Thread: Royals signed Jeremy Guthrie

Originally Posted by Badsmerf

That contract doesn't look horrible to me, kind of what I would expect really. Thats why I say spend the money and get Grienke. Don't **** around with mediocre pitchers like Guthrie.

I'm not surprised by the amount, but the length.

Bad clubs have to take chances and spend more. Twins have issue noted above that they do not look like a contender. That raises prices and reduces the number of FA's who want to play here.

Originally Posted by mike wants wins

Hardballtalk had him as the 35th best free agent this year. If people do not want a guy like him, what are you expecting?

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...

There are 30 teams with multiple holes and the tv contract is adding 20 million next year. What would you expect the 35th best player to get? You all know contract values are going up, right?

This is why I always advocated signing Santana and Hunter for whatever they were asking for. The way salaries skyrocket a lot of deals will end up looking like steals just because of how awful all the new contracts are.

Let him have his $8 million or so per year.

Three years? Hells no.

Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...

It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...

It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.

I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.

Twins havent spent on a FA pitcher as good as Guthrie in 2 decades.....Sid Ponson still upright?

Originally Posted by Badsmerf

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...

It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.

I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.

My understanding is that the sticking point was the option year. The Twins were insistent on one and Baker was adamant against.

I can see it from both sides. With the assumption that Baker pitches well in 2013, the Twins were hoping to get an extra year at a relatively cheap salary. From Baker's standpoint, his next contract is probably going to be his last so he is hoping that he can get a 3/30+ after next season and didn't want to wait an extra year to hit FA again.

Originally Posted by Badsmerf

I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.

My point more was that people are crediting the Twins for not spending that much on Baker. By the end, that credit is going to look really foolish when the pricetags keep rolling in.

From fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...eremy-guthrie/

I fear the Twins will soon celebrate with the Royals.