Thread: Jason Frasor

Originally Posted by old nurse

Robertson is a lefty. Different role.

Amusing, coming from the guy that equated Brian Duensing and Mickey Storey to having the same role.

Originally Posted by snepp

Amusing, coming from the guy that equated Brian Duensing and Mickey Storey to having the same role.

Mickey Story? When was that? a few months ago? Amusing that you would remember that. I am so touched you remember what I write.. Not really. You really remember what people write in detail? Wow.

I have the tendency to remember inane things.

There has been plenty here for you to remember.

Originally Posted by old nurse

There has been plenty here for you to remember.

And a heartfelt "thankyou" for all your efforts in that regard...

Originally Posted by snepp

Amusing, coming from the guy that equated Brian Duensing and Mickey Storey to having the same role.

Doubly amusing, being that he is also claiming that Maholm = Correia

Originally Posted by jokin

And a heartfelt "thankyou" for all your efforts in that regard...

What, no congratulating yourself as well? Unlike you.

Originally Posted by twinsnorth49

Someone asked me to show them where a diatribe was earlier......exhibit A.

Yes, facts are difficult things to argue against, not so hard to characterize.

Originally Posted by jokin

Yes, facts are difficult things to argue against, not so hard to characterize.

1. I've never argued a single "fact" you brought up, stop being defensive.

2. I never said anything about the "facts", just the 1000 words it took to state them.....again.

Originally Posted by old nurse

See Miami for what that does for the integrity of the organization.

Miami Marlins 20 year history as a franchise, 1993-2012: 1504/1668
MN Twins 20 year history record from 1993-2012: 1545/1627

Miami World Series Championships: 2
MN Twins World Series Chamships" 0

Notwithstanding this offseason Marlin debacle, at least Miami historically in the short history of the franchise, has had enough "integrity' to build and rebuild a team from scratch and then go out, under different ownership groups, and attempt (and succeed twice) in a concerted effort at winning it all.

Don't kid yourself in your kneejerk Twins FO defense, both teams are part of the same hypocrisy. Since that's the case, I'll take the 2 WS titles by the Marlins since '97.

Originally Posted by twinsnorth49

1. I've never argued a single "fact" you brought up, stop being defensive.

2. I never said anything about the "facts", just the 1000 words it took to state them.....again.

When someone is perjoratively attacked (not necessarily you) with little-to-nothing to offer in substantive refutation, the facts are the best defense, even if it takes a few extra sentences of reiteration to attempt to knock some sense into the flamethrower. I'd rather discuss and flesh out the issues around a topic, but when non-substantively attacked, I find little aid in your admonishment to stop being defensive (there is no requirement on your part that you read my post as it was directed specifically in response to the attacker), the best defense against an attack is defending yourself with facts.

Originally Posted by twinsnorth49

What, no congratulating yourself as well? Unlike you.

Facts are curious things, indeed.

Look upthread and try to follow more closely, the guy in question admitted himself that he is mostly talking out of his posterior in an attempt to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by jokin

Doubly amusing, being that he is also claiming that Maholm = Correia

Levathian made the point that there were people a team signed who could be traded. In that sense Maholm+Correia. I guess I just didn't make it simple enough or you couldn't follow the thread. I guess next time I will have to write it in the minutest detail for you to understand.

Originally Posted by twinsnorth49

What, no congratulating yourself as well? Unlike you.

jokin missed the sarcasm.

Originally Posted by jokin

Facts are curious things, indeed.

Especially when you make them up!

Originally Posted by jokin

Miami Marlins 20 year history as a franchise, 1993-2012: 1504/1668
MN Twins 20 year history record from 1993-2012: 1545/1627

Miami World Series Championships: 2
MN Twins World Series Chamships" 0

Notwithstanding this offseason Marlin debacle, at least Miami historically in the short history of the franchise, has had enough "integrity' to build and rebuild a team from scratch and then go out, under different ownership groups, and attempt (and succeed twice) in a concerted effort at winning it all.

Don't kid yourself in your kneejerk Twins FO defense, both teams are part of the same hypocrisy. Since that's the case, I'll take the 2 WS titles by the Marlins since '97.

personally i think the twins should sign and trade a little more like miami , that is 1 way to build a farm system

Originally Posted by jokin

Miami Marlins 20 year history as a franchise, 1993-2012: 1504/1668
MN Twins 20 year history record from 1993-2012: 1545/1627

Miami World Series Championships: 2
MN Twins World Series Chamships" 0

Notwithstanding this offseason Marlin debacle, at least Miami historically in the short history of the franchise, has had enough "integrity' to build and rebuild a team from scratch and then go out, under different ownership groups, and attempt (and succeed twice) in a concerted effort at winning it all.

Don't kid yourself in your kneejerk Twins FO defense, both teams are part of the same hypocrisy. Since that's the case, I'll take the 2 WS titles by the Marlins since '97.

Miami launched a new stadium last season and was 18th in attendance. The Twins were awful from day one and still managed to be 12th in attendance in the third season of their new park.

Miami may win occasionally but I have the feeling if you ask around southern Florida what they think of their ownership, the vast majority of Marlins fans would gladly switch places with Twins fans. Our ownership may be cheap but at least they're consistent and don't kick the feet out from under their fanbase every 3-5 years.

This year, the Twins are kicking the feet out from under their Fan Base. Last place Team. Cut the payroll by 20%.
I won't even get into the promises made to the Season Ticket Holders.

There's still some time to change this scenario.

Originally Posted by Highabove

This year, the Twins are kicking the feet out from under their Fan Base. Last place Team. Cut the payroll by 20%.
I won't even get into the promises made to the Season Ticket Holders.

There's still some time to change this scenario.

Don't confuse my statement above with an approval of this offseason. I'm very disappointed that Ryan has failed to sign a legitimate arm for the rotation. Still, that's better than trading off nearly every player making over $1m and not getting much in return. What Ryan got for Span and Revere is better than what the Marlins got for 1/4th their roster.