Thread: Opening Day lineup?

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

My hope is that this scenario plays out and Willingham is dealt at the deadline next year.

By next year, do you mean 2013? If he close to duplicates last year's numbers near the break, his value probably would never be higher as a Twin.

1 Mastroianni CF
2 Carroll SS
3 Mauer C
4 Willingham LF
5 Morneau 1B
6 Doumit DH
7 Plouffe 3B
8 Arcia RF
9 Dozier 2B

Rotation

Harden
Diamond
Worley
Gibson
Correia

Pen

Perkins
Burton
Duensing
Pelfrey
Pressly
Fien
Wood
Swarzak

Bench
Parmalee
Florimon
Escobar


Arcia will be a beast in spring training. So much so that he will win the right field job outright. Parmalee will move in and out of DH, outfield and 1B. Good on the bench for power. Ultimately, Florimon should win the SS position but with a young staff, Carroll is steadier and will also be good for Dozier as a solid veteran for a double play tandem. Plouffe will be fine at third and improvements defensively as the season progresses.

I think we'll be loaded in the outfield and Willingham should be traded at the deadline for more solid pitching prospects and possibly a SS.

Originally Posted by jokin

By next year, do you mean 2013? If he close to duplicates last year's numbers near the break, his value probably would never be higher as a Twin.

Yes, this coming July. I felt he should've been dealt last year. If they pass on that again I think it would be nothing less than stupid. (Pass of course if he's injured or playing poorly, but if he's playing well - he HAS to move this July)

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

Yes, this coming July. I felt he should've been dealt last year. If they pass on that again I think it would be nothing less than stupid. (Pass of course if he's injured or playing poorly, but if he's playing well - he HAS to move this July)

This is open to anyone. When was the last time the Twins were deadline sellers and came away with a net positive deal?
ie: better than:
Kyle Lohse for Zack Ward
Mentkiewicz for Justin Jones
Matt Lawton for Rick Reed
Scott Erickson for Scott Klingenbeck and Kimera Bartee
Aguilera for Frankie Rodriguez & JJ Johnson
Kevin Tapani and Mark Guthrie for Coomdog



In light of these beauties, I'm inclined to think that Escobar and Hernandez for Liriano was pure genius, but I still worry about TR's multitasking abilities.

Yeah, I'm speaking hopefully. Reality is that by the deadline we'll hear something more like this about Willingham:

"Willingham coming off the DL is a lot like making a trade" than actually trading him.

Posednik? Good lord, no. The guy is awful at baseball and a step backward from Mastro.

One thing is for sure, our bench will (once again) be putrid.

Originally Posted by jokin

This is open to anyone. When was the last time the Twins were deadline sellers and came away with a net positive deal?
ie: better than:
Kyle Lohse for Zack Ward
Mentkiewicz for Justin Jones
Matt Lawton for Rick Reed
Scott Erickson for Scott Klingenbeck and Kimera Bartee
Aguilera for Frankie Rodriguez & JJ Johnson
Kevin Tapani and Mark Guthrie for Coomdog



In light of these beauties, I'm inclined to think that Escobar and Hernandez for Liriano was pure genius, but I still worry about TR's multitasking abilities.

2003. We got Stewart and a PTBNL for Kielty.

Originally Posted by ThePuck

2003. We got Stewart and a PTBNL for Kielty.

Yep. A lot of us hated seeing Kielty traded but it worked very well for the Twins and they won that trade handily.

Also, hard to call Lawton for Reed anything other than a wash. It was a fine, though unspectacular, trade for the Twins.

Originally Posted by Top Gun

Don't you think we should have spring training first?

Im guessing that like in the past sping training competition is a ruess and that decisions have already been made on 96%of the players.
maybe the only real spot open is the last bullpen spot , keep a dreg or keep a rule 5

CF- Mastro with Benson getting his chances to take it over
SS- Carroll- most reliable and no better options
C- Mauer
1b- Morneau
LF- Willingham
DH/3b- Doumit or Plouffe
3b/DH- Plouffe or Doumit
RF- Parmelee
2b- Dozier- best upside of the futility INF, Twins give him another chance before letting the others stink

Not a bad line-up really. With a competent rotation this team wouldn't be too bad.

[QUOTE=jokin;81200]This is open to anyone. When was the last time the Twins were deadline sellers and came away with a net positive deal?
ie: better than:
Kyle Lohse for Zack Ward
Mentkiewicz for Justin Jones
Matt Lawton for Rick Reed
Scott Erickson for Scott Klingenbeck and Kimera Bartee
Aguilera for Frankie Rodriguez & JJ Johnson
Kevin Tapani and Mark Guthrie for Coomdog


You forgot Castillo for Butera and another MiL catcher!

Originally Posted by Nick Nelson

1. Hicks CF
2. Mauer C
3. Willingham LF
4. Morneau 1B
5. Doumit DH
6. Plouffe 3B
7. Parmelee RF
8. Dozier 2B
9. Florimon SS

SP: Diamond

Seconded.

What are the opening day lineups for A - A+ - AA & AAA? Curious as to what knowlwdgeable followers might think? Just position players.
CEDAR RAPIDS
FT. MYERS
NEW BRITIAN
ROCHESTER

Outfield
Josh Willingham
Darren Mastroianni
Chris Parmelee
Aaron Hicks

Infield
Justin Morneau
Jamey Carroll
Brian Dozier
Eduardo Escobar
Pedro Florimon
Trevor Plouffe

Catchers
Drew Butera
Ryan Doumit
Joe Mauer

Starting Pitchers
Vance Worley
Scott Diamond
Kevin Correia
Mike Pelfrey
Rich Harden

Relief Pitchers
Alex Burnett
Jared Burton
Pedro Hernandez
Ryan Pressly
Glen Perkins
Nick Blackburn
Casey Fien

Starting lineup
CF Hicks
2B Dozier
CA Mauer
LF Willingham
1B Morneau
3B Plouffe
RF Parmelee
DH Doumit
SS Carroll

That's my starting lineup and roster. Colabello or Romero could replace Florimon with real good springs, but it's Florimon's job to lose.

Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp

Yep. A lot of us hated seeing Kielty traded but it worked very well for the Twins and they won that trade handily.

Also, hard to call Lawton for Reed anything other than a wash. It was a fine, though unspectacular, trade for the Twins.

Not really a wash, although admittedly somewhat unspectacular, I thought the Twins could have done better, usually when you "sell", it's because you want to get a younger prospect with some upside.

Rick Reed WAR ( from after trade to retirement) 2001-03 3.1

Matt Lawton oWAR (from after trade) 2001-05 7.0

Originally Posted by lee_the_twins_fan

Outfield
Josh Willingham
Darren Mastroianni
Chris Parmelee
Aaron Hicks

Infield
Justin Morneau
Jamey Carroll
Brian Dozier
Eduardo Escobar
Pedro Florimon
Trevor Plouffe

Catchers
Drew Butera
Ryan Doumit
Joe Mauer

Starting Pitchers
Vance Worley
Scott Diamond
Kevin Correia
Mike Pelfrey
Rich Harden

Relief Pitchers
Alex Burnett
Jared Burton
Pedro Hernandez
Ryan Pressly
Glen Perkins
Nick Blackburn
Casey Fien

Starting lineup
CF Hicks
2B Dozier
CA Mauer
LF Willingham
1B Morneau
3B Plouffe
RF Parmelee
DH Doumit
SS Carroll

That's my starting lineup and roster. Colabello or Romero could replace Florimon with real good springs, but it's Florimon's job to lose.

I'll be stunned (and pleasantly surprised because that means TR beat enormous odds in Dumpster Dive Roulette) if Pelfrey and Harden are in the rotation for the whole month of April. What scuttlebutt there is out there is that the Twins are "hopeful" that Harden can somehow find some productivity as a reliever and we know about Pelfrey and 11 months out from TJ.

Originally Posted by ThePuck

2003. We got Stewart and a PTBNL for Kielty.

A great acquisition, I left it out because we were most definitely buyers, not sellers, in 03.

Originally Posted by jokin

Not really a wash, although admittedly somewhat unspectacular, I thought the Twins could have done better, usually when you "sell", it's because you want to get a younger prospect with some upside.

Rick Reed WAR ( from after trade to retirement) 2001-03 3.1

Matt Lawton oWAR (from after trade) 2001-05 7.0

The Lawton-for-Reed trade was not a "sell." The Twins were half a game out of first place and trying to shore up their rotation. What selling team trades for a 36-year-old pitcher?