And, Tanaka started as many games between Apr 2 and Nov 2 as Trevor May did between Apr 5 and Aug 31 (27). He racked up some big pitch counts but certainly all the rest (and the ~6 fewer starts compared to MLB) is a mitigating factor in whatever wear and tear pitching's done to his arm.
Nah, the twins would need to pay $200M to simply get even with the endorsements.
Also, I have spent plenty of money on ALDS tickets to see the Yankees destroy my twins :) I just enjoy being able to get $5 bleacher seats, or $20 tix 3 rows from the field. Also I always buy on stub hub anyways, so it's not like the Yankees are actually getting that money....it's the scalpers and season ticket holders who suffer during a "down year"
And yeah, Tanaka might be the #1 prospect in MLB and he might be worth tens of millions of dollars...
Except the Yankees didn't give him tens of millions. They gave him $150 million. That's Ervin Santana and Matt Garza.
What would you rather have, Tanaka or Santana/Garza?
There is a ton of downside with Tanaka and not much upside when he's paid like Zack Greinke without the experience of Zack Greinke.
Steinbrenner is quoted...on his father's tenure at the helm of the Yankees and then, just sort of a 'we could do this if we wanted to'...so be thankful we don't type of sentiments.
"He didn't have revenue sharing, at least for most of his time," Hank Steinbrenner added. "That's what these people in the sports media don't seem to get. If it wasn't for revenue sharing, we'd have a payroll of $300 million a year if we wanted to. So we're doing this despite having to pay all that revenue sharing."
ESPN Link here.
When's the next collective bargaining agreement?
Their profit for 2012 was $471 million. Not sure that counts TV deal money too. Source: Forbes.
The rules have to work with the players union, they want their money, and they're not as concerned about competition levels - as the ones getting big checks can sign with any team they want. Whether or not they understand that in order for the Yankees to make so much money, they need the collective US involved in the sport.
Which, I wonder, the ramifications of increasing ticket prices...say 10 years down the road as the 'gap' widens amongst the 'haves' and 'have nots' even as far as disposable income.
I haven't gone to as many games as I used to. I do have some more money now as a 'professional', but I prefer to watch most MLB games on TV and pay $15-$20 and sit on the 3rd base dugout for Rough Riders (Rangers AA affiliate) games.
If tickets were that for the Rangers, I'd probably go to 15-30 games a year. They do just fine without me though.
The Yankees, like 'em or not, are still abiding by all the rules. Maybe the rules need to be changed?
Money does not guarantee wins, but it sure helps fill gaps.....and I think the Yankees showed for two decades money can win, oh, and the sox and tigers and rangers all say hi too.
The other owners want revenue sharing more than winning. The price of one year of Ricky Nolasco can buy a couple of minutes of advertising during the Super Bowl, a replica trophy of the World Series, pay an appearance fee to the Commissioner of MLB to hand the owner said trophy proclaiming him the best owner in MLB!--and probably money left over! Change the system to put in a salary cap--not happening!
I love how the Twins make the playoffs 6 times in 9 years....yet many of you folks say "Playoffs mean nothing, its all about the titles" and yet you bring up the Tigers and Rangers (Two teams who haven't won a title anytime recently) as an example as such a much superior org then the Twins.
It's hard to take those people seriously at times....
The Rays had a nice run no doubt, but have lost in the first round of the playoffs the 3 times. Additionally, I am pretty sure the Twins have the consensus best farm system in baseball...so shouldn't the Twins scouting department reap some of the praise for that? As far as the "GM with a pair of balls" comment, that is not even worth a retort as it is immature and pointless.
Moderator note: Some of you need to tone down the rhetoric. Every thread here does not need to break down into the Twins not spending according to how you think they should, nor do we need to question the 'balls' of our GM ... you can find better ways to express and argue your points than with disgruntled nothingness.
Morneau- Injury issues that nobody could predict, honestly, was it worth trying to bring him back this year?
Alexi Casilla- You arguing the Twins should have kept him around?
Cabrera- Not in baseball period. Twins should have kept him around?
Crede- Not in baseball period. Twins should have kept him around?
Delmon- Terrible. Twins should have kept him around?
Gomez-Did absolutely nothing for the Twins. Got Hardy in return (another issue in itself) Late bloomer, yeah the Twins should have kept him around, but hard to argue with them trading him at the time.
Cuddyer- I looooovvved Cuddyer, however 3 years/32 mil was a bit much. Since leaving one very mediocre year one nice year offensively...provides nothing really in defensive value.
Kubel- (Actually back on the roster)
Span- Pretty sure we will all take the Meyer for Span trade at this point and moving forward.
Punto- I miss him, but does anyone else?
Harris- Is he in baseball anymore?
Redmond- Coach now
Tolbert- Out of baseball
Buscher- Out of baseball
Morales- Out of baseball
Blackburn- Out of baseball (more or less)
Liriano- Yeah, this one hurts/sucks.
Baker- Has done zero since leaving the Twins due to injury issues
Slowey- Other than a few decent starts in Miami (then demoted to bullpen) has done nothing.
Nathan- Stud, no doubt. Hard to justify the Twins giving him 10+ mil a year (esp with Perkins)
Guerrier- Solid, but has regressed since leaving, Twins were smart not to overpay.
Mijares- Didn't like letting him go, but mehhhhhh had a rough year last year.
Keppel- Out of baseball.
Crain- This was a mistake.
Other than Liriano (To be frank, I wanted him to stay but he didn't do much of anything his last several years here) Nathan (Not a huge loss with Perkins stepping in) and Crain, I can't really see where the Twins have really messed up letting those other players from 09 go.... in fact, I think because of this it gives em a real nice shot to take a real nice run in 2015/2016/2017 etc.
In fact, as much as I hate the Cards, they are a premier example on how to build a team: Build GREAT in house talent, continue to replenish the farm, and make some smart plays on the FA market (and realize when its time to let people go- Like Pujols, Beltran etc)