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  • White Sox vs. Twins, 06/25/2012, 7:10pm

    The Twins rallied and defeated the Cincinnati Reds in dramatic fashion yesterday on the backs of Willingham and Mauer, with Josh homering in the top of the ninth against Aroldis Chapman and taking the game 4-3. The Twins closed out their NL road trip with an acceptable 3-3 record and return home for six games against AL Central opponents. Tonight, we'll see a pair of enigmatic starters in Liriano and Peavy. Peavy has returned to his former glory in 2012 and Liriano has been stellar in his past five starts, striking out over one batter per inning. Who will emerge victorious tonight?

    Box Score - Twins 4, Reds 3 - 06/24/12

    Jake Peavy
    W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 6 3 2.74 14 14 3 1 0 0 98.2 70 32 30 8 4 23 0 83 .198 0.94 0.55
    Francisco Liriano
    W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 1 7 5.74 16 11 0 0 0 0 64.1 60 43 41 7 3 38 4 65 .252 1.52 1.11
    White Sox Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Danks, J CWS CF 11 13 2 5 1 0 0 0 0 4 1 0 .385 .385 .462 .846
    2 Konerko, P CWS 1B 65 240 36 82 14 0 13 39 28 38 0 0 .342 .417 .563 .979
    3 De Aza, A CWS CF 71 273 48 80 13 3 4 28 29 58 14 5 .293 .368 .407 .775
    4 Rios, A CWS CF 70 265 36 77 12 5 8 36 13 36 10 3 .291 .331 .464 .795
    5 Pierzynski, A CWS C 63 226 33 65 8 2 12 41 16 29 0 0 .288 .336 .500 .836
    6 Viciedo, D CWS RF 66 226 27 59 4 0 13 34 8 55 0 0 .261 .292 .451 .744
    7 Beckham, G CWS 2B 70 261 36 65 10 0 9 32 17 44 3 2 .249 .303 .391 .694
    8 Ramirez, A CWS SS 70 270 24 64 9 1 1 32 8 41 9 2 .237 .262 .289 .551
    9 Dunn, A CWS 1B 72 251 42 54 10 0 23 53 58 115 0 1 .215 .362 .530 .892
    10 Escobar, E CWS SS 23 59 8 12 1 1 0 2 9 17 2 0 .203 .309 .254 .563
    11 Humber, P CWS P 2 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .400
    12 Morel, B CWS 3B 35 113 14 20 2 0 0 5 7 39 4 1 .177 .225 .195 .420
    13 Lillibridge, B CWS RF 49 63 10 11 1 0 0 2 4 26 7 2 .175 .232 .190 .422
    14 Fukudome, K CWS RF 24 41 2 7 1 0 0 4 8 9 0 1 .171 .294 .195 .489
    15 Hudson, O CWS 3B 28 88 6 15 3 2 1 11 9 13 1 1 .170 .247 .284 .532
    16 Flowers, T CWS C 18 47 7 8 2 0 2 2 4 21 1 0 .170 .264 .340 .605

    Twins Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Revere, B MIN RF 38 155 20 49 5 2 0 10 5 9 14 3 .316 .340 .374 .714
    2 Mauer, J MIN C 63 228 33 72 16 1 3 33 38 32 3 1 .316 .416 .434 .850
    3 Willingham, J MIN LF 68 245 40 68 20 1 15 49 34 69 2 1 .278 .386 .551 .937
    4 Span, D MIN CF 66 265 35 73 17 1 3 19 27 33 7 3 .275 .342 .381 .724
    5 Doumit, R MIN C 57 197 22 53 10 1 7 32 19 40 0 0 .269 .326 .437 .762
    6 Carroll, J MIN SS 69 234 31 60 9 1 0 22 27 31 6 3 .256 .337 .303 .641
    7 Plouffe, T MIN RF 52 175 29 43 8 0 15 26 21 40 0 2 .246 .327 .549 .875
    8 Casilla, A MIN 2B 52 153 15 37 9 1 0 12 9 28 8 1 .242 .283 .314 .597
    9 Butera, D MIN C 19 50 3 12 4 0 0 1 4 10 0 0 .240 .309 .320 .629
    10 Morneau, J MIN 1B 53 203 23 47 12 1 10 34 19 44 1 0 .232 .301 .448 .749
    11 Dozier, B MIN SS 43 170 14 38 8 0 2 17 5 32 2 2 .224 .243 .306 .549
    12 Komatsu, E MIN RF 15 32 2 7 0 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 .219 .297 .219 .516
    13 Hughes, L MIN 2B 4 10 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 0 .200 .182 .200 .382
    14 Valencia, D MIN 3B 27 100 9 19 5 1 1 11 2 23 0 1 .190 .204 .290 .494
    15 Mastroianni, D MIN LF 23 48 4 9 1 1 0 5 5 10 2 0 .188 .264 .250 .514
    16 Parmelee, C MIN 1B 34 96 6 17 5 1 0 3 8 26 0 0 .177 .255 .250 .505
    17 Diamond, S MIN P 3 7 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .143 .143 .143 .286
    17 Thomas, C MIN RF 12 28 2 4 1 0 1 4 0 16 0 0 .143 .172 .286 .458
    19 Burroughs, S MIN 3B 10 17 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 .118 .167 .176 .343
    Comments 212 Comments
    1. Ultima Ratio's Avatar
      Ultima Ratio -
      Perhaps the most important series of the season (at least to keep the fans interested/teased for another couple of weeks) . For some reason I'm optimistic that we can win 2/3 and it all starts tonight, then take 2/3 against KC.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      White Sox:
      De Aza CF
      Youkilis 3B
      Dunn DH
      Konerko 1B
      Rios RF
      Pierzynski C
      Viciedo LF
      Ramirez SS
      Beckham 2B
      (Peavy P)

      Twins:
      Span CF
      Revere RF
      Mauer DH
      Willingham LF
      Morneau 1B
      Plouffe 3B
      Dozier SS
      Butera C
      Carroll 2B
      (Liriano P)
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Cntrl+F= "Doumit"

      zero results found.

      Cntrl+F= "Butera"

      one result found

      WHY?
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Cntrl+F= "Doumit"

      zero results found.

      Cntrl+F= "Butera"

      one result found

      WHY?
      Because Doumit excels against right-handed pitching, and Peavy is a....well....ummm.....Butera calls a great game!
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Cntrl+F= "Doumit"

      zero results found.

      Cntrl+F= "Butera"

      one result found

      WHY?
      Since Liriano was reinserted into the rotation, Butera has been his personal catcher. Butera does a better job of babysitting Liriano than Mauer does. He goes out to the mound more and is more animated behind the plate in his efforts to keep Liriano focused and relaxed.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
      Perhaps the most important series of the season (at least to keep the fans interested/teased for another couple of weeks) . For some reason I'm optimistic that we can win 2/3 and it all starts tonight, then take 2/3 against KC.
      Has anyone seen Ryan Doumit's face on the side of any milk cartons? One day off, yes, but two straight days? Yes, Liriano is pitching (Son of Sal caddy duty), but unless he's hurt, how do you keep his bat out of the lineup again?

      He's only the top hitting MLB catcher over the last 7 days. Here's his line: .467/.467/.733/.1200, with a .515 WOBA. Hey, at least we have a good PH option available. I just like riding those hot bats as long as possible, especially in a big series like this.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Cntrl+F= "Doumit"

      zero results found.

      Cntrl+F= "Butera"

      one result found

      WHY?
      Francisco really likes it when Son of Sal slaps him on the ass and yells "ˇbravo!" after every half inning.

      Mauer and Doumit just don't have that kind of relationship with Liriano.

      Twins Baseball. Completely illogical since 2002.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Has anyone seen Ryan Doumit's face on the side of any milk cartons? One day off, yes, but two straight days? Yes, Liriano is pitching (Son of Sal caddy duty), but unless he's hurt, how do you keep his bat out of the lineup again?

      He's only the top hitting MLB catcher over the last 7 days. Here's his line: .467/.467/.733/.1200, with a .515 WOBA. Hey, at least we have a good PH option available. I just like riding those hot bats as long as possible, especially in a big series like this.
      There is no reason for two of the better-hitting catchers in baseball to be out from behind the plate in favor of the absolute worst hitter in all of major league baseball to be in their place.

      None. It's awful. Just awful.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
      Francisco really likes it when Son of Sal slaps him on the ass and yells "ˇbravo!" after every half inning.

      Mauer and Doumit just don't have that kind of relationship with Liriano.

      Twins Baseball. Completely illogical since 2002.
      I assumed they just enjoyed playing so much in the NL that they decided to keep at least one guy in the lineup who has no chance of getting multiple hits in a game.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by SweetOne69 View Post
      Since Liriano was reinserted into the rotation, Butera has been his personal catcher. Butera does a better job of babysitting Liriano than Mauer does. He goes out to the mound more and is more animated behind the plate in his efforts to keep Liriano focused and relaxed.
      No amount of babysitting will ever make up for this.
    1. GCTF's Avatar
      GCTF -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      I assumed they just enjoyed playing so much in the NL that they decided to keep at least one guy in the lineup who has no chance of getting multiple hits in a game.
      Looks like your sponsorship of Buterrible's BRef page has expired. Just giving a heads up.
    1. GCTF's Avatar
      GCTF -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      No amount of babysitting will ever make up for this.
      He's no Johnny Bench, or Mrs. Bench for that matter.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      I bid $0.25.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by GCTF View Post
      Looks like your sponsorship of Buterrible's BRef page has expired. Just giving a heads up.
      Yeah, they doubled the price to $35! Bastards.
    1. striker_86's Avatar
      striker_86 -
      I bet Youk goes 3 for 4 with a homer tonight....
    1. twinzgrl's Avatar
      twinzgrl -
      I'm not a big Butera fan or anything, but the man is hitting much better this season than last...and if he can keep Liriano calm, well, he deserves a medal. Another White Sox series, another three games of AJ antics....can't wait.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinzgrl View Post
      I'm not a big Butera fan or anything, but the man is hitting much better this season than last...and if he can keep Liriano calm, well, he deserves a medal. Another White Sox series, another three games of AJ antics....can't wait.
      He's had all of 50 ABs this season (even though it seems like about 100 more than that). The guy is one of the worst hitters in baseball. That's not going to change. He shouldn't be on any team's roster, much less starting games in front of talented catchers like Mauer and Doumit.

      Remember when people thought Butera helped Pavano concentrate? And remember how Pavano put up the same numbers when Mauer was behind the plate?

      Butera does far more damage to the lineup with the bat than any benefit he could ever bring to a pitcher's delicate mindset. These pitchers aren't children. They've made it to the highest level of professional sports by being mentally tough enough to compete. Francisco is pitching well because his mechanics are back in order and because he's using his devastating slider more often, not because Son of Sal is sitting behind the plate, making sure the bottom third of the Twins lineup never, ever scores another run.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
      He's had all of 50 ABs this season (even though it seems like about 100 more than that). The guy is one of the worst hitters in baseball. That's not going to change. He shouldn't be on any team's roster, much less starting games in front of talented catchers like Mauer and Doumit.

      Remember when people thought Butera helped Pavano concentrate? And remember how Pavano put up the same numbers when Mauer was behind the plate?

      Butera does far more damage to the lineup with the bat than any benefit he could ever bring to a pitcher's delicate mindset. These pitchers aren't children. They've made it to the highest level of professional sports by being mentally tough enough to compete. Francisco is pitching well because his mechanics are back in order and because he's using his devastating slider more often, not because Son of Sal is sitting behind the plate, making sure the bottom third of the Twins lineup never, ever scores another run.
      This causes me to start bringing in the nepotism topic from another thread. Somehow, I doubt the reason Sal JR catches for Liriano is because of his scholarly command of South American Spanish and Gardy's pledge of no more scholarships and no more 3 rostered catchers lasted about 30 days. Even his fielding statistics are below Bench level- and by that I mean Mrs. Bench.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinzgrl View Post
      I'm not a big Butera fan or anything, but the man is hitting much better this season than last...
      No, not really.

      The only difference between this year, and the previous years, is that he had a spurt of good games right away rather than hidden somewhere in the middle.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Curiosity ensues...

      First 28 plate appearances this season for the Son of Sal:

      .909 OPS, 3bb/2so

      Last 27:

      .345 OPS, 1bb/8so

      In 2011 he had a 29 PA stretch with a 1.009 OPS.

      In 2010 he had a 39 PA stretch with an .887 OPS.
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