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  • Twins vs White Sox, 07-30-2012, 7:10pm

    The big news of the weekend was that Francisco Liriano was traded for two White Sox players. Fan outrage and then the grief process followed. Whether you like it or not, Francisco is done and the Twins now have Pedro Hernandez and somebody named Escobar.

    The other news of the weekend was that the Twins beat the tar out of the Cleveland Indians in a three game set, scoring double digits in two of the games. Excellent pitching performances were the calling card of the weekend as Twins starters went deep into games and stymied the Indians offense all weekend.

    Tonight, the Twins host the White Sox (but no, you-know-who isn't pitching yet) as Cole De Vries takes on Jose Quintana. The Sox swept the Twins just last week but after their dominating performance against Cleveland, the Twins surely want revenge. Can they do it? What do you expect from De Vries tonight and can the Twins get to Quintana? Join the discussion below and tell us about it!

    Cole De Vries

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 2 2 3.64 9 8 0 0 47.0 43 24 19 11 3 9 0 33 .238 1.11 0.52
    MLB Totals 2 2 3.64 9 8 0 0 47.0 43 24 19 11 3 9 0 33 .238 1.11 0.52

    Jose Quintana

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 4 1 2.58 13 11 0 0 76.2 67 22 22 7 2 14 0 44 .238 1.06 1.16
    MLB Totals 4 1 2.58 13 11 0 0 76.2 67 22 22 7 2 14 0 44 .238 1.06 1.16

    Twins Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Mauer, J MIN C 93 345 57 113 21 1 6 48 54 53 5 1 .328 .418 .446 .864
    2 Revere, B MIN RF 66 276 34 87 10 3 0 20 14 23 24 5 .315 .350 .373 .724
    3 Doumit, R MIN C 83 290 32 84 19 1 10 47 22 60 0 0 .290 .342 .466 .807
    4 Span, D MIN CF 93 373 50 107 27 2 3 32 39 48 11 6 .287 .354 .394 .748
    5 Willingham, J MIN LF 97 351 61 95 22 1 27 78 54 91 2 1 .271 .383 .570 .953
    6 Mastroianni, D MIN LF 39 80 11 21 1 2 2 9 10 16 9 2 .263 .344 .400 .744
    7 Morneau, J MIN 1B 78 304 37 79 19 1 13 46 26 60 1 0 .260 .322 .457 .780
    8 Plouffe, T MIN RF 74 259 44 67 12 0 19 38 26 57 0 3 .259 .330 .525 .855
    9 Dozier, B MIN SS 71 269 28 65 9 1 4 28 12 48 8 2 .242 .275 .327 .602
    10 Carroll, J MIN SS 92 316 38 75 12 1 0 29 37 47 6 3 .237 .322 .282 .604
    11 Butera, D MIN C 28 74 5 17 5 0 1 4 5 18 0 0 .230 .288 .338 .625
    12 Casilla, A MIN 2B 71 212 20 48 11 2 0 20 10 40 12 1 .226 .262 .297 .559
    13 Komatsu, E MIN RF 15 32 2 7 0 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 .219 .297 .219 .516
    14 Parmelee, C MIN 1B 40 108 10 22 5 1 2 6 9 28 0 0 .204 .283 .324 .607
    15 Hughes, L MIN 2B 4 10 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 0 .200 .182 .200 .382
    16 Valencia, D MIN 3B 29 108 11 20 6 1 1 12 2 25 0 1 .185 .198 .287 .485

    White Sox Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Konerko, P CWS 1B 93 345 46 114 17 0 17 51 37 55 0 0 .330 .402 .528 .930
    2 Danks, J CWS CF 22 35 4 11 1 0 0 2 0 10 1 1 .314 .306 .343 .648
    3 Rios, A CWS CF 99 378 60 117 25 5 16 63 18 50 15 5 .310 .344 .529 .873
    4 Pierzynski, A CWS C 83 293 40 84 11 3 16 50 19 44 0 0 .287 .339 .509 .847
    5 De Aza, A CWS CF 97 388 65 108 20 5 6 39 34 79 18 8 .278 .345 .402 .747
    6 Ramirez, A CWS SS 98 379 39 102 15 3 4 48 10 53 13 3 .269 .289 .356 .646
    7 Youkilis, K CWS 3B 28 103 21 27 4 0 6 22 18 22 0 0 .262 .374 .476 .850
    8 Viciedo, D CWS RF 93 322 38 83 10 1 16 50 17 73 0 0 .258 .300 .444 .744
    9 Beckham, G CWS 2B 97 356 45 82 17 0 9 38 23 62 3 2 .230 .283 .354 .637
    10 Dunn, A CWS 1B 100 353 64 76 13 0 31 73 77 150 2 1 .215 .356 .516 .871
    11 Escobar, E CWS SS 36 87 14 18 4 1 0 3 9 23 2 0 .207 .281 .276 .557
    12 Humber, P CWS P 2 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .400
    13 Flowers, T CWS C 33 88 10 16 4 0 2 2 6 39 2 0 .182 .250 .295 .545
    14 Hudson, O CWS 3B 33 101 7 18 3 2 1 11 9 16 1 1 .178 .245 .277 .523
    15 Morel, B CWS 3B 35 113 14 20 2 0 0 5 7 39 4 1 .177 .225 .195 .420
    16 Lillibridge, B CWS RF 49 63 10 11 1 0 0 2 4 26 7 2 .175 .232 .190 .422
    Comments 83 Comments
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by kydoty View Post
      Doubt. Danny's got a long ways to go to match Trevor in productivity.
      I know, that was said tongue in cheek, but it is human nature to not want your temporary replacement to outshine you in any way. Management might start getting ideas...
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Memo: Pitchers Duel Cancelled
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Watching Youklis hit makes me angry. Why would anyone ever try that and say I'm comfortable.
    1. GCTF's Avatar
      GCTF -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      I would rather have Danny around on the bench to hit lefties than Butera on the bench to do nothing.
      Blasphemy, I tells ya.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Watching Youklis hit makes me angry. Why would anyone ever try that and say I'm comfortable.
      RB - Not watching the game on TV tonight. Are you talking about his wacktastic batting stance?
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Yes... No Hitting Coach is going to say... Kevin have you thought about holding the bat with one hand and tilting directly over your head.

      Seriously... How does a stance become that.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      I would rather have Danny around on the bench to hit lefties than Butera on the bench to do nothing.
      Crazy thought on Velencia.... Turn him into a catcher this off season. He can become that 3rd catcher slash insurance guy. Only play at catcher in emergencies. Otherwise backup at 3rd and first.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      I couldn't tell you... but somehow he has made it work for the most part.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
      I couldn't tell you... but somehow he has made it work for the most part.
      Yeah... He has hit very well... No doubt... I can't help but wonder if he could have hit even better with a normal set up.
    1. Willihammer's Avatar
      Willihammer -
      Mauer's 2012 spluits:

      .322/.405/.448 vs RHP
      .340/.445/.443 vs. LHP

      Better than 90% of switch hitters
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Nice catch Danny... Atta boy. And now Carroll with a nice play... The Twins are going to win this game... I'm calling it. With defense like that it's over.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Yeah... He has hit very well... No doubt... I can't help but wonder if he could have hit even better with a normal set up.
      I doubt it. I'm sure at some point in his career coaches tried to get him to use a more traditional stance/swing, only to give up and let him hit in the way that feels natural to him. Some people are just like that - they only succeed when they are allowed to be unconventional.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
      I doubt it. I'm sure at some point in his career coaches tried to get him to use a more traditional stance/swing, only to give up and let him hit in the way that feels natural to him. Some people are just like that - they only succeed when they are allowed to be unconventional.
      Could be... Although I will never understand how that feels natural. If that's natural... He probably eats dinner with his feet.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Yeah... He has hit very well... No doubt... I can't help but wonder if he could have hit even better with a normal set up.
      That's a great question, but a question we will never get an answer to. When I was in my early teens, there was a guy I played with that had a somewhat similar batting set up... he had some power, but couldn't hit worth a "bleep". I guess Ichiro could fall into this category - but it is a bit of a different story. I guess these guys pop up from time to time. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Nice catch Danny... Atta boy. And now Carroll with a nice play... The Twins are going to win this game... I'm calling it. With defense like that it's over.
      River Brian. I have to agree. Tonight's air has the feeling of a Twins victory!
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
      River Brian. I have to agree. Tonight's air has the feeling of a Twins victory!
      On top of that the hose are not looking sharp. De Aza bumbled that play allowing an extra base. Earlier Rameriz was flat footed on a grounder.

      Put it on the board. Twins will win.
    1. Willihammer's Avatar
      Willihammer -
      CWS defense is so bad, not even elementary baserunning biffs can destroy a rally.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Bad baserunning by Doumit but he tried like hell to stay Alive in the rundown. So a little credit to go along with a big debit.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Oops... Spoke too soon. Dozier has to get over these yips.
    1. Badsmerf's Avatar
      Badsmerf -
      Why are you guys drunk on a Monday? This is getting weird.
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