• Twins Drop Burroughs. But Why?

    The Twins announced today that they have designated infielder Sean Burroughs for assignment to make room for Drew Butera on the 25-man roster. This one is a head-scratcher.

    You can certainly make the argument that Joe Mauer's knee tenderness necessitated a call-up for Butera, as he may serve as more of a second catcher than third catcher for the time being. It's just tough to understand why the Twins felt the need to dump Burroughs when there was no good reason to do so.

    Justin Morneau came out of Monday night's game against the Angels due to wrist pain. This isn't a guy with a low pain threshold, so it's safe to say that Morneau must have been hurting pretty bad to pull himself from the game. The problem was deemed serious enough that he was immediately flown back to Minnesota for an MRI.

    Fortunately, Morneau received good news today when it was revealed that there's no structural damage to the wrist, but he won't be ready to play until Friday "at the earliest."

    Why not just throw Morneau on the DL and delay the roster decision? I'm not saying Burroughs is necessarily useful, but we can't make that judgment based on his 18 sporadic plate appearances. He was at the very least a veteran left-handed bat to bring off the bench, and with him and Luke Hughes both gone there is nobody on the roster to press Danny Valencia, who has been shaky in the field and jarringly horrible at the plate with a .646 OPS and 18-to-1 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

    Maybe Burroughs wasn't really an asset, but the Twins sure seemed convinced he was less than a month ago.

    Beyond weakening the bench and forcing the team to play short-handed for at least the next two games, the decision not to DL Morneau seems questionable on its own merits. He claims that the wrist has been bothering him since the Rays series – which was over a week ago – and it's a recurring injury from last year, so giving him an extra 10 days to rest probably wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

    Rather than play it safe and stash a player on the disabled list to keep the roster at full strength, the Twins have decided to wait a few days and reevaluate.

    Sadly typical of this team.
    This article was originally published in blog: Twins Drop Burroughs. But Why? started by Nick Nelson
    Comments 46 Comments
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Why is Clete Thomas still on the team? That is the greater mystery.

      And seeing Drew Butera on the major league roster makes me puke.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      nick, that's the news today. should we just stick to how bad the pitching is every day?
    1. Alex's Avatar
      Alex -
      I don't think its an issue of one move, but that it's the most recent in a group where it seems odd, creating questions about personnel judgement and overall roster decisions. They judged Burrough's worthy enough to make the team out of spring training but 30 AB later he's DFA. Especially highlighted here is the 13 man pitching staff.
    1. glunn's Avatar
      glunn -
      I agree with those who say that our bench is terrible, and who don't mourn the loss of Borroughs. On the other hand, there don't seem to be a lot of options in Rochester who are ready to step up. The good news -- being in last place might result in a shot at a decent player being released by another team.
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      I can't believe nobody has made the comment that the Twins didn't have anything invested in Borroughs so it's no big loss. Another one of those great Terry Ryan moves to build a contender.
    1. MileHighTwinsFan's Avatar
      MileHighTwinsFan -
      I'm wondering if the next move will be to bring up Dozier and put Carroll in the utility role. What is the date when the Twins can bring him up without losing a service year on him?
    1. Alex's Avatar
      Alex -
      Quote Originally Posted by MileHighTwinsFan View Post
      I'm wondering if the next move will be to bring up Dozier and put Carroll in the utility role. What is the date when the Twins can bring him up without losing a service year on him?
      Dozier probably needs more time in AAA. He's not exactly tearing the cover off the ball, especially after his fast start.
    1. darin617's Avatar
      darin617 -
      Anybody see Jorge Cantu is out there? I know he is not the answer but better than Burroughs and somebody needs to push Danny boy so he might try.
    1. Nick Nelson's Avatar
      Nick Nelson -
      Quote Originally Posted by MileHighTwinsFan View Post
      I'm wondering if the next move will be to bring up Dozier and put Carroll in the utility role. What is the date when the Twins can bring him up without losing a service year on him?
      Dozier is old enough that starting his service clock should not be a consideration. He's also been pretty dang horrible since the first week or so of the season.
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      Well it looks like the Dozier era is going to start soon. By DFA'ing Burroughs, the only backup infielder is Plouffe. The Twins have 2 open spots on the 40-man roster so it looks like when they finally drop to 12 pitchers it will most likely Dozier getting the call and taking over the starting SS spot with Carroll moving to a utility role.
    1. LaBombo's Avatar
      LaBombo -
      Burroughs/Thomas/Hughes/Butera ===> deck chairs.

      2012 Twins ===>Titanic.
    1. 2003freak2003's Avatar
      2003freak2003 -
      Quote Originally Posted by LaBombo View Post
      Burroughs/Thomas/Hughes/Butera ===> deck chairs.

      2012 Twins ===>Titanic.
      I think the deck chairs / Titanic comparison is getting posted just a tad too much. I enjoy reading EVERY post but this one has just came up way too many times. It may be true but it is also posted WAY TOO MUCH! HMMMM
      Baseballs =====> hit by baseball players
      Why is Clete Thomas on this team? His strikeout ratio is TERRIBLE! Anyone else notice this?
    1. John Bonnes's Avatar
      John Bonnes -
      I'm agreeing with Nick. Burroughs has done less than nothing, but it's 18 AB and his value wasn't just as a left-hande pinch hitter. his value was as a possible platoon option for Valencia. I don't understand discarding that, unless they were sure that he was going to clear waivers. (Or there is some news we don't know about....)

      But the key question here is why make that move over some others. There is no way Gray is claimed. Probably not Maloney. But Nick raised the biggest question which is why not just put Morneau on the DL? Why in the hell is this team completely incapable of just throwing a guy on the DL who is obviously hurting, based both on his perfromace and the fact that they rushed him out to a specialist?

      Morneau's WPA right now is -.21. I wonder if he'll play prior to 5/15. And if he does, I'm betting he hurts the team more than he helps it. This is a silly move.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
      I'm agreeing with Nick. Burroughs has done less than nothing, but it's 18 AB and his value wasn't just as a left-hande pinch hitter. his value was as a possible platoon option for Valencia. I don't understand discarding that, unless they were sure that he was going to clear waivers. (Or there is some news we don't know about....)

      But the key question here is why make that move over some others. There is no way Gray is claimed. Probably not Maloney. But Nick raised the biggest question which is why not just put Morneau on the DL? Why in the hell is this team completely incapable of just throwing a guy on the DL who is obviously hurting, based both on his perfromace and the fact that they rushed him out to a specialist?

      Morneau's WPA right now is -.21. I wonder if he'll play prior to 5/15. And if he does, I'm betting he hurts the team more than he helps it. This is a silly move.
      Exactly. It isn't about Burroughs, it's about the fact that this is yet another strange roster move that seems less desirable than some others. It's indicative of bad thinking about player personnel.

      And of course the Morneau situation only adds deeply to that. ONCE AGAIN, just DL the guy instead of messing around with the hope that it's a 4-day situation.
    1. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
      YourHouseIsMyHouse -
      My only problem is that the Twins don't have any backup infielders and utility men now. Burroughs wasn't a good player, but he DID have the ability to make Valencia sit on the bench. That in itself has some value.
    1. deanlambrecht's Avatar
      deanlambrecht -
      Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
      I'm agreeing with Nick. Burroughs has done less than nothing, but it's 18 AB and his value wasn't just as a left-hande pinch hitter. his value was as a possible platoon option for Valencia. I don't understand discarding that, unless they were sure that he was going to clear waivers. (Or there is some news we don't know about....)

      But the key question here is why make that move over some others. There is no way Gray is claimed. Probably not Maloney. But Nick raised the biggest question which is why not just put Morneau on the DL? Why in the hell is this team completely incapable of just throwing a guy on the DL who is obviously hurting, based both on his perfromace and the fact that they rushed him out to a specialist?

      Morneau's WPA right now is -.21. I wonder if he'll play prior to 5/15. And if he does, I'm betting he hurts the team more than he helps it. This is a silly move.
      They couldn't retroactively place Morneau on the DL, and if they suspect he's ready to play well before the 15 game mark, then I see why they didn't go that route. And while I have no love loss for Burroughs, the larger problem is why we have no one behind him.

      For those so anxious to convert Carroll into a utility bench, I don't get it. He's delivering exactly as promised: getting on base, fielding his position better than adequately (and certainly better than we've seen for a long time, Hardy's injury-shortened season somewhat excepted). He's even made a number of clutch hits. Dozier has NOT performed well at Roch, and frankly isn't a highly ranked prospect. I don't see any reason to move Carroll anywhere (and particularly not out of the 2 hole, particularly given Alexi's performance last night, but even absent that).
    1. twinzgrl's Avatar
      twinzgrl -
      Burroughs has the lowest BA on the team...no surprise to me that he's gone.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Hmmnn... The Son of Sal Returns. Lock your doors ladies and gentlemen. Plouffe at 3B tonight - I'm cool with it. Let's see what happens.
    1. Montecore's Avatar
      Montecore -
      At this point getting swept by the ****ing Angels 0-9, does the Burroughs move really matter? Why did they release Hughes last week who at least could put the bat on the ball unlike Burroughs? They're now 6-18. They look like they don't have a clue from game to game. Every pitcher is a crapshoot. Fundamentally, they're a terrible team. They're heading for a 40-122 season and I don't see a sliver of hope anywhere. There was a play tonight where Plouffe should have come in for a bunt and instead he stayed back and missed a chance at a DP. No communication, no heads up on Plouffe's part. Get rid of Gardenhire and Ryan, draft power pitchers, get rid of "The Twins Way", startt fresh, the philosophy is shot. Kyle Lohse looks like Cy Young these days. It's very depressing.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by Montecore View Post
      At this point getting swept by the ****ing Angels 0-9, does the Burroughs move really matter? Why did they release Hughes last week who at least could put the bat on the ball unlike Burroughs? They're now 6-18. They look like they don't have a clue from game to game. Every pitcher is a crapshoot. Fundamentally, they're a terrible team. They're heading for a 40-122 season and I don't see a sliver of hope anywhere. There was a play tonight where Plouffe should have come in for a bunt and instead he stayed back and missed a chance at a DP. No communication, no heads up on Plouffe's part. Get rid of Gardenhire and Ryan, draft power pitchers, get rid of "The Twins Way", startt fresh, the philosophy is shot. Kyle Lohse looks like Cy Young these days. It's very depressing.
      anti-depressents might help you deal with your anger and sadness. Other than that strap into your seat for a long nasty ride of Twins futility. Maybe catching a little league game of baseball might restore some faith within your baseball wreckage.
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