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  • Minnesota Twins Roster Projection 4.0

    With Vance Worley outrighted and Kyle Gibson seemingly in line to claim the fifth spot in the rotation, the Minnesota Twins' roster is beginning to come into focus.

    Based on recent developments, rumblings around camp and general deduction, here's a final stab at projecting the 25 men who will head north in a week when the Twins head to Chicago to open their 2014 season.

    As always, names in red are the players who should be considered locks (barring injury) while the names in black are less certain.

    Catchers (3): Kurt Suzuki, Josmil Pinto, Chris Herrmann

    I'm not sure this is how it's going to come together, but it is looking like Pinto will make the roster because the Twins need his bat. If Ron Gardenhire elects to plug Pinto in at DH frequently against lefties -- which I think is a good idea -- he'll probably want Hermmann on the roster. Herrmann also provides additional outfield depth, and has performed well this spring.

    Infielders (5): Joe Mauer, Brian Dozier, Trevor Plouffe, Pedro Florimon, Eduardo Escobar

    I think Gardenhire would like to have Chris Colabello on the team, but it's going to be tough to fit him along with a third catcher. That might ultimately be one of the tougher choices the manager has to make.

    As for Jason Bartlett, it's clear that Gardy wants to keep him but I can't see any way to rationalize a no-hit utility man on the roster in addition to the backup infielder Escobar.

    Outfielders (5): Josh Willingham, Aaron Hicks, Oswaldo Arcia, Jason Kubel, Alex Presley

    Chris Parmelee is the victim of a roster squeeze, and could be lost because he's out of options. It simply doesn't make sense to carry both Kubel and Parmelee, and all indications are that Kubel is in.

    Starting Pitchers (5): Ricky Nolasco, Phil Hughes, Kevin Correia, Mike Pelfrey, Kyle Gibson

    Samuel Deduno is headed to the bullpen, and the final spot in the rotation will go to either Gibson or Scott Diamond. Several signs are pointing to Gibson as the winner in that competition, although the club might not make an official decision until after both hurlers make their final spring appearances on Tuesday.

    Bullpen (7): Glen Perkins, Jared Burton, Casey Fien, Brian Duensing, Anthony Swarzak, Samuel Deduno, Scott Diamond

    It sounds like Deduno is basically a lock to head to the bullpen, and he'll take on a middle reliever role while Swarzak slides into the later innings. The Twins don't want to risk losing Diamond for nothing, so if he's not the starter they'll probably keep him as a long reliever unless they can swing a trade. Assistant general manager Rob Antony noted on Friday that he doesn't see Diamond as a situational reliever because he isn't especially good against lefties.

    Michael Tonkin and Caleb Thielbar are the unlucky victims of circumstance here. Both are good enough, and have pitched well enough this spring, to be viewed as bullpen fixtures, but the Twins don't lose risking them by sending them to Triple-A. It will be nice to have these kind of reinforcements available in Rochester.
    Comments 104 Comments
    1. blindeke's Avatar
      blindeke -
      Why don't they trade a reliever or two?
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nick Nelson View Post
      Nick, it looks like you have a pretty good grasp on how this roster situation is going to play out. Just a week or so ago, there was lots of speculation that a potential trade was in the works for near the close of ST. Did you hear enough in your time in Ft. Myers to rate the current chances of such a deal going down by March 31?
    1. slash129's Avatar
      slash129 -
      Will be watching Parmelee's production if he is picked up by another team who's patient with him and gives him a legitimate opportunity ... If he puts up Garrett Jones type numbers, I will then compare those numbers to the half season of sub-.700 OPS (sub-.500 vs lefties) that will likely come from Kubel and continue scratching my head.
    1. Spikecurveball's Avatar
      Spikecurveball -
      Colabello, Thielbar, Tonkin yes please. All three are better than other options. Not a big fan of playing the who has options game. I prefer putting the best 25 out there.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Quote Originally Posted by Spikecurveball View Post
      Colabello, Thielbar, Tonkin yes please. All three are better than other options. Not a big fan of playing the who has options game. I prefer putting the best 25 out there.
      Absolutely! Retaining underperformers on the active roster because they are out-of-options runs counter to common sense as well as to spending mega-millions on free-agent pitchers whose sole purpose is to reduce the heavy-losing. Tonkin and to a lesser extent Thielbar strengthen a bullpen and will contribute to a few more wins over the season. Diamond's value is as a starter/long-relief/mop-up duty. He hasn't got "it" as a starter, and the long-relief roles have proven players already on-board.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      I would hope that Colabello beats out Kubel.

      And the bullpen could be bad. We have no idea how Deduno and Diamond would actually do there. Thielbar and Tonkin are obviously better options, but they have options.
    1. KirbyHawk75's Avatar
      KirbyHawk75 -
      I do not get Gardy's fascination with Kubel or Bartlett, especially Bartlett. Twins are going to stink this year, so might as well play kids. When Bartlett got his first hit, a buddy and I were kidding that was the clinch for Bartlett to make the team.
    1. Since71's Avatar
      Since71 -
      Earlier this week the Twins brass were complaining that players weren't earning spots. Colabello has certainly earned his and if they decide to keep Kubel instead then they are sending a mixed message. I have always liked Kubel, but he is not the future of the Twins and has done nothing to indicate he should be part of the present. I will be very disappointed if Colabello does not go north with the team...my only consolation is that I will get to watch him here in Rochester.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      I'll be disappointed if Colabello isn't on the opening day roster, but Kubel is a proven veteran. I definitely understand him being on the roster regardless of his numbers.

      If Pinto makes it, he needs to play 5 days a week... Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
    1. KirbyHawk75's Avatar
      KirbyHawk75 -
      Seth, would you rather have Pinto start out at AAA? Just curious what your thoughts are on that. I agree if he does not play 5 days a week(which I hope he does) then he should be playing catcher every day in Rochester.
    1. Brandon's Avatar
      Brandon -
      They should see if Colabello can catch an inning or two in an emergency so we can send Hermann down. I don't think the third string catcher will be as big a deal if they have a hitter on the bench that can pinch hit which would be Colabello if he makes the team.

      Sending down the players with options and keeping the players out of options does make the team better as a hole in the long run. In the short run no but if there are injuries throughout the season we will have better depth to handle them this way. while right now a player is hot that doesn't mean they are the superior player. If Colabello could sudo platoon with Kubel that would be a boost to our offense. But I guess Pinto is going to do that. I hope they work out a trade for some of our cast off pitchers. I think Guerrier is also I viable option after a few more weeks of pitching.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      I'll be sad if we have to cut ties with Parmelee.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
      They should see if Colabello can catch an inning or two in an emergency so we can send Hermann down. I don't think the third string catcher will be as big a deal if they have a hitter on the bench that can pinch hit which would be Colabello if he makes the team.

      Sending down the players with options and keeping the players out of options does make the team better as a hole in the long run. In the short run no but if there are injuries throughout the season we will have better depth to handle them this way. while right now a player is hot that doesn't mean they are the superior player. If Colabello could sudo platoon with Kubel that would be a boost to our offense. But I guess Pinto is going to do that. I hope they work out a trade for some of our cast off pitchers. I think Guerrier is also I viable option after a few more weeks of pitching.
      The Twins already have an emergency catcher in Escobar. The Twins do need another RH bat, with or without Pinto, especially one that can PH, and spell Mauer or a corner OF for occasional days off. Not necessarily expecting great things from Colabello, but Hermann adds even less dimension to the already-anemic offense
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      That's about right. Herrmann will likely make it because of his versatility and because he leads the existing camp in OPS. I see a 3 way battle between Kubel, Parmelee and Colabello, for one spot, with Colabello the likely winner (unless they buy the "proven veteran" thing with Kubel. Remember, Yesterday Eddie was a 'proven veteran' when the Twins traded a Hamburger for him, so Capps was a "proven closer".)

      I have a hard time seeing Diamond on the pen. He just cannot get lefties out. I think that at this point, Diamond, Tonkin, Fien, Thielbar and Matt Guerrier (another 'proven veteran') will be fighting for 2 spots.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      It's been said a million times but the Twins already have an emergency catcher playing 1B. If that is absolutely not a possibility, then be a normal team and let the pitcher hit or pinch hit for him in the one freakin' game all year where that situation MAY come into play. Shrinking your bench by one bat for 161 games simply to guard against that situation is beyond shortsighted.

      Herrmann, Pinto and Suzuki should make it based on production, not as a 100-1 emergency insurance.
    1. 70charger's Avatar
      70charger -
      Chris Parmelee is the victim of a roster squeeze, and could be lost because he's out of options. It simply doesn't make sense to carry both Kubel and Parmelee, and all indications are that Kubel is in.
      What indications? Are there quotes from the decision makers that indicate he's likely won a spot?

      The reason I ask is that I've been watching this spring, and as far as I can tell, all indications are that he's been brutal.
    1. ppearson50's Avatar
      ppearson50 -
      With our almost non existent offense and Hermann now a possibility to take a roster spot going North, this would seem like a good time to sign Kendry Morales or Stephen Drew.
    1. ppearson50's Avatar
      ppearson50 -
      The front office has to be feeling at least a little pressure to add offense either by a trade or a signing. You would think.
    1. gbg's Avatar
      gbg -
      Nick - who is your backup first baseman in this arrangement? Hopefully won't need one often, but the only one has played a single inning at the position, minors or majors, except Mauer, is Willingham, who has a total of four innings there, none since 2009.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by ppearson50 View Post
      With our almost non existent offense and Hermann now a possibility to take a roster spot going North, this would seem like a good time to sign Kendry Morales or Stephen Drew.
      How about both? Since both Arcia and Florimon have options, they could both be signed without disrupting or endangering current players on the Twins roster bubble. Arcia can get called up as soon as Kubel shows it isn't working out, or even if Kubel does work out, when they inevitably trade Willingham.
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