of course, as spring training is soon to begin, there is another, darker shadow Rosario will need to overcome.

    The Good


    Eddie Rosario is an offensive talent. Listed at just 6-0 and 175 pounds, Rosario has incredible quick and strong hands and can generate a lot of bat speed. Though he has never approached the 21 home runs he hit in the small parks of the Appalachian League, he is capable of 12 to 15 home runs a year. He profiles as a guy whose line drive swing will turn into a lot of doubles. He has very good speed and can turn doubles into triples.

    Because he has such quick hands, he is able to allow the ball to travel a little deeper over the plate. At his best, he is drilling line drives to the opposite field. However, he has the ability to turn on a good fastball and pull it a long way.

    Rosario has very good speed. He also is a terrific defensive outfielder,including the ability to play centerfield, with good range and a very strong arm.

    The Bad


    Rosario is a very good defensive outfielder but for the last two years he has been primarily playing second base. You see, two years ago at this time, the Twins lacked any second base prospects, so they took the athletic outfielder and moved him to second base. The transition has not affected Rosario's offensive output. To be fair, there have been mixed reports on Rosario’s defense. Playing on the major league caliber infield of Hammond Stadium in Ft. Myers, most reports called Rosario’s defense adequate. Other reports indicate that Rosario is unlikely to ever be anywhere near an adequate defensive second baseman. Of course, his perceived value (relative to his position) would be much higher as a second baseman than as a corner outfielder.

    Rosario tends to put together some quality at-bats, though he is not one who wants to walk. In MLB in 2013, the average Isolated Discipline (IsoD, on base percentage minus batting average) was 0.065. Rosario’s was 0.060 at Elizabethton, but at every other level his IsoD was between 0.046 and 0.049.

    As mentioned, Rosario has good speed. In his two rookie league stops, he stole 38 bases in 50 attempts (78%). However, the last two seasons, in full-season leagues, he is just 21 of 42 in steal attempts, a rate of just 50%.

    The Ugly


    Obviously there is one topic that has to be addressed when talking about Eddie Rosario. Last month, he was given a 50-game suspension for testing positive for a drug of abuse. The 50 game suspension means it was his second positive test. The bigger concern is not so much the suspension. In my mind, the concern is that he had the first test, knew what a second failed test would mean, and still did it. A 50 game suspension is a slowing down of his development. Sure, he played another 70 or so games this past offseason between the Arizona Fall League and the Puerto Rican Winter League. His winter team finished second in the Caribbean Series this past weekend. The frustration is simply be that it was unnecessary.

    The suspension is obviously not ideal. Hopefully losing game time will make him think and realize the opportunity he has. His prospect status, as a 22-year-old who has put up tremendous numbers, should not be altered by the suspension. His future remains as bright as ever.

    Rosario also missed a few games in 2013 at Ft. Myers after being benched by Manager Doug Mientkiewicz.

    Rosario is incredibly talented, especially as a hitter. He has been included in some national Top 100 lists this offseason and is likely right on the border of those in which he didn’t make the list. As a second baseman, his offense has the potential to stand out a little.

    On the field, 2013 was a good year for Rosario. He began with 52 games in Ft. Myers. He hit .329/.377/.527 (.903) with 13 doubles, five triples and six home runs. Like Sano, the day after the Miracle clinched the first-half title, Rosario was promoted to New Britain. In 70 games with the Rock Cats, he hit .284/.330/.412 with 19 doubles, three triples and four home runs. That all came after being named to the Puerto Rican WBC team in which he started half the games in left field.

    2014 is going to be an interesting year for Rosario and the Twins second base depth. Brian Dozier is looking to show that his performance starting in late May is something he can sustain. Rosario will miss 50 games before likely heading back to New Britain, probably after a handful of games in Ft. Myers. On his heels is Jorge Polanco, another Top 10 Twins middle infield prospect.

    Previous 2014 Twins Daily Top Twins Prospects:


    #10 – Trevor May
    #9 – Lewis Thorpe
    #8 – Jorge Polanco
    #7 – Josmil Pinto
    #6 – Jose Berrios
    #5 – Eddie Rosario
    Comments 49 Comments
    1. Miraclemat's Avatar
      Miraclemat -
      It probably has been noted and I have missed it......does anyone know specifically what the drug was he was suspended over? PED? Weed? TY
    1. huhguy's Avatar
      huhguy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Miraclemat View Post
      It probably has been noted and I have missed it......does anyone know specifically what the drug was he was suspended over? PED? Weed? TY
      it was Rosario and Arcia in Elizabethton, when Rosario hit more HRs is Arcia wh you are comparing with?
    1. tobi0040's Avatar
      tobi0040 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Miraclemat View Post
      It probably has been noted and I have missed it......does anyone know specifically what the drug was he was suspended over? PED? Weed? TY
      I believe mlb has two classifications, performance enhanching and drug of abuse. From there they don't go into detail. this was a drug of abuse (recreational)
    1. Twins Twerp's Avatar
      Twins Twerp -
      I believe it was black tar heroin. I could be mistaken.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Twins Twerp View Post
      I believe it was black tar heroin. I could be mistaken.
      Eddie Rosario, star of the upcoming documentary "The Baseball Diaries".
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Quote Originally Posted by huhguy View Post
      it was Rosario and Arcia in Elizabethton, when Rosario hit more HRs is Arcia wh you are comparing with?
      No, it's always been Sano and Rosario. They've been like Batman and Robin their whole trip through the system. Arcia was always ahead of them a level or two.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Eddie Rosario, star of the upcoming documentary "The Baseball Diaries".
      I thought it was meth and he was going to be the star of a new show called "Breaking Bats"
    1. johnnydakota's Avatar
      johnnydakota -
      Quote Originally Posted by Twins Twerp View Post
      I believe it was black tar heroin. I could be mistaken.
      Joking or for real? if it true, the Twins need to dump him as soon as posible or put him in a 9 month treatment facility
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Big believer....big fan. He's a long term MLB starter. I think he possibly pushes Dozier to be dealt in the next year or two. Or, if Hicks fails, he's your starting LFer.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by huhguy View Post
      it was Rosario and Arcia in Elizabethton, when Rosario hit more HRs is Arcia wh you are comparing with?
      Here are the E-Town numbers from the big three. Rosario and Sano played in E-Town in 2011. Arcia was there in 2010.

      In 2011:

      Eddie Rosario hit .337/.397/.670 (1.068) with 9 doubles, 9 triples, 21 homers and 60 RBI.

      Miguel Sano hit .292/.352/.637 (.988) with 18 doubles, 7 triples, 20 homers and 59 RBI.

      In 2010:

      Oswaldo Arcia hit .375/.424/.672 (1.096) with 21 doubles, 7 triples, 14 homers and 51 RBI.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
      Joking or for real? if it true, the Twins need to dump him as soon as posible or put him in a 9 month treatment facility
      Clearly a joke. I'm pretty confident in saying that Eddie Rosario is not a purveyor or fan of black tar heroin.
    1. johnnydakota's Avatar
      johnnydakota -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Clearly a joke. I'm pretty confident in saying that Eddie Rosario is not a purveyor or fan of black tar heroin.
      thanks....
      In this game you never know, was it Doc Ellis of the Pirates who pitched a world series game on LSD? or the Yankee relief Pitcher Howe(?) who was suspended 7 times for cocain abuse?
    1. DaneDiggy's Avatar
      DaneDiggy -
      Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
      thanks....
      In this game you never know, was it Doc Ellis of the Pirates who pitched a world series game on LSD? or the Yankee relief Pitcher Howe(?) who was suspended 7 times for cocain abuse?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
    1. halfchest's Avatar
      halfchest -
      Quote Originally Posted by Miraclemat View Post
      It probably has been noted and I have missed it......does anyone know specifically what the drug was he was suspended over? PED? Weed? TY
      What I believe I heard was it was considered a "drug of abuse" however the story I read was that it was a painkiller he had previously been approved to take. When he was in pain again he took it again but without a prescription therefore it was considered a drug of abuse in this scenario. Hopefully was just an honest mistake, maybe this was just a bs coverup story to keep him from looking bad. That is what I remember reading awhile back though.
    1. Teddy's Avatar
      Teddy -
      Quote Originally Posted by halfchest View Post
      What I believe I heard was it was considered a "drug of abuse" however the story I read was that it was a painkiller he had previously been approved to take. When he was in pain again he took it again but without a prescription therefore it was considered a drug of abuse in this scenario. Hopefully was just an honest mistake, maybe this was just a bs coverup story to keep him from looking bad. That is what I remember reading awhile back though.
      Yeah, there's a story in the PP wherein he claims he took pain killers:

      http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_2...ame-suspension
    1. tobi0040's Avatar
      tobi0040 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      Here are the E-Town numbers from the big three. Rosario and Sano played in E-Town in 2011. Arcia was there in 2010.

      In 2011:

      Eddie Rosario hit .337/.397/.670 (1.068) with 9 doubles, 9 triples, 21 homers and 60 RBI.

      Miguel Sano hit .292/.352/.637 (.988) with 18 doubles, 7 triples, 20 homers and 59 RBI.

      In 2010:

      Oswaldo Arcia hit .375/.424/.672 (1.096) with 21 doubles, 7 triples, 14 homers and 51 RBI.
      I think Rosario will ultimately be traded because I think he will have more value in another organization. He provides the most value at 2B, then CF, then a corner OF spot.

      It seems the consensus is he is unlikely to stick at 2B for defensive reasons. His bat profiles as above average at CF, but it is very unlikely he beats out Buxton. And .280-.290, 10-14 HR, and 25-30 2B is at best an average corner outfielder offensively (although above average defensively). I agree with his prospect ranking here at #5 regardless.
    1. oldguy10's Avatar
      oldguy10 -
      Even though the consensus is about his ability or not to be a decent second baseman should not this be properly determined by Twins' field management and arrived at early on this spring while also taking into account his suspension and what that could ultimately mean in future seasons?
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      I don't think there is any consensus he can't stick at 2B. He's been doing it for only 2 years.

      I don't get how being an "average" corner OF is not valuable to this team. Arcia might be best as a DH. Or maybe Hicks can't hit at all. Or maybe both!

      The only way I'd trade him is for an elite arm, or an elite SS.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      I don't think there is any consensus he can't stick at 2B. He's been doing it for only 2 years.

      I don't get how being an "average" corner OF is not valuable to this team. Arcia might be best as a DH. Or maybe Hicks can't hit at all. Or maybe both!

      The only way I'd trade him is for an elite arm, or an elite SS.
      Robinson Cano started out his minor league career at the opposite end of the fielding spectrum @ SS, and a little 3B, before moving him full-time to 2B in his 3rd professional year. 2 years and a month more in the minors at the position, he still struggled the first few years, and it's fair to say he grew into the position.

      Rosario may never have the glove that Cano has, but his career thus far at the plate makes it extra-desirable to see how this experiment plays out, as he could definitely become an MLB top-5 offensive Second Baseman based on the #s below, and Dozier would be the one traded instead.

      Compare the Minor League numbers of Cano and Rosario, both are 6' and similarly built, and imagine Rosario, when he puts on the 20 additional pounds of muscle that Robbie currently plays with:

      Cano (5 years Minor League): .278/.337/.425/.756
      Rosario (4 years Mi. League): .307/.358/.510/.867
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Clearly a joke. I'm pretty confident in saying that Eddie Rosario is not a purveyor or fan of black tar heroin.
      I think it's weed. He says it was painkillers.
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