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No More Room At The Twins Inn

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As AA Twins become AAA Twins, Room for AAAA players is becoming more scarce. With many 30 plus "prospects" called up this year, and several more failing to get called from Rochester, there will be many players released into oblivion this off season. Before even considering Free Agents (Please Ryan, Sign some Free Agents) If I was General Manager, I would have to make the following decisions:

Starting Pitching:
Andrew Albers, Kevin Correia, Sam Deduno, Scott Diamond, Cole DeVries, Liam Hendricks, Pedro Hernandez, Lester Oliveros, Mike Pelfrey, PJ Walters, Nick Blackburn, Kyle Gibson, Vance Worley

See a problem? With Logan Darnell, Trevor May, and Pat Dean already called up to AAA, at least 6 of these need to be cut or moved to the bull pen this off season assuming we do not sign any free agents. (I'm hoping we sign at least two...) So who do we cut?

Pelfrey and Blackburn are already gone. PJ Walters and I believe Cole DeVries are going to be following them out the door as soon as the post season is over.

The obvious keepers are Gibson and Correia. Now you have to fill in the best of the rest. At this point (based on who is and has been here) the best of the rest... Sam Deduno. This is a less than impressive start thus the cry for free agent signings.

Andrew Albers has earned a shot but age is against him. Liam Hendricks has his 30 starts and has not impressed. Worley, Hernandez, Oliveros, Diamond all seem to demand another shot but there is only so much room to go around. If I was a betting man, I would guess that Hernandez, Oliveros, and Hendricks are either gone or pushed into long relief, spot starter jobs in Rochester or gone.

That leaves us with Albers, Worley, and Diamond trying to win two spots this spring. If we sign a free agent, Albers age and lack of impressive stuff probably pushes him out of the organization.

My point? There just is not room to keep all these AAAA pitchers. We lack a true starting five yet have to start cutting in a big way. Thank you gentleman for giving us your best, good luck and good bye!
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  1. gil4's Avatar
    DeVries, Hernandez, Walters, Blackburn can go. I'm not sure exactly how you arrived at 6, but Darnell and Pat Dean can go too, if we really are out of room. I hadn't thought about Oliveros because he has been hurt, but when healthy he misses bats, although he has never been very effective for an extended period. Also, you have him listed as a starter, but he hasn't started a game since age 18 in the VeSL.

    Only DeVries and Hernandez are on the 40-man. There is plenty of dead weight from AA through MLB, and finding roster slots for free agents won't be a problem. (Prioritizing might be.) There is always someone hurt and some of these guys are at the point where starting isn't working. Too many marginal players is easy to fix. I want to know who the good players are who will take their places - that's the real problem.
  2. goulik's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by gil4
    DeVries, Hernandez, Walters, Blackburn can go. I'm not sure exactly how you arrived at 6, but Darnell and Pat Dean can go too, if we really are out of room. I hadn't thought about Oliveros because he has been hurt, but when healthy he misses bats, although he has never been very effective for an extended period. Also, you have him listed as a starter, but he hasn't started a game since age 18 in the VeSL.

    Only DeVries and Hernandez are on the 40-man. There is plenty of dead weight from AA through MLB, and finding roster slots for free agents won't be a problem. (Prioritizing might be.) There is always someone hurt and some of these guys are at the point where starting isn't working. Too many marginal players is easy to fix. I want to know who the good players are who will take their places - that's the real problem.
    I listed 16 pitchers for 10 MLB and AAA slots. That is 6 too many and with all the AAAA talent, a lot of names we have been hearing are going to be gone. It is just interesting to me (and maybe some others out there) to ponder who all will be gone and how quickly. Mostly since there is not much left to watch...
  3. goulik's Avatar
    In my series of posts, I omitted Relief Pitchers intentionally. I think that part of the Inn was not open this year as we actually sent out MLB talent and there were not AAAA placeholders in play in the bullpen
  4. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    My point? There just is not room to keep all these AAAA pitchers. We lack a true starting five yet have to start cutting in a big way. Thank you gentleman for giving us your best, good luck and good bye!

    It is appropriate to thank these young men and wish them well.
    I also think it is appropriate to move on. Sign some other players and try to catch lightning in a bottle.

    Perhaps today Pedro Hernandez is better than Minnie von Moocher, but Pedro is not a long term answer. Let's see how Minnie does.

    And I really agree that it would be terribly wrong to block any of the younger kids because we are hanging on to guys who have topped out at AAA. Tough choices, but they have to be made.

  5. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    * should probably note *
    The 'catch lightning in a bottle' reference is a tacky and tasteless way I refer to what I think the Twins do way too much of every year.

    I would rather they signed players who were clearly going to be an upgrade.
    But that's just me.
  6. goulik's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgoat_MN


    I would rather they signed players who were clearly going to be an upgrade.
    But that's just me.
    I agree oldgoat, time to sign some real keepers in free agency especially given the salaries and coming salaries. We could spend 40 million per year on free agency and sign those free agents for 3-5 years and most everyone coming up is going to be real cheap still for that time period keeping the payroll in the 100-110 range long term which is about where it ought to be
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