Minnesota Twins News & Rumors Forum
  • Marquis Out. Who Should Replace Him?

    No surprise here, but the Twins have reportedly designated Jason Marquis for assignment after the veteran was tagged by the Brewers for eight runs while recording only five outs on Sunday.

    Marquis has never been a particularly good pitcher and I certainly wasn't high on his signing at the time, but I wouldn't have guessed he'd be the worst starter in baseball. From the moment he showed up to spring training, Marquis had nothing; he struggled to get the ball over the plate and when he did hitters went to town. As Parker pointed out on Twitter, the veteran ranked last in the majors in FIP, HR/9, swinging strike rate and first-pitch strike rate.

    Marquis' dismissal was more than warranted, but it opens yet another hole to plug in the rotation. There a number of replacement options, yet none are overly appealing. Anthony Swarzak has been working long relief and could be stretched out quickly, but he's best suited for where he's at. The same goes for Brian Duensing, who really seems to have found his calling as a lefty specialist.

    The Twins may consider recalling Liam Hendriks, who was demoted to Triple-A after posting a 9.00 ERA in four starts for Minnesota but has allowed only four runs on 10 hits in three turns since returning to Rochester. It's not uncommon for a young starter to get knocked around then head down to the minors to make some tweaks, returning later in the season with greater confidence (Kevin Slowey in 2007 is a good example).

    Another option would be Cole DeVries, a 27-year-old right-hander who's been moderately successful in Triple-A. Although he's a nice story as a local guy from Eden Prairie, I don't think DeVries is a likely candidate to succeed in the majors as he's a soft-tosser with a 1.41 career WHIP in Triple-A. But perhaps the Twins feel differently.

    Personally, I'd be in favor of adding Anthony Slama Ė who has struck out 20 batters over 11 2/3 scoreless innings in his past 10 appearances at Triple-A, where his ERA sits at 0.45 Ė to the 40-man roster and getting him up in the bullpen, sliding either Swarzak or Duensing into the starting corps. It's not ideal, but "ideal" has pretty much flown out the window at this point. At least Swarzak and Duensing are reasonably good bets to hold their own as a No. 5 starter and the Twins could finally get an extended look at what they have in Slama.

    What move(s) would you make in the aftermath of the Marquis news?
    This article was originally published in blog: Marquis Out. Who Should Replace Him? started by Nick Nelson
    Comments 38 Comments
    1. kmerfi's Avatar
      kmerfi -
      I agree that Slama should be called up, but I don't think DeVries should be put into the rotation. In my mind, there are 4 other pitchers that would go before him: Swarzak, Hendriks, Duensing and even Liriano. Liriano going back into the rotation right now probably won't be much better than Marquis was, but at least he has demonstrated that he has potential to be much better, while DeVries is completely untested.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      I don't see DeVries as building for the future; there is no upside. If this season is a total wash, then why not put Duensing back in the rotation? Help him figure out what his problem is against righties (which has developed over the last couple of years) and, if that can be accomplished (which will take giving him innings) you might have a decent back-of-rotation starter for a few years.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      I'd be for either Slama or DeVries coming up. Neither is about 'upside,' but both are long-time org guys who 1.) deserve a shot, and 2.) in a losing season, why not see what they've got. DeVries is two years younger than Slama.

      Slama - deserves it, should have given more opportunities over past two years. I have no problem with him coming up.

      DeVries - he's pitched well this year. When Walters/Diamond were promoted, DeVries was pitching equally well. He had a bad start and a half after that that dropped his ERA. On Saturday night, he threw 8 shutout innings and really dominated. He went out for the ninth and ended up getting charged for 4 runs in that inning.

      Hendriks -certainly the highest upside, but best for him is to be allowed to develop more.

      Oliveros - 15.2 consecutive scoreless innings between NB and ROCH.
      Guerra - one bad outing all year.
    1. mnfireman's Avatar
      mnfireman -
      Its too bad with everything he has gone through this spring. Maybe going to Rochester to get his head on straight and being able to be near his family will do him some good. Or maybe he'll ride off into the sunset. Good luck to him whatever his choice.
    1. Blake's Avatar
      Blake -
      I think Marquis was supposed to be nothing more than a placeholder for this year. I expected Marquis to be a .500 pitcher while pitching a lot of innings. Unfortunately for the Twins, Marquis forced their hand and now they have to make a move.

      Seth, why is Slama tagged as a relief pitcher? It seems to me Slama's control issues would be easier to deal with or hide as a starting pitcher.

      Anyway, I have to go with bringing up Slama. I think you're right, Seth, Slama deserves a look.
    1. Dilligaf69's Avatar
      Dilligaf69 -
      I Have no problem with Slama either....Leave Hendriks in AAA for now. Either give DeVries a shot or just let Swarzak get a few starts until Hendriks is ready to come back up. My question still is IF Pavano gets skipped/pushed back on Thursday what happens??? Gardy said the spot start would come from "the clubhouse" I believe which to me means Swarzak/Liriano/Duensing. If that's the case just let Cisco take the ball for one start. He's only been in the pen two weeks so his stamina should not be a problem.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      What about Waldrop? He is out of options, I believe. He is on rehab, after which he will have to be recalled. There are too many deserving relief pitchers and no real good starting options. I certainly think that Slama's numbers deserve a shot. Guerra and Oliveros have earned their way to Rochester and probably to Minnesota.
    1. Andrew Bryz-Gornia's Avatar
      Andrew Bryz-Gornia -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blake View Post
      Seth, why is Slama tagged as a relief pitcher? It seems to me Slama's control issues would be easier to deal with or hide as a starting pitcher.
      I realize my name is not Seth, but Slama has basically two pitches: a fastball and a slurve. Typically you want a starter to have about 4 pitches.
    1. bkucko's Avatar
      bkucko -
      Manship is transitioning back into a Starter and is still on the 40 man roster. Starting tonight against Gwinnett and has gone 4 Innings so far with 2 hits, 0 walks and 3 strikeouts. He's got some experience at the MLB level, it'd be worth a shot to see what he has left.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      This from LaVelle's just published blog:

      The Twins are expected to announce on Tuesday who will replace Marquis in the rotation. [...] Liam Hendriks, , is a candidate. But righthander and former Gopher Cole DeVries has also emerged as a possibility. [...].
      Whoever is called up is expected to start on Thursday against the White Sox in Chicago.
      So looks like they are bringing a starter up (unless that is LaVelle's opinion) and if that is the case, I hope it is DeVries. Hendriks needs some time in AAA to build his confidence up.
    1. twinstalker's Avatar
      twinstalker -
      I did guess that he'd be the worst pitcher in baseball. And so did everyone else in my fantasy simulation leagues. He was the only starter with a for-sure job who was not chosen in my three leagues he was eligible (drafts occurring prior to his daughter's accident). And that's with Target Field being viewed as a pitcher's park. So at least forty-some of us all knew it. It doesn't surprise me that Terry Ryan didn't.
    1. adjacent's Avatar
      adjacent -
      Quote Originally Posted by bkucko View Post
      Manship is transitioning back into a Starter and is still on the 40 man roster. Starting tonight against Gwinnett and has gone 4 Innings so far with 2 hits, 0 walks and 3 strikeouts. He's got some experience at the MLB level, it'd be worth a shot to see what he has left.
      He pitched so far 6 innings of shut out baseball. And he has pitched well all year. But he is just transitioning to stater right now, and the Twins need somebody right now. I think the most passable solution is to give some starts to Swarzak, and promote one of the relievers that are doing well (Slama is the most obvious). Longer term, promote Hendricks or Manship, if he continues to do well.
    1. twinstalker's Avatar
      twinstalker -
      Jerald Clark, Tony Batista, Jason Marquis, I want to add Craig Monroe because he's was added with Ryan's rec...almost every free agent Ryan has had anything to do with has been bottom of the heap. Or if not, then expected to do far more than capable of (Carroll, e.g)
    1. twinstalker's Avatar
      twinstalker -
      Willingham, I guess, sorry.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Too bad, I'd like Swarzak to start, and Slama to come up...actually, I'd like 12 pitchers, but that apparently is not possible.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      ???? Roy Oswalt?????
    1. TwinsGuy55422's Avatar
      TwinsGuy55422 -
      I think the time to get Slama up is now. I'd slide Swarzak into the starting rotation until Hendriks is ready.
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      Too bad, I'd like Swarzak to start, and Slama to come up...actually, I'd like 12 pitchers, but that apparently is not possible.
      They got 12 Ps now. When Blackburn was DL'd Revere came up
    1. Visnovsky's Avatar
      Visnovsky -
      It's a good thing the Twins ran Kevin Slowey out of town. He's not doing great but he would have been a better option than Marquis.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      D'oh....ok then, Swarzak and Slama is my preference...
©2014 TwinsCentric, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Interested in advertising with Twins Daily? Click here.