Thread: Upton to Atlanta

Originally Posted by FrodaddyG

Upton is signed through 2015. There wasn't any need to rush because of an imminent walk year.

They mean Prado

Originally Posted by ThePuck

They mean Prado

"Arizona had excess outfielders and turned their best one in something before he walked"

Originally Posted by FrodaddyG

"Arizona had excess outfielders and turned their best one in something before he walked"

Yes and they are saying if Prado can't be extended it's a bad trade for them.

'Prado is a pretty solid player but for this to be an okay deal then the DBacks have to sign him to an extension.'

To which the other poster agreed

Originally Posted by ThePuck

Yes and they are saying if Prado can't be extended it's a bad trade for them

They're also saying they traded their best OF (Upton) for something "before he walked". That's not a factor in any of this.

Originally Posted by FrodaddyG

They're also saying they traded their best OF (Upton) for something "before he walked". That's not a factor in any of this.

Well the second guy was...seems he's confused about what the first guy was saying...but whatever

Originally Posted by Mark_RM

I'm not so sure that Delgado's floor isn't more of a very good reliever. He has a good fastball and change, but no breaking ball and iffy control. Even if he tightens up his control so he stays a starter, he's still a 2-pitch guy (also known as a 4 starter).

Yes and no. Derek Lowe was essentially a 2-pitch pitcher, and he was even a staff ace for some time. Yes, Delgado could be an elite reliever as well, but a guy who has a heavy fastball like Delgado does really only need an offspeed pitch along with that fastball to be successful and rack up innings as a starter...that's considered a mid-rotation guy (a mid-rotation starter can be a 2-3-4, depending on the rotation). His delivery is repeatable, fairly fluid, and hides the ball well. His location in the zone is his real issue.

Originally Posted by ThePuck

For those who like the WAR stat:

Just last year, Prado had a WAR of 5.9, Justin Upton 2.5.

Prado at 3B in 2012 with the same offense wouldn't have had the same WAR. He'll be playing 3B for Arizona. Prado's just so much better than the average sloth someone throws in left field that it did skew his left field numbers.

Originally Posted by ThePuck

YOU call the WAR useless. Notice I said FOR THOSE WHO VALUE THE WAR STAT.

1 yr of WAR is nearly useless due to how much the defensive statistics are a factor.
multiple years (3+) of WAR are meaningful.

If you post useless statistics to make an argument then somebody should let you know.

Originally Posted by kab21

1 yr of WAR is nearly useless due to how much the defensive statistics are a factor.
multiple years (3+) of WAR are meaningful.

If you post useless statistics to make an argument then somebody should let you know.

Whatever you say...

Just like when you assume someone is taking sides of an issue when all he does is post a stat for people to ponder, that guy should just tell you to piss off.

Since you seem to know what people are thinking without them saying it, guess what I'm thinking now?

I hope you are thinking about how you cannot post useless stats for people to ponder.

Prado has been signed to an extension...a move that was obviously going to happen.