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  • Twins vs. Reds, 06/24/2012, 12:10pm

    Coming off a disastrous 6-0 loss last night, both the Twins pitching and offense looks to get back on track behind their wins leader, Scott Diamond. Countering for the Reds is Mike Leake, a righty pitching in his third season with the club. Which Diamond will show up today for Minnesota? Will the offense break out of its slump and score more than twice? When do we get to stop watching Twins pitchers flail at baseballs like a little leaguer?

    Box Score - Reds 6, Twins 0, 06/23/12

    Scott Diamond
    W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 5 3 2.57 9 9 0 0 0 0 56.0 62 22 16 7 2 8 1 30 .279 1.25 2.50
    MLB Totals 6 8 3.60 16 16 0 0 0 0 95.0 113 47 38 10 2 25 4 49 .295 1.45 1.70

    Mike Leake
    W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 2 5 4.70 13 13 0 0 0 0 74.2 83 44 39 9 1 21 0 53 .284 1.39 1.51
    MLB Totals 22 18 4.16 66 61 0 0 0 0 380.2 400 195 176 51 12 108 5 262 .272 1.33 1.46

    Twins Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Mauer, J MIN C 62 224 32 70 15 1 3 33 38 31 3 1 .313 .414 .429 .843
    2 Revere, B MIN RF 37 151 20 47 5 2 0 10 5 9 14 2 .311 .335 .371 .706
    3 Span, D MIN CF 65 265 34 73 17 1 3 19 27 33 7 3 .275 .342 .381 .724
    4 Willingham, J MIN LF 67 241 39 66 19 1 14 47 34 69 2 1 .274 .385 .535 .920
    5 Doumit, R MIN C 57 197 22 53 10 1 7 32 19 40 0 0 .269 .326 .437 .762
    6 Carroll, J MIN SS 68 234 31 60 9 1 0 22 27 31 6 3 .256 .337 .303 .641
    7 Diamond, S MIN P 2 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500
    8 Casilla, A MIN 2B 51 150 15 37 9 1 0 12 9 28 8 1 .247 .288 .320 .608
    9 Plouffe, T MIN RF 51 171 28 42 8 0 14 25 21 39 0 2 .246 .328 .538 .866
    10 Butera, D MIN C 18 50 3 12 4 0 0 1 4 10 0 0 .240 .309 .320 .629
    11 Morneau, J MIN 1B 52 199 23 47 12 1 10 33 19 43 1 0 .236 .306 .457 .764
    12 Dozier, B MIN SS 42 167 14 38 8 0 2 17 5 31 2 2 .228 .247 .311 .559
    13 Komatsu, E MIN RF 15 32 2 7 0 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 .219 .297 .219 .516
    14 Hughes, L MIN 2B 4 10 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 0 .200 .182 .200 .382
    14 Mastroianni, D MIN LF 22 45 4 9 1 1 0 5 5 9 2 0 .200 .280 .267 .547
    16 Valencia, D MIN 3B 27 100 9 19 5 1 1 11 2 23 0 1 .190 .204 .290 .494
    17 Parmelee, C MIN 1B 34 96 6 17 5 1 0 3 8 26 0 0 .177 .255 .250 .505
    18 Thomas, C MIN RF 12 28 2 4 1 0 1 4 0 16 0 0 .143 .172 .286 .458
    19 Burroughs, S MIN 3B 10 17 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 .118 .167 .176 .343

    Reds Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Votto, J CIN 1B 70 242 46 87 30 0 13 45 58 54 4 3 .360 .484 .645 1.128
    2 Leake, M CIN P 12 22 3 7 1 0 1 1 0 7 0 0 .318 .318 .500 .818
    3 Hanigan, R CIN C 47 142 12 41 6 0 1 7 17 18 0 0 .289 .369 .352 .721
    4 Phillips, B CIN 2B 64 251 39 72 10 1 10 44 15 30 2 0 .287 .327 .454 .781
    5 Frazier, T CIN 3B 48 141 15 38 12 3 7 22 13 40 1 1 .270 .333 .546 .879
    6 Heisey, C CIN LF 59 190 18 51 9 2 2 15 7 44 2 3 .268 .305 .368 .673
    7 Cozart, Z CIN SS 67 273 41 70 18 2 7 15 16 59 2 0 .256 .300 .414 .714
    8 Bruce, J CIN RF 68 242 40 61 16 1 16 46 28 64 4 0 .252 .326 .525 .851
    9 Negron, K CIN CF 4 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 .250 .400 .250 .650
    10 Stubbs, D CIN CF 53 204 34 48 7 0 7 18 18 59 13 3 .235 .300 .373 .673
    11 Ludwick, R CIN LF 51 167 17 38 12 0 9 31 17 44 0 0 .228 .305 .461 .766
    12 Valdez, W CIN SS 34 71 5 16 3 0 0 8 1 13 0 0 .225 .233 .268 .500
    13 Rolen, S CIN 3B 34 110 9 23 7 0 3 16 8 22 1 0 .209 .267 .355 .621
    14 Mesoraco, D CIN C 31 94 11 18 3 0 4 9 13 19 0 1 .191 .294 .351 .645
    15 Arroyo, B CIN P 12 22 2 4 0 0 0 1 1 9 0 0 .182 .208 .182 .390
    16 Bailey, H CIN P 14 28 1 4 0 0 0 3 0 10 0 0 .143 .143 .143 .286
    17 Cairo, M CIN 3B 28 50 4 7 3 1 0 2 2 3 1 0 .140 .173 .240 .413
    18 Harris, W CIN LF 24 44 5 5 4 0 0 2 3 8 1 1 .114 .170 .205 .375
    19 Cueto, J CIN P 14 29 2 3 1 0 0 2 0 12 0 0 .103 .103 .138 .241
    20 Costanzo, M CIN 3B 17 18 0 1 0 0 0 2 1 10 0 0 .056 .095 .056 .151
    21 Latos, M CIN P 13 20 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 15 0 0 .050 .130 .050 .180
    22 Simon, A CIN P 17 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Comments 142 Comments
    1. benchwarmerjim's Avatar
      benchwarmerjim -
      re Mastrionni not Doumit hitting in the 9th: the only thing I can think of is that Gardy wanted to use Span as a pinch runner if Mauer (which happened) or Willingham got on. And its not like Doumit has been tearing it up against LHP's this year (13 hits in 63 plate appearances)

      in the end, it all worked out, so horray.
    1. USAFChief's Avatar
      USAFChief -
      seven page game thread...nice!
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
      seven page game thread...nice!
      Yep. It was a great game so that's not entirely surprising. I'd like to see every game hit 100 posts, good games to get over 200. There's still much to be done to get the forums where we think they should be.
    1. PMKI's Avatar
      PMKI -
      Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?
    1. Dilligaf69's Avatar
      Dilligaf69 -
      Nice to see Diamond bounce back with a very solid outing...I still think he's a keeper and the Hammer saves the day.
    1. Dilligaf69's Avatar
      Dilligaf69 -
      Quote Originally Posted by PMKI View Post
      Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?


      YES!...they have nobody else...he'll be fine. He made a great defensive paly again today and although he has too many errors he shows potential to be a solid SS. He's also had his moments offensively, needs more consistency but that's nothing new for a young player in his 1st yr.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by PMKI View Post
      Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?
      Yes, if only because they have no other viable options. The Twins are a bad team and now is the time to let young guys take their lumps and hopefully progress.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      Quote Originally Posted by PMKI View Post
      Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?
      Dozier has made rookie mistakes and has taken his lumps lately. I think his defense is better than the high number of errors and he has the ability to hit. But, like Morneau right now, he's in an awful funk at the plate. Hopefully, sooner rather than later, he comes out of it.

      I certainly don't want to see Carroll starting lots of games at SS. If they want to send Dozier down, they should recall Florimon, who has done a decent job in the minors.
    1. glunn's Avatar
      glunn -
      Quote Originally Posted by stringer bell View Post
      If they want to send Dozier down, they should recall Florimon, who has done a decent job in the minors.
      At the very least, I would like to see Florimon as a September callup.

      Great win for the Twins today and an excellent game thread.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Badsmerf View Post
      Wow. This game is why I love baseball.
      Agreed. This was a baseball lovers game. Some interesting strategy, some in-game heroics, lots of early count swing and contact that kept the game moving at a brisk pace, the last two innings chock-full with the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat

      I would have been disappointed if the bottom of the 8th had made the final difference, but it still would have been a tremendous regular season game.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
      I so want to like Casilla. He's a talented player when his head isn't planted in his ass.
      I'm there. It looks like now that he finally has legit competition for PT he is playing much better in the field. He's usually good for 2-3 mini runs/season when he looks like he has finally put it all together on offense and defense, I'm thinking he might be due for a little hitting outbreak, especially if Gardy decides to give Dozier a day off now and again and move Caroll over to short. Dozier looks like he's going to possibly be a Gagne-level type of SS, he made some terrific plays today, it still wouldn't hurt to give him a break, he's definitely pressing at the plate right now.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
      At the very least, I would like to see Florimon as a September callup.

      Great win for the Twins today and an excellent game thread.
      Florimon is staging a mini-break out at ROC, Michael showing the fleetingest glimpses of a heartbeat at FtM, who woulda thunk it? MN Twins w/ organizational SS depth?
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
      Nice hit by Mauer -- now it's Hammer Time.
      IMO, you are vastly understating what Mauer accomplished there. Down 0-2 in the count, fighting off 101 and 102 MPH fastballs and making good decisions on when to swing against 88-91 MPH sliders, that was one of the few times I could agree with the general blanket characterization of a "great at bat" . He literally broke Chapman's spirit, especially after he took yet another ridiculously powerful 3-2 pitch opposite field off the wall. Without that hit for a double, Chapman probably had another 100+MPH pitch or two to feed the Hammer with 2 outs and bases empty. Kudos to Hammer for getting all of that 97 MPH pitch, but Mauer gets a huge share of the credit for that hit and getting Diamond through 8 from behind the plate.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      IMO, you are vastly understating what Mauer accomplished there. Down 0-2 in the count, fighting off 101 and 102 MPH fastballs and making good decisions on when to swing against 88-91 MPH sliders, that was one of the few times I could agree with the general blanket characterization of a "great at bat" . He literally broke Chapman's spirit, especially after he took yet another ridiculously powerful 3-2 pitch opposite field off the wall. Without that hit for a double, Chapman probably had another 100+MPH pitch or two to feed the Hammer with 2 outs and bases empty. Kudos to Hammer for getting all of that 97 MPH pitch, but Mauer gets a huge share of the credit for that hit and getting Diamond through 8 from behind the plate.
      Yep, Mauer was the player of the game. Willingham may have had the game-winning RBI but Joe was the one who stood in there and had that 10 or 11 pitch AB and knocked Chapman off his game. It was the very definition of a "professional at-bat".
    1. one_eyed_jack's Avatar
      one_eyed_jack -
      Awesome game thread, I appreciate the descriptions and insights. I couldn't tune in today, sounds like I missed a beauty of the game with a lot of interesting stuff that you don't really get from recaps, highlights and box scores.

      Maybe I should skip more often, I seem to have a habit of missing the good ones.

      And I've got tickets for tomorrow night's game, which doesn't bode well either - the Twins have lost the last 8 games that I've attended - heartbreakers, blowouts and everything in between. No better way to see that streak broken than against the Whities, but I have this horrible feeling that it's going to be Good Peavy vs. Bad Frankie.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by one_eyed_jack View Post
      Awesome game thread, I appreciate the descriptions and insights. I couldn't tune in today, sounds like I missed a beauty of the game with a lot of interesting stuff that you don't really get from recaps, highlights and box scores.

      Maybe I should skip more often, I seem to have a habit of missing the good ones.

      And I've got tickets for tomorrow night's game, which doesn't bode well either - the Twins have lost the last 8 games that I've attended - heartbreakers, blowouts and everything in between. No better way to see that streak broken than against the Whities, but I have this horrible feeling that it's going to be Good Peavy vs. Bad Frankie.
      1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

      2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
      Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


      I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.
    1. striker_86's Avatar
      striker_86 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

      2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
      Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


      I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.
      I also missed the game, but I'll definitely consider watching it tonight. I'll be at tomorrows game as we look to cut into that white sox lead a little bit
    1. one_eyed_jack's Avatar
      one_eyed_jack -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

      2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
      Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


      I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.
      1) Ha! I often DVR games I can't catch live but rarely go back to them and settle for highlights instead. But I was actually thinking to myself as I read through the thread "Man, it might actually be worth going back and watching this one."

      2) I'd love for that prediction to come through. I keep thinking, or at least hoping, that Morneau will bust out and go on a tear. Tomorrow is about as good a time to start that as we're going to get. I'm interested to see how they come out in the series as well. There are a number of troubling aspects to the season thus far, the 13-22 home record is a big one. Gotta find a way to start winning on our own turf, especially against division foes.
    1. CDog's Avatar
      CDog -
      Quote Originally Posted by one_eyed_jack View Post
      1) Ha! I often DVR games I can't catch live but rarely go back to them and settle for highlights instead. But I was actually thinking to myself as I read through the thread "Man, it might actually be worth going back and watching this one."
      I do the same. If I'm not going to be able to watch any or even chunks, I'll just dvr. Sometimes I'll be insulated from finding out and I'll watch the game (often hurrying between pitches or the like with the ffwd). But even if I have kept tabs on the game, I like having it recorded for "just in case" moments that I want to go back and watch. Today's game is definitely one to at least watch parts of. I'd say every Votto at-bat (for various reasons) and the 9th inning for absolute sure.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by CDog View Post
      I do the same. If I'm not going to be able to watch any or even chunks, I'll just dvr. Sometimes I'll be insulated from finding out and I'll watch the game (often hurrying between pitches or the like with the ffwd). But even if I have kept tabs on the game, I like having it recorded for "just in case" moments that I want to go back and watch. Today's game is definitely one to at least watch parts of. I'd say every Votto at-bat (for various reasons) and the 9th inning for absolute sure.
      Add reasons to watch:
      1) Dozier made a series of good-to-great plays. In the field, he is maturing right before our eyes.
      2) Mauer's heightened interest level, in the dugout, behind the plate, in the batters box.
      3) Diamond. And not just his all-day battle with Votto, ie, he hit Votto early on, and then hit Phillips to load the bases and pitched out of it. He has now actually found a strikeout pitch with his mixing and matching skills. Gives high hopes for the future.
      4) Brandon Phillips. You have to see him play to appreciate just how good he really is. Stole a bunch of hits from the Twins all weekend. He's the best fielding 2B in baseball IMO.
      5) Aroldis Chapman. Did I mention the Chapman-Mauer battle? All right, I did already. Epic regular season game battle that can't be reiterated enough. Chapman has previously hit 106 on the gun and averages 15.7 K/9 with a .76 WHIP. Scary good while still with upside at only 24 years of age.
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