• Twins Claim Brooks Raley from Cubs

    According to MLB Trade Rumors (via Mark Gonzales), the Minnesota Twins have claimed left-handed pitcher Brooks Raley from the Chicago Cubs. He takes the 40th roster spot vacated earlier this month by Andrew Albers.

    The lefty was the Cubs 6th round pick in 2009 out of Texas A&M University. He made five starts in 2012 for the Cubs, and made nine relief appearances in 2013. Combined, he has 38.1 MLB innings and sports a 7.04 ERA. Raley is 6-3 and 220 pounds. He is 25 years old.

    Last year in AAA Iowa (of the PCL), he posted a 4.46 ERA over 141.1 innings. He had just 95 strikeouts to go with 45 walks. However, in 2012, he posted a 3.62 ERA in 14 starts in the Pacific Coast League.

    Raley does have a four-pitch mix. He has a fastball that averaged 89 mph last year with the Cubs. He also throws a lot of sliders, usually in the low-80s. He also has a changeup and a curveball.

    Frankly, he sounds an awful lot like Scott Diamond. The 2012 Diamond would be terrific for a team. The 2013 version, maybe not. It's also entirely possible that the Twins will now attempt to pass him through waivers.
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    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by howieramone View Post
      Couldn't have said it better.

      At some point in time last season, a Twins official said lack of lefties is an organizational weakness.

      Since that time we have picked up Sulbaran, Kris Johnson, Gilmartin, and Raley. Small, minute risk moves.
      Based on your list, sans Sulbaran, lack of lefties is still an organizational weakness.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      [QUOTE=Heimer;196225]
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
      The kid is still 25 years old and if i was the GM I would take any young pitcher that has potential to be on the next great Twins Team. Even if the liklyhood is 3 percent.
      Even if they have to send Alex Meyer and a couple of pitchers younger and better than him to New Britain?
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      [QUOTE=Thrylos;196231]
      Quote Originally Posted by Heimer View Post

      Even if they have to send Alex Meyer and a couple of pitchers younger and better than him to New Britain?
      The only thing that makes sense IMO is that the Twins expect Raley to pass through waivers and that they expect that multiple pitchers currently on the roster are not in the longer term plans. ie, Correia will be dealt before the deadline, Deduno in doubt on his health status, Diamond and Worley either dealt for PTBNL or DFAd. That's 5 spots that soon could be opened up right there.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      If they expect one of the main pieces they acquired last year to be DFAd, that does not increase my confidence.....
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      If they expect one of the main pieces they acquired last year to be DFAd, that does not increase my confidence.....
      Has anything happened in the offseason with Worley to upgrade his current Blackburn-like, limbo-status?
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Has anything happened in the offseason with Worley to upgrade his current Blackburn-like, limbo-status?
      Yes. He got healthy, got a workout regiment and showed up minus 25 lbs at Fort Myers.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
      Yes. He got healthy, got a workout regiment and showed up minus 25 lbs at Fort Myers.
      That is really good to hear. A chance at getting his 2011 numbers (ERA+ 127) in the #5 spot in the rotation would be a huge shot in the arm to the rotation. And it gives the Twins more options going forward (like possibly moving Hughes to the bullpen, trading Correia sooner rather than later, trading Worley from a position of strength rather than weakness, trading one of the pitching prospects to fill one of the other holes, etc.).
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      I have to imagine this is Thielbar insurance. Caleb is about 100% likely to see a production decline. If that decline is precipitous than a guy like Raley may come in handy. My guess he gets moved permanant lay to the bullpen down there.
    1. crarko's Avatar
      crarko -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
      permanant lay to the bullpen down there.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4
    1. golfboy1's Avatar
      golfboy1 -
      [QUOTE=jokin;196232]
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post

      The only thing that makes sense IMO is that the Twins expect Raley to pass through waivers and that they expect that multiple pitchers currently on the roster are not in the longer term plans. ie, Correia will be dealt before the deadline, Deduno in doubt on his health status, Diamond and Worley either dealt for PTBNL or DFAd. That's 5 spots that soon could be opened up right there.
      That makes as much sense as anything. His stats are underwhelming but maybe the Twins see something in him as a LOOGY. I'm not impressed by the move but it's much ado about nothing. He will certainly not get in the way of any real prospect & it will not stop the Twins from making any 40 man roster moves.

      He's just another LH guy they are throwing into the mix. Odds are he won't pan out but there is always a chance. A year ago I never would have thought Thielbar would amount to anything & so far he has been an asset.
    1. twinsfanstl's Avatar
      twinsfanstl -
      Hmmm. To me it signals the firing of Anderson. The promotion of Nieto and a player/coach contract to Johan to school this stable of mediocre lefties in the art of the changeup. (Doing my part to get this thread to 5 pages o comments)
    1. John Bonnes's Avatar
      John Bonnes -
      I'll eat my hat if this means May or Meyer is sent to AA. I don't see that at all.

      To me this is similar to a Rule 5 pick, except that he even has an option. They can try him out in spring training, see if moving him to the bullpen creates a little magic. He did have 14K in 14IP out of the bullpen for the Cubs.

      Plus, they can stash him in AAA (possible as a reliever so he doesn't impact the starting rotation) if they think they've got something. Otherwise, he's a candidate to let go when Kubel is added to the 40-man. There isn't much downside.

      Plus, it gives the Cubs a little payback for that whole Liam Hendriks stunt. That's the sort of icing that can make a move like this that much more tasty.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Based on your list, sans Sulbaran, lack of lefties is still an organizational weakness.
      It might still be an organizational weakness, but adding five viable lefties (two for the lower levels, three for the upper levels) in less than a year goes a long way to shoring that up. In the lower levels, I would add Gonsalves. I rank him two slots behind Sulbaran in the organization.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinsfanstl View Post
      Hmmm. To me it signals the firing of Anderson. The promotion of Nieto and a player/coach contract to Johan to school this stable of mediocre lefties in the art of the changeup. (Doing my part to get this thread to 5 pages o comments)
      We already have the guy who taught Johan to throw the change-up on the major league staff.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      It might still be an organizational weakness, but adding five viable lefties (two for the lower levels, three for the upper levels) in less than a year goes a long way to shoring that up. In the lower levels, I would add Gonsalves. I rank him two slots behind Sulbaran in the organization.
      Low threshold bar set for "viability" at the upper levels, methinks, "more shoring" up is in order for the Twins, hope they keep watching that waiver wire for something better and doing things more productive than merely getting "payback" on the Cubs.

      I'll be surprised if we get positive WAR from any of the upper levelees.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Quote Originally Posted by crarko View Post
      Well played. And auto-correct can bite me.
    1. spycake's Avatar
      spycake -
      Quote Originally Posted by BSP View Post
      You know it's a slow time of year for baseball and the team when a minor waiver claim gets two pages of responses in just a few hours!

      Every team is making minor adjustments to their 40 man roster right now. Raley might not even be on the 40 man in a week.

      I'm hoping this thread gets up to at least 5 pages. Get to work!

      -Brett
      I do not recall the Twins ever doing that before (grabbing a guy off waivers, then sending him back through right away).
    1. glunn's Avatar
      glunn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      More garbage. Always scraping the dumpster to try to find something useful--the need is quality, not utility.
      Moderator note -- it is a violation of TD policy to label another person as "garbage." This is disrespectful. Furthermore, any of the players who have been called garbage on these forums are ten times better ballplayers than any of us, so if they are garbage then what are we? They may not be good MLB players, but insults like "garbage" are not acceptable.

      What if the player were to read this thread? Let's show respect for our fellow human beings. There are thousands of ways to state an opinion that someone is not a good player without referring to him as "garbage."
    1. wagwan's Avatar
      wagwan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
      Yes. He got healthy, got a workout regiment and showed up minus 25 lbs at Fort Myers.
      So worley is in "The Best Shape of His Life" ?
    1. old nurse's Avatar
      old nurse -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I was with you until the bolded statement. In truth, Raley is a
      "below-replacement-level" pitcher (BRef WAR -0.9 FRef WAR -0.6). The definition of a wasted roster-filling space if he ends up sticking with the organization.
      38 IP. hardly a large sample size.
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