• Quick Hits: Pavano's injury, Hendriks recalled & Mastroianni to second?


    Word spread on Tuesday that Carl Pavano had been re-diagnosed with a bruise on his humerus bone. Pavano, who had made two appearances with the Fort Myers Miracle in hopes of rehabbing what was assumed to be a strained shoulder, told reporters that heís frustrated that it took several months to get the diagnosis correct but is happy that it does not require surgery to heal.
    The Star Tribuneís La Velle Neal writes that the Twins medical staff should be exonerated in the case of Pavanoís missed diagnosis. The staff teamed with specialist Dr. David Altchek, who agreed with the original diagnosis of the strained shoulder capsule, conferred with the teamís doctors thorough his rehab and saw every MRI the Twins performed on Pavano.

    Said Twins Assistant GM Rob Antony:


    "All along our doctors and Altchek have conferred on everything. To me, I'm not sure how many more medical opinions you can get on this guy, or more tests done or whatever, than we did."
    Considering it will take rest and that September is fast approaching, the likelihood Pavano is seen again in a Twins uniform in 2012 is almost non-existent.


    Speaking of injured pitchers, Pedro Henandez, one of two players acquired in the Francisco Liriano trade, left Tuesday nightís game one batter into the third inning. Through his four starts in the Twins organization, Hernandez has thrown 17.1 innings and posted an 11-to-1 strikeout-to-walk ratio with opponents hitting .342 off of him.


    The Twins will be summoning pitcher Liam Hendriks from Rochester for the third time this season. Hendriksí performance between the two levels could not be any more night and day. In his 8 games with the Twins this year, heís 0-5 with a 7.04 ERA in 38.1 innings. In Rochester, heís made 16 starts and is 9-3 with an International League-leading 2.20 ERA in 106.1 innings pitched. So whatís the biggest difference? Itís a variety of things, Hendriks explains in his interview with MinorLeagueBall.comís John Sickels.

    One glaring statistical difference is that Hendriks has not allowed the ball to leave the park in AAA in comparison to his big league stints. While in Rochester, just 3% of fly balls have become home runs whereas 12% of flies with Minnesota have resulted in dingers.


    Twins second basemen are hitting .213/.270/.272 (542 OPS) collectively this year -- well below the baseball standard for the position of .254/.317/.380 (697 OPS) -- yet Ron Gardenhire is not willing to give Darin Mastroianni a trial at the keystone.

    Gardy told the PiPressís John Shipley:

    ďHeís an emergency second baseman. Heís not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the managerís out there taking all the throws when heís fielding groundballs and itís a work in progress. Heís an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and thatís because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. Thatís what happens.Ē

    Twins reliever Alex Burnett is the only qualified reliever in baseball to have more walks (23) than strikeouts (22) yet, somehow, he manages to have a respectable stat line including a 3.11 ERA Ė thanks in part to a 74.5% left-on-base rate and a .249 batting average on balls in play. Interestingly, just five of Burnettís 62 fly balls allowed have become hits (.082 batting average vs .228 AL fly ball average) helping suppress that batting average on balls in play.


    Twins PR man, Dustin Morse, tweeted out that Ben Revere is just one stolen base shy of stealing 30 bags in consecutive seasons. If-slash-when Revere nabs his 30th of the year he will join Cesar Tovar, Rod Carew and Chuck Knoblauch as the only Twins to have accomplished that feat.


    Following an 0-for-3 night at the plate Ė in which one plate appearance included banging into a triple play Ė Trevor Plouffe is now 2-for-29 (.068).


    Even though he took the loss, Cole Devries left Tuesdayís game relatively unscathed considering his 2.24 home runs per nine innings was the highest rate among those with a minimum of 60 innings pitched this year. Of course, working in the O.co Coliseum whose three-year park factor for home runs is 80 (very pitcher-friendly), it takes some hard work to give up bombs in Oakland at night.
    This article was originally published in blog: Quick Hits: Pavano's injury, Hendriks recalled & Mastroianni to second? started by Parker Hageman
    Comments 16 Comments
    1. Winston Smith's Avatar
      Winston Smith -
      The Twins front office has started to circle the wagons after the Pavano thing. PR talking points will be flying all over to cover their arses!
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      “He’s an emergency second baseman. He’s not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the manager’s out there taking all the throws when he’s fielding groundballs and it’s a work in progress. He’s an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and that’s because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. That’s what happens.”

      Basically what I have been trying to say for weeks now... the notion that the Blue Jays moved a capable 2nd baseman to the OF is/was laughable.
    1. crarko's Avatar
      crarko -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      ďHeís an emergency second baseman. Heís not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the managerís out there taking all the throws when heís fielding groundballs and itís a work in progress. Heís an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and thatís because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. Thatís what happens.Ē

      Basically what I have been trying to say for weeks now... the notion that the Blue Jays moved a capable 2nd baseman to the OF is/was laughable.
      Yeah, that does explain a great deal. In that case either Dozier or Florimon should get some reps in at second.
    1. Fire Dan Gladden's Avatar
      Fire Dan Gladden -
      Contrary to popular belief, it is possible that the team's medical staff did everything right and it was still missed.

      Can't say that though as I could be labeled as a Twins homer...
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden View Post
      Contrary to popular belief, it is possible that the team's medical staff did everything right and it was still missed.

      Can't say that though as I could be labeled as a Twins homer...

      I don't think anyone is saying this is impossible. Medical staffs do make mistakes on every team. The problem with the Twins is that there seems to be A LOT of mistakes.... and some of them (like Wimmers, Neshek, and Gibson's TJ surgeries) have been very predictable.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      I don't think anyone is saying this is impossible. Medical staffs do make mistakes on every team. The problem with the Twins is that there seems to be A LOT of mistakes.... and some of them (like Wimmers, Neshek, and Gibson's TJ surgeries) have been very predictable.
      As an outsider looking in (one who has virtually no knowledge of medicine), my biggest problem boils down to "learning from mistakes". We make jokes about TJ surgery based on past results and two months later, boom, the player is getting TJ surgery.

      Is this normal? I have no idea but it sure seems like they should be learning from previous incidents and jumping on these injuries more quickly at this point. But, again, like almost every other poster on this board, I'm not in the position to make a truly qualified statement on the subject.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      ďHeís an emergency second baseman. Heís not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the managerís out there taking all the throws when heís fielding groundballs and itís a work in progress. Heís an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and thatís because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. Thatís what happens.Ē

      Basically what I have been trying to say for weeks now... the notion that the Blue Jays moved a capable 2nd baseman to the OF is/was laughable.
      Gardy's word is good enough for me... I always suspected that it was something like that or it would have been done already.

      All in All... It's too bad... I was really hoping for some Mastro at 2b... And Hoping for it to work out. I like him as a player and he's about to get overrun by Arcia, Hicks and the like.

      Easy answers are tough to find. I'll keep trying.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      “He’s an emergency second baseman. He’s not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the manager’s out there taking all the throws when he’s fielding groundballs and it’s a work in progress. He’s an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and that’s because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. That’s what happens.”

      Basically what I have been trying to say for weeks now... the notion that the Blue Jays moved a capable 2nd baseman to the OF is/was laughable.
      Gardy's word is good enough for me... I always suspected that it was something like that or it would have been done already.

      All in All... It's too bad... I was really hoping for some Mastro at 2b... And Hoping for it to work out. I like him as a player and he's about to get overrun by Arcia, Hicks and the like.

      Easy answers are tough to find. I'll keep trying.
      Given Mastro's play, I don't think Hicks & Co. will hurt him much. They are all everyday players while Mastro has fourth outfielder written all over him. If he can learn to play second in a pinch, he's an excellent OF/2B/PR option for the team and definitely has a place on this roster.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      I don't think anyone is saying this is impossible. Medical staffs do make mistakes on every team. The problem with the Twins is that there seems to be A LOT of mistakes.... and some of them (like Wimmers, Neshek, and Gibson's TJ surgeries) have been very predictable.
      As an outsider looking in (one who has virtually no knowledge of medicine), my biggest problem boils down to "learning from mistakes". We make jokes about TJ surgery based on past results and two months later, boom, the player is getting TJ surgery.

      Is this normal? I have no idea but it sure seems like they should be learning from previous incidents and jumping on these injuries more quickly at this point. But, again, like almost every other poster on this board, I'm not in the position to make a truly qualified statement on the subject.
      I guess my question is what is considered the medical standard for treatment in these cases. In most areas of medicine, surgery is considered the option of last resort, because of the potential for complications for even a routine surgery. If there is a chance the injury can be healed without it, it's usually best to try. The complicating factor here, of course, is the lost playing time. In these cases the speed of recovery becomes a factor along with the completeness of the recovery. Should the medically standard treatment plan be different for ballplayers than for the rest of us? I don't know - it's a valid question.
    1. mbents's Avatar
      mbents -
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden View Post
      Contrary to popular belief, it is possible that the team's medical staff did everything right and it was still missed.

      Can't say that though as I could be labeled as a Twins homer...

      I don't think anyone is saying this is impossible. Medical staffs do make mistakes on every team. The problem with the Twins is that there seems to be A LOT of mistakes.... and some of them (like Wimmers, Neshek, and Gibson's TJ surgeries) have been very predictable.
      These pitchers having TJ surgery wasn't the result of a mistake by the Twins' medical staff, was it? Surgery was the outcome as a last resort. I don't see a problem with being cautious and hoping that rest & rehab works. What bothers me about the medical staff - and really the Twins organization in general - is when a day-to-day injury turns into a 15-day DL stay, after the player has already been out for a week.
    1. USAFChief's Avatar
      USAFChief -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      ďHeís an emergency second baseman. Heís not as skilled; he would have a lot to work on at second base. I take all the throws with him, so you can tell your (readers) the managerís out there taking all the throws when heís fielding groundballs and itís a work in progress. Heís an emergency infielder. He was an infielder and was moved to the outfield, and thatís because a lot of the balls ended up in the outfield anyway. Thatís what happens.Ē

      Basically what I have been trying to say for weeks now... the notion that the Blue Jays moved a capable 2nd baseman to the OF is/was laughable.
      I posted the same thing in one of the "Mastro to 2nd" threads. Teams don't move a player off a middle infield position, particularly in A ball, unless they're forced to do so.

      Turning ground balls into outs is much harder than turning fly balls into outs. Much, much harder. Not every player can do that. Most major league position players were SS"s at one point and had to move as they progressed out of little league, or high school, or the low minors. Major league middle infielders make it look easy (well...except Nishioka...) but its not.

      In an emergency for an inning, or perhaps even a game? Yeah, adds a bit of value to Mastros role as a bench player. Everyday 2nd baseman? Seriously doubt it.
    1. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
      IdahoPilgrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by mbents View Post

      These pitchers having TJ surgery wasn't the result of a mistake by the Twins' medical staff, was it? Surgery was the outcome as a last resort. I don't see a problem with being cautious and hoping that rest & rehab works. What bothers me about the medical staff - and really the Twins organization in general - is when a day-to-day injury turns into a 15-day DL stay, after the player has already been out for a week.
      The problem comes when it is not immediately obvious how long it will be before the player can perform. Every body heals slightly differently, and sometimes all you can do is trial-and-error (in the batting cage, on the field, etc) to tell when a player is ready to return.

      Can you imagine the outcry on this site (and others) if the Twins regularly put players on the 15-day DL immediately, only to have them ready to play in three days and have to sit another twelve for no reason? As long as we're not chasing a playoff spot and having a short bench doesn't mean all that much, there's little cost in waiting a week - you can always backdate the DL placement up to 10 days, so the player doesn't miss any more time whether you place them on it immediately or a week later.
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      of all the things to complain about, I'm not sure the time to DL is one of them. In all, it probably costs them a couple more games than they'd like, but it's hardly a team killer. It would be a bigger deal during a penant race, but the problem with day to day injuries, is that they are just that. No one has a crystal ball that says that Span is still going to be in pain a week later. That's the nature of injuries like that. My bigger concern is constantly muffing up the big things.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      of all the things to complain about, I'm not sure the time to DL is one of them. In all, it probably costs them a couple more games than they'd like, but it's hardly a team killer.
      If everybody else does their job it's ok if the medical staff ****s up the small stuff.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      Too bad Mastro doesn't have what it takes, would've really helped this roster's glaring holes. Oh well.
    1. Montecore's Avatar
      Montecore -
      Too bad about Mastroianni. It'd be nice if he could develop the skill set to play the position.
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