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Joe Mauer is tied for the 8th highest salary in baseball in 2014. Could this be the worst money spent by a team in 2014? I want to say that I am a Joe Mauer fan. I have said from the beginning, I think the Twins needed to sign him, even though I wasn't a fan of what he was going to be paid. I also believe we should have attempted to trade him in 2012. Can I be a fan, blame the Twins, but also say they had to sign him all at the same time? I am not sure I can be fair on this, but I was always going to be in favor of having Joe Mauer as our catcher. I would have loved a trade, knowing Joe Mauer was going to be our John Olerud. Here is the list of the top 10 salaries in baseball:

Zack Greinke-- Dodgers
Cliff Lee-- Phillies
Ryan Howard-- Phillies
Prince Fielder-- Rangers
Robinson Canoe-- Mariners
Cole Hamels-- Phillies
Mark Teixeira-- Yankees
CC Sabathia-- Yankees
Joe Mauer-- Twins
Albert Pujols-- Angels

That is the top 10 all making over $20 million a season. Doesn't it seem all of those players are past the prime, and most of the teams aren't going to make the playoffs.

The first 13 games count in a MLB season. The reason why fans and media are all over Mauer is the fact that he isn't the Joe Mauer he once was at all this season, and it isn't looking any better. Pitchers aren't really afraid of him, in fact they are much more aggressive against him knowing they can strike him out, knowing that he isn't going to hit a home run. Joe Mauer isn't going to swing at the first pitch. Mauer has a .754 OPS, which ranks 17th among first basemen, he has a .3 WAR, which ranks 18th among first basemen. Mauer ranks 20th in SLG %. He has been struck out 16 times, wait 17th, as I watch him K again, that would be 5th most of all first basemen. He isn't even close to hitting the baseball very hard. I think it is going to get old watching our 23 million dollar man hit squeaking base hits to left field. More than that it is going to get old not seeing any type of games where he gets the big double, or HR.

If Joe Mauer was "every day" Joe, would the fans/media be talking about him more, NO. Reality is he is the 8th highest paid player in the game right now, and Minnesota should expect more out of him, RIGHT? I really don't think anybody is out of line talking poorly about #MarkRosen'sSon Joe Mauer. Mauer needs to take some heat, and I don't have any issues putting it on him at this point. It is time to eliminate the #MinnesotaNice when it comes to Mauer. The Twins lone All Star so far would maybe be Chris Colabello, our 505k a year guy, who could be making over a million $'s in Japan, yet we are going to give our $23 million guy a break. Bull****. All of the jerseys I have in my closet that I wear have the #7 on them, reality is Perkins is my favorite player, but I have been a fan of what Mauer has done, and he needs to get some heat put on him, including all of the fans that are paying for watching his service.

Here is my suggestion to Joe Mauer:

If you can learn how to hit the baseball with 2 strikes, you can learn to hit the ball in a hitters count at 0-0

Take responsibility on your performances, and show some emotion. Everyday Joe is boring, Everyday Eddie was fun to watch!!

Be a vocal leader and put this team on your back, we are relying on Colabello, Kubel, Plouffe to hold the offense afloat, and we had to sign Jason Bartlett as a clubhouse guy because you won't do it. C'MON!!!

I think Joe Mauer is getting a Minnesota pass right now and it better not last very long. I don't care if the Twins win 90 games or lose 90 games, if you are by far the highest paid player on the team you need to act, play, and be counted on in every aspect of the game, Joe isn't doing that right now!!!!

Is 13 games into a season too early to make a judgement, maybe, but I haven't seen this kind of futility from Joe ever, and I have a bad feeling we are not going to get the productive season we need from Joe, and we may have the worst contract among MLB players this season. Let's hope not!!
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  1. twinsfan34's Avatar
    Watching him strikeout...over and over.

    I gotta think that concussion, ball to the head, did more than we think it did. He's not old enough for this kind of decline.

    Puckett was never the same after getting hit in the head, neither was Morneau. Mauer...could be the same thing perhaps.
  2. Seth Stohs's Avatar
    That is the top 10 all making over $20 million a season. Doesn't it seem all of those players are past the prime, and most of the teams aren't going to make the playoffs.
    That's the nature of free agency. Generally speaking, free agents are already past their prime and get overpaid. One year, not so bad. Anything over a year or two is likely to be a bad contract. I would put no less than 3 or 4 of those Top 10 contracts as worse than Mauer's.

    I gotta think that concussion, ball to the head, did more than we think it did. He's not old enough for this kind of decline.
    It's 2 weeks into the season. How about we see what he's hitting in a month from now.
  3. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    There have been 13 games this season. Grip . . . get it.
  4. rogrulz30's Avatar
    I think what I get irritated about is if the media asks Gardy about Mauer, the answer is something like, "it's Joe, he is a bit of a funk right now, he came through with a big 2 out single, he'll be back, I am not worried." The media doesn't even show or talk about the questions they ask Mauer, or show them after a tough game. 13 games count if it is 32 degrees or 90 degrees, and when he shows no power, and strikes out 17 times so far, I am concerned, he is in his "prime", and this would be an expected year to put up $23 million a year numbers. Overreaction maybe, at what point does it just become a reality?
  5. tobi0040's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs
    That's the nature of free agency. Generally speaking, free agents are already past their prime and get overpaid. One year, not so bad. Anything over a year or two is likely to be a bad contract. I would put no less than 3 or 4 of those Top 10 contracts as worse than Mauer's.



    It's 2 weeks into the season. How about we see what he's hitting in a month from now.
    The only guy I would trade for Mauer staight up on that list is Cano. I would entertain Hamels.

    But I agree with the consensus here. We are 13 games in. Joe is hitting .280 with a .370 OBP. Not horrible numbers. His other 5,000 plate appearances are not too shabby and no need to panic.
  6. Siehbiscuit's Avatar
    MAJOR OVERREACTION! The numbers will be there at the end of the year. If you want the guy to become Prince Fielder, then you will be disappointed. He is striking out more and likely because he is trying to hit for more power. In regards to the leadership stuff: Making the most money on your team doesn't make you a "leader." Being able to influence others is leadership. His professionalism on and off the field is leadership. He may be a lead by example type of guy. Michael Jordan was the leader of the Bulls, but often wasn't the highest paid player. Money is NOT the issue when it comes to leadership.
  7. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    It's actually quite easy to find worse 13-games stretches in Mauer's career. In fact, doing a really quick look at his game logs, I found a 13-game stretch where he hit .220/.264/.300.

    When was that? From July 5 to July 22 of 2009, his MVP season. Anyone can have a rough patch at any time. It's just easier to see at the beginning of a season.

    I think we've reached the point when it's useless to expect Joe Mauer to be anything more than or other than Joe Mauer. He's not going to fire up the troops, he's not going to swing 0-0 and he's not going to sacrifice contact for home runs. However, he will avoid outs at an elite level, he'll give the franchise a reliable form of quiet leadership and he'll challenge for batting titles nearly every year.

    I've written this before, but is it up to Joe Mauer to change who he is or for us to realize that our expectations aren't going to be met? Have you ever tried changing who you are? It's not easy.
  8. TiberTwins's Avatar
    "...is it up to Joe Mauer to change who he is or for us to realize that our expectations aren't going to be met? Have you ever tried changing who you are? It's not easy."
    This, TOTALLY this.
  9. Pius Jefferson's Avatar
    He won't sacrifice contact for home runs, but he's certainly doing so for more strikeouts.
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