• Twins vs White Sox, 07-25-2012, 1:10pm

    The Twins bullpen was shelled for nine runs last night as the White Sox drubbed Minnesota 11-4. Wasting a quality start from Cole De Vries (6 IP, 2 runs, 1 earned), the Twins pen disintegrated, allowing nine runs in three innings pitched with five walks. Not the type of performance you want to make against a division rival.

    In the getaway game, we'll see a rejuvenated Nick Blackburn take on a rejuvenated Jake Peavy. Pitching well in his last start, Blackburn looks to cement his spot in the rotation for the rest of the summer. We'll see how well that works, given US Cellular's bandbox nature and Nick's proclivity to give up the long ball when his sinker isn't working.

    What do you expect from Blackburn today? What member of the Twins lineup will step up and drive in some runs after Willingham's one-man show last night? Join the Twins Daily discussion below!

    Nick Blackburn

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 4 5 7.46 14 14 0 0 70.0 97 58 58 15 0 22 0 32 .327 1.70 1.22
    MLB Totals 43 51 4.76 140 132 5 0 790.0 957 467 418 109 18 198 11 378 .300 1.46 1.33

    Jake Peavy

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 7 7 3.22 19 19 4 1 134.0 113 50 48 14 6 27 0 120 .228 1.04 0.65
    MLB Totals 116 88 3.45 270 269 13 6 1715.1 1497 691 658 173 59 526 37 1674 .234 1.18 0.95

    Twins Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Mauer, J MIN C 89 329 52 109 21 1 6 45 52 50 4 1 .331 .422 .456 .878
    2 Revere, B MIN RF 62 257 31 80 8 3 0 15 14 21 21 5 .311 .349 .366 .715
    3 Doumit, R MIN C 79 275 32 79 19 1 10 46 21 58 0 0 .287 .340 .473 .813
    4 Span, D MIN CF 89 358 44 101 24 2 3 30 35 47 9 6 .282 .345 .385 .731
    5 Willingham, J MIN LF 93 336 57 92 22 1 25 72 51 87 2 1 .274 .385 .568 .953
    6 Mastroianni, D MIN LF 38 80 11 21 1 2 2 9 9 16 9 2 .263 .337 .400 .737
    7 Plouffe, T MIN RF 74 259 44 67 12 0 19 38 26 57 0 3 .259 .330 .525 .855
    8 Morneau, J MIN 1B 74 289 34 73 18 1 11 40 25 59 1 0 .253 .314 .436 .750
    9 Carroll, J MIN SS 90 309 38 74 12 1 0 29 37 47 6 3 .239 .324 .285 .609
    10 Dozier, B MIN SS 67 255 25 60 9 1 4 28 10 46 6 2 .235 .265 .325 .590
    11 Butera, D MIN C 28 74 5 17 5 0 1 4 5 18 0 0 .230 .288 .338 .625
    12 Casilla, A MIN 2B 67 200 16 45 10 1 0 16 9 37 11 1 .225 .259 .285 .544
    13 Komatsu, E MIN RF 15 32 2 7 0 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 .219 .297 .219 .516
    14 Parmelee, C MIN 1B 40 108 10 22 5 1 2 6 9 28 0 0 .204 .283 .324 .607
    15 Hughes, L MIN 2B 4 10 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 0 .200 .182 .200 .382
    16 Valencia, D MIN 3B 27 100 9 19 5 1 1 11 2 23 0 1 .190 .204 .290 .494

    White Sox Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Konerko, P CWS 1B 89 330 45 111 17 0 16 48 37 50 0 0 .336 .410 .533 .943
    2 Rios, A CWS CF 95 363 57 114 23 5 15 58 17 49 14 5 .314 .349 .529 .878
    3 Danks, J CWS CF 18 27 3 8 1 0 0 2 0 8 1 1 .296 .286 .333 .619
    4 Pierzynski, A CWS C 83 293 40 84 11 3 16 50 19 44 0 0 .287 .339 .509 .847
    5 De Aza, A CWS CF 95 380 64 106 20 5 6 37 34 78 17 8 .279 .347 .405 .752
    6 Youkilis, K CWS 3B 24 92 18 25 4 0 5 19 14 21 0 0 .272 .370 .478 .849
    7 Ramirez, A CWS SS 95 366 36 97 14 3 3 46 10 52 13 3 .265 .286 .344 .630
    8 Viciedo, D CWS RF 89 309 37 79 9 1 15 46 15 72 0 0 .256 .294 .437 .730
    9 Beckham, G CWS 2B 93 340 42 78 16 0 9 38 23 59 3 2 .229 .285 .356 .640
    10 Dunn, A CWS 1B 96 338 59 71 12 0 30 71 75 146 1 1 .210 .353 .512 .865
    11 Escobar, E CWS SS 34 80 14 16 2 1 0 2 9 22 2 0 .200 .281 .250 .531
    11 Humber, P CWS P 2 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .400
    13 Hudson, O CWS 3B 33 101 7 18 3 2 1 11 9 16 1 1 .178 .245 .277 .523
    14 Flowers, T CWS C 29 73 9 13 3 0 2 2 6 31 2 0 .178 .259 .301 .561
    15 Morel, B CWS 3B 35 113 14 20 2 0 0 5 7 39 4 1 .177 .225 .195 .420
    16 Lillibridge, B CWS RF 49 63 10 11 1 0 0 2 4 26 7 2 .175 .232 .190 .422
    17 Fukudome, K CWS RF 24 41 2 7 1 0 0 4 8 9 0 1 .171 .294 .195 .489
    Comments 164 Comments
    1. CDog's Avatar
      CDog -
      My mom loves the joke about the masochist and the sadist getting together. The masochist says, "Whip me." The sadist says, "No."
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      This game thread is fantastic, I can't believe I missed so much yumminess.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by CDog View Post
      My mom loves the joke about the masochist and the sadist getting together. The masochist says, "I want to watch the Twins." The sadist says, "No."
      I like this version more.
    1. CDog's Avatar
      CDog -
      Told you so! Something ain't right out there in left field!!!
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      You can send one player to a sports shrink if they've got confidence issues. But how do you fix a whole team if they've been conditioned to lose?

      I think the answer is the same whether you think losing is infectious or not. You cycle out the players, coaches, and staff until you hit on a combination that works.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      This thread is starting to remind me of the movie "The Natural":

      "What is losing? Losing is a disease as contagious as polio. Losing is a disease as contagious as syphilis. Losing is a disease as contagious as bubonic plague, attacking one but affecting all. But curable. Imagine you are on a ship at sea..."

      Good film but I wish they hadn't changed the ending from the book.
    1. DPJ's Avatar
      DPJ -
      Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
      Yeah, its all just some big spreadsheet exercise.

      I happen to believe that not everything that can be counted counts. And not everything that counts can be counted.

      Losing is partly a learned behavior, as is winning.
      I agree that not everything is a number when it comes to sports, but how in the hell do you quantify what you're talking about.

      How do you learn how to win, teams don't stay bad forever so how does a team learn how to win. Is it maybe when they get enough friggin talent to win games?
      How does a team captain/leader effect wins, how's Cuddyer doing in CO?
      How does a manager players believe in effect wins?

      I could go on all day...
    1. Ultima Ratio's Avatar
      Ultima Ratio -
      Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
      I can't respond to that cause there's no valid response that can be given. Neither you or I have any proof that any of that crap you just mentioned effects on the field proformance. I don't live in a world of made up clubhouse mojjo or whatever you believe in. If you look at the bad teams in baseball it's cause they lack talent to win games. If you look at the winning teams it's cause they have a talented roster.

      Were not reinventing the wheel here, good teams win games while bad teams lose games.
      No proof? Ok, look up the placebo effect and get back to us.

      Love is a tough thing to measure.... therefore it must not exist. Do I have that about right?
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
      What in the hell is "stench in it's DNA"

      How is someone suppose to respond to that. Talent is all that matters in this game, if you have talented players then you're going to win games. If you have nontalented players then you're going to lose games. Lets not get into the mythical world of clutch, knowing how to win and whatever bs media driven cliches.
      Talent is all that matters, in any sport, period.
    1. DPJ's Avatar
      DPJ -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
      No proof? Ok, look up the placebo effect and get back to us.

      Love is a tough thing to measure.... therefore it must not exist. Do I have that about right?
      How did the Texas Rangers learn how to win after being garbage for all those years. Did Ronnie Wash bust out some 8balls and get everyone to believe? Or did they finally gather a talented enough roster to get outta the basement?

      How did the Pirates finally start winning, was it Clint Hurdles doing naked laps in the clubhouse? Or did they hit on some high picks like Walker, McCutchon and mades some good trades to finally piece together a rotation?
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
      Maybe it's just me (I'm only partially following the game as I work on something else), but the last few hits seem to have come off some not-too-bad pitches. Looks like Chicago did a good job scouting where Blackburn likes to throw the ball.
      You mean like right over the middle of the plate? That is good scouting.
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
      How did the Texas Rangers learn how to win after being garbage for all those years. Did Ronnie Wash bust out some 8balls and get everyone to believe? Or did they finally gather a talented enough roster to get outta the basement?

      How did the Pirates finally start winning, was it Clint Hurdles doing naked laps in the clubhouse? Or did they hit on some high picks like Walker, McCutchon and mades some good trades to finally piece together a rotation?
      They got Hamilton off the junk.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Did Dick make it through a Dunn plate appearance without mentioning strikeouts?
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Annnnnnnnnnnnd there goes another one.



      Leave him out there until his arm falls off.
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
      The Twins front office would really rather watch Blackburn do this then let Liam take his lumps?
      They should have let Blackie rot in Rochester and brought back Hendriks, this is f***ing insane!
    1. Hijinks's Avatar
      Hijinks -
      Why hasn't blackburn been pulled yet? Seriously blackburn,watching tape doesn't fix this kind of problem. Maybe next time you should say you solved the problem until you have strung together multiple quality starts.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Butera needs to takes some ESL classes so he can fix Blacksie.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
      You mean like right over the middle of the plate? That is good scouting.
      I don't have gamecenter or anything on so I can't see where they tracked; I was just going by what I happened to catch on replays for hits. It looked to me like some of them were kept down in the zone and to the sides of the plate, and yet still got hammered.

      That last homer, however, was a different matter.
    1. Ultima Ratio's Avatar
      Ultima Ratio -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
      Talent is all that matters, in any sport, period.
      You're kinda missing the original argument, which was whether the best way to get back to success was to completely bottom out the team for several years or not.

      Talent is a necessary condition of success but not always sufficient. Look at team USA basketball from prior years. All the talent in the world and awfully clumsy and bad at times.
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      Butera needs to takes some ESL classes so he can fix Blacksie.
      I think Blackburn needs to try chewing gum.

      And if he's already chewing gum, switch flavors.
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