Thread: Murphy: Worley Ready To Go

I find it somewhat interesting that one of Worley's worst days as a pitcher came at Hammond Stadium when he was trying to make the Phils last year. I also find it interesting that off-speed stuff seems to be more critical in the AL...

"For me, there's probably more breaking balls (to throw) in the American League. But in the end, it's still my stuff versus your stuff," he said. "It's just figuring out the hitters in this league."

Minnesota Twins' Vance Worley returns to scene of 'worst outing' - TwinCities.com

I'm very optimistic about Worley. I read a lot of comments about him being a 3 or a 4.

That may be so... Afterall... last year was a very average year numbers wise... But... There was nothing average about his 2011 season. He was very sharp in 2011 and 2012 could be written off as injury related or sophomore jinx related.

Until he shows me differently in 2013... I'm starting the season with the expectation that Worley is what he was in 2011 and will lead this staff and lead it well.

Each pitching staff has an Ace, relative to the other starters.
I believe he is ours.
May was the featured pitcher in that trade, but Worley could be a great addition and he could be a Twin for years.
Let's have it go that way!

I admit I'm optimistic about Worley's talent level too. I just hope the offseason health concerns have been taken care of. I hope bone chips are just bone chips.

I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.661
2nd PA in G as SP	0.72
3rd PA in G as SP	0.843
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.964

Originally Posted by Willihammer

I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.661
2nd PA in G as SP	0.72
3rd PA in G as SP	0.843
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.964

Is that 2012 or career?

Career. He's not exactly treding in the right direction though

2012

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.62
2nd PA in G as SP	0.863
3rd PA in G as SP	0.971
4th+ PA in G as SP	1.064

Originally Posted by Willihammer

I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.661
2nd PA in G as SP	0.72
3rd PA in G as SP	0.843
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.964

Be mindfull that the third and definately the fourth round of numbers would tend to higher due to facing the top of the order and probably missing the bottom. As it would appear that he averages about 6 IP/start, it would be more likely that if he were removed, it would be facing the top of the order. No I did not go back and look at any games..

Outs will tend to be harder to get as guys see more of your pitches, yes, but those numbers suggest to me that his future is in relief.

By comparison

Joe Saunders

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.77
2nd PA in G as SP	0.747
3rd PA in G as SP	0.778
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.72

Anibal

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.697
2nd PA in G as SP	0.648
3rd PA in G as SP	0.81
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.679

McCarthy

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.694
2nd PA in G as SP	0.712
3rd PA in G as SP	0.759
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.766

Marcum

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.657
2nd PA in G as SP	0.728
3rd PA in G as SP	0.737
4th+ PA in G as SP	0.769

It should be noted that the "4th+" figure came in all of 22 plate appearances.

And, as you'd expect, Correia is just as bad

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.725
2nd PA in G as SP	0.722
3rd PA in G as SP	0.868
4th+ PA in G as SP	1.083

Originally Posted by Willihammer

And, as you'd expect, Correia is just as bad

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.725
2nd PA in G as SP	0.722
3rd PA in G as SP	0.868
4th+ PA in G as SP	1.083

Actually he's better, esp. if you minimize the 4th+ PA...

One thing you have to note: Worley was 24 last season. Before his prime. Young pitchers improve and I hope that those numbers change. Marcum is over his prime and the same with Saunders. Hard to compare those guys to a 24 year old

Worley has also never pitched more than 135 or so major league innings...and he pitched in the NL

Originally Posted by Willihammer

I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

You have no faith in two pitching coaches, a former all star catcher as coach, and a former MVP and all star catcher will be able to add to Worley's knowledge and make him a better pitcher?

Originally Posted by Willihammer

Career. He's not exactly treding in the right direction though

2012

Split	OPS
1st PA in G as SP	0.62
2nd PA in G as SP	0.863
3rd PA in G as SP	0.971
4th+ PA in G as SP	1.064

Thanks Hammer... Interesting stats to look at.

He's still on the innings low side... the numbers need to stabalize and I remain hopeful that the numbers stabilize in the right direction as the inning count goes forward.

The Vanimal... I can't wait for April. Let's go.