Thread: Article: Cabrera vs. Trout: The MVP Debate for the Ages

Will someone who knows how to look this up more quickly than I do please post how many hitters have led their league in Batting Average & Home Runs in the same season since 1967?

To me the RBIs tend to go along with the other two stats -- and depend a lot on the quality of teammates but I just wondered if there are hitters in the last 45 years who missed the Triple Crown just because of RBIs?

Originally Posted by JB_Iowa

Will someone who knows how to look this up more quickly than I do please post how many hitters have led their league in Batting Average & Home Runs in the same season since 1967?

zero

WAR, What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing. Say it again, y'all.

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

WAR, What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing. Say it again, y'all.

Thorough, well thought, deeply intriguing, and underlined argument. Nice work.

Originally Posted by Willihammer

Originally Posted by JB_Iowa

Will someone who knows how to look this up more quickly than I do please post how many hitters have led their league in Batting Average & Home Runs in the same season since 1967?

zero

Thanks. I know it's not definitive -- and not the only reason for thinking Miggy should be the MVP -- but it does look like that combination of high average and HR's has become somewhat magical.

Originally Posted by biggentleben

Originally Posted by snepp

I find being an obnoxious jackass to be much preferable over an objective "nerd."

You've convinced me.

POTD nominee

I was going to post something similar then remembered the part about being banninated for slamming others on this board. Otherwise I would have won your coveted award.

Originally Posted by biggentleben

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

WAR, What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing. Say it again, y'all.

Thorough, well thought, deeply intriguing, and underlined argument. Nice work.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Abso...ain%2C+y%27all.

In case that was needed.

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

Originally Posted by biggentleben

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

WAR, What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing. Say it again, y'all.

Thorough, well thought, deeply intriguing, and underlined argument. Nice work.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Abso...ain%2C+y%27all.

In case that was needed.

Oh, I knew the reference quite well.

Originally Posted by JB_Iowa

Originally Posted by Willihammer

Originally Posted by JB_Iowa

Will someone who knows how to look this up more quickly than I do please post how many hitters have led their league in Batting Average & Home Runs in the same season since 1967?

zero

Thanks. I know it's not definitive -- and not the only reason for thinking Miggy should be the MVP -- but it does look like that combination of high average and HR's has become somewhat magical.

Not exactly. In the last 20 years, 27 times a player has led his league in either BA or HR and finished in the top 10 of the other stat:

Matt Kemp 2011 - 3rd BA, 1st HR
Miguel Cabrera 2011 - 1st BA, 10th HR
Josh Hamilton 2010 - 1st BA, 5th HR
Carlos Gonzalez 2010 - 1st BA, 4th HR
Albert Pujols 2010 - 6th BA, 1st HR
Albert Pujols 2009 - 3rd BA, 1st HR
Magglio Ordonez 2007 - 1st BA, 7th HR
Matt Holliday 2007 - 1st BA, 4th HR
Ryan Howard 2006 - 9th BA, 1st HR
Alex Rodriguez 2005 - 2nd BA, 1st HR
Derrek Lee 2005 - 1st BA, 2nd HR
Barry Bonds 2004 - 1st BA, 2nd HR
Adrian Beltre 2004 - 4th BA, 1st HR
Albert Pujols 2003 - 1st BA, 4th HR
Barry Bonds 2002 - 1st BA, 4th HR
Manny Ramirez 2002 - 1st BA, 9th HR
Barry Bonds 2001 - 7th BA, 1st HR
Alex Rodriguez 2001 - 7th BA, 1st HR
Larry Walker 2001 - 1st BA, 9th HR
Larry Walker 1999 - 1st BA, 10th HR
Larry Walker 1997 - 2nd BA, 1st HR
Frank Thomas 1997 - 1st BA, 7th HR
Dante Bichette 1995 - 3rd BA, 1st HR
Albert Belle 1995 - 8th BA, 1st HR
Ken Griffey, Jr. 1994 - 9th BA, 1st HR
Barry Bonds 1993 - 4th BA, 1st HR
Gary Sheffield 1992 - 1st Ba, 3rd HR