Thread: Twins Claim RHP Josh Roenicke, IF Thomas Field from Colorado

Originally Posted by thrylos98

Baltimore is going to have the 2010 Twins' DP combo next season...

Tommy Field is more like Nick Punto than Pedro Florimon. Generously listed at 5'8". I just do not understand these 2 waiver picks since they do take space and they are not any better than anything the Twins' have. Roenicke has a Reds' connection so maybe that was part of it (Krivsky)

AAA filler. Roenicke may have an outside chance as a long man out of the bullpen. Don't expect either of these guys to be on the 40-man for very long, both will be DFA'd in the near future with the hopes of keeping them in the organization. AAA filler is not a bad thing, not every single move will instantly upgrade your team.

Originally Posted by Seth Stohs

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...medium=twitter

Hardball Talk gives the Twins an A for the Roenicke claim.

I think he looks a lot better than Jeff Gray

Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden

Originally Posted by thrylos98

Baltimore is going to have the 2010 Twins' DP combo next season...

Tommy Field is more like Nick Punto than Pedro Florimon. Generously listed at 5'8". I just do not understand these 2 waiver picks since they do take space and they are not any better than anything the Twins' have. Roenicke has a Reds' connection so maybe that was part of it (Krivsky)

AAA filler. Roenicke may have an outside chance as a long man out of the bullpen. Don't expect either of these guys to be on the 40-man for very long, both will be DFA'd in the near future with the hopes of keeping them in the organization. AAA filler is not a bad thing, not every single move will instantly upgrade your team.

Their is a wrench to this:

Apparently Roenicke is arbitration-eligible... so he is here to stay (or be moved before next month.)

Looking at his splits in Colorado, he was great away from Coors Field ( .240 .330 .347) and killed lefties in general (.231 .315 .331) . That's an odd split, but TR said he wanted another lefty, maybe this will fill that hole, with a chance at being better than that if Coors was a big part of his struggles. The peripherals aren't promising otherwise, but there's reason to think he might be a decent addition.

Taking a pitcher from the worst pitching team in baseball is always thrilling. The infielder claim looks interesting since he wouldn't have much competition to earn a spot. Although, I doubt he is much of value.

Roenicke seems like a great pick up. He put up a 3.25 ERA while pitching the majority of his games at Coors Field. He seems like a better option then many of our current relievers.

Neither one of these players is a major league worthy player. Roenicke is not very good at all and is 30 years old. This is EXACTLY like the Jeff Gray signing. There is no point for this kind of nonsense from this organization. These are merely sub-replacement level players. Why on earth would the Twins bother with these guys? If Anthony Swarzak, Alex Burnett and Kyle Waldrop are add-ins for some trade in the works involving somebody, then OK it makes a modicum of sense. Otherwise, why bother with these guys. There are 23-26-year-olds who amount to the same thing but might improve given an opportunity to develop.

Originally Posted by Craig in MN

Looking at his splits in Colorado, he was great away from Coors Field ( .240 .330 .347) and killed lefties in general (.231 .315 .331) . That's an odd split, but TR said he wanted another lefty, maybe this will fill that hole, with a chance at being better than that if Coors was a big part of his struggles. The peripherals aren't promising otherwise, but there's reason to think he might be a decent addition.

I agree. Sure he's not that great, but nor are we paying him like a superstar. And if Coors Field is the source of some of his issues, as it may well be, this could end up working out in our favor. This is a solid, very low-risk signing. The Jeff Gray comparison doesn't seem terribly apt to me.

Originally Posted by Shane Wahl

Neither one of these players is a major league worthy player. Roenicke is not very good at all and is 30 years old. This is EXACTLY like the Jeff Gray signing. There is no point for this kind of nonsense from this organization. These are merely sub-replacement level players. Why on earth would the Twins bother with these guys? If Anthony Swarzak, Alex Burnett and Kyle Waldrop are add-ins for some trade in the works involving somebody, then OK it makes a modicum of sense. Otherwise, why bother with these guys. There are 23-26-year-olds who amount to the same thing but might improve given an opportunity to develop.

Check your stats. Roeneke may not have high upside but he is slightly above replacement level. Even with the terrible Coors Field stats his career results are far superior to Gray's. Mid 90's fastball and a decent bullpen coach could make for a huge improvement in his pitching.

Seems like a good move to me, nothing to get upset about anyway. Roencike managed to put up a 2 WAR season in Col. There was enough gnashing of teeth last year over the Burton and Fien signings that I'm not going to complain about an early November move. The team still has plenty of options with both players and plenty of space on the 40 man roster, if that comes into play.

I have a feeling Roenicke could be a diamond in the rough. away splits are pretty good and we all know that coors field is not a pitchers friend. here's the link to view the splits http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...jo01&year=&t=p