That is what will happen
That is what will happen
there is an often skipped fact:
Gladden was a below average player. His career slashline is: .270/.324/.382 once he stole 32 bases (but was caught 15 times). Great 1987 post-season, sucked in 1991 post-season
So when he is on his high horse about Ben Revere...
Am I correct that the 2 they fired were a 64-year-old white man and a 60-year old African-American while the gentlemen they retained (even if reassigned) were all white and younger than 60?
A call to the EEOC is probably in order.
No, that's the info we already know.Quote:
More information here.
Look, you admit you are guessing. You don't know what happened and what people were told and for what reasons.Quote:
What the Twins' did yesterday, was not "mishandling" it was "misleading". And I do suspect that other things came up. (like maybe the manager of the millennium threatening to quit if all of his buddies were not back and/or if Molitor was considered).
I understand that the ones retained weren't all that much younger.
I just think that the picking and choosing that they did was interesting.
And no matter what, Liddle chose to announce in advance that he was retiring so technically the non-renewal of his contract was his choice.
My understanding is that Molitor didn't like being a coach when he was with Seattle because of the time living there and being on the road. He took a job as a roving instructor because he could be home more and just drop in on other towns. Now that his family has aged, he is more available to the day-to-day travel grind of baseball. Or so I seem to remember.
From the PP:
Hitting coach Joe Vavra and bench coach Scott Ullger will stay with the Twins but with new job assignments. Vavra will become the team's infield coach, while Ullger will become the outfield coach. Ryan said both are likely to take on added responsibilities that could involve coaching first or third base. Gardenhire would make those decisions.
Well, this argument is about semantics apparently.
It is pretty clear from that quote that Vavra and Ullger have merely been reassigned (new positions created) but it is also clear thtat they WERE NOT FIRED or NON-RENEWED.
And we all remember seeing how good Ullger was as the 3B coach a couple of years ago (heaven help us).
But yep, this was pretty much a public relations ploy and nothing else.
Leaves me with very little respect for this organization or those who run it.
Did anyone really expect different? It starts with the top and there needs to be some new blood.
This whole fiasco has been mishandled.
Some said Gardy threatened to quit if Anderson was canned which should have happened--the Twins have the worst pitching...I wonder also if he threatened to walk (go to Cleveland) if Vavra was gone (he has done a good job. I also wonder if Mauer and Morneau spoke up for Vavra...
This is a mess...I also think press premature running of rumors makes it look worse than it is...of course the press does that routinely.
The worst thing about this is the impact on the offseason restocking of the roster. Any chance a decent pitcher would come here as a free agent is gone--he knows that Andy and Gardy are lame ducks. Morneau's slight trade value (14 million contract, one concussion from forced retirement) has dropped cause he is unhappy. Just a mess.
, or Ullger. My votes for Gene Glynn.
I guess I saw that Vavra and Ullger were reassigned from the get-go. The Twins are going to have a new hitting coach and a new bullpen coach. I don't know if anyone is guaranteed a job (Brunansky, Cuellar, and Glynn). In the coaching staff, they need to get younger, add at least one Hispanic coach and maybe someone that changes the atmosphere a little.
I don't think the coaches should be scapegoats, but making changes after losing 195 games in two years should happen. The dynamics of the staff changes aren't available to us. I don't want to speculate and I don't think it is fair to do so.