Calling Florimon a "below average" hitter is being pretty generous.
He's really very good defensively & if the Twins had a better offense from other positions it wouldn't be so bad. Right now, I can't think of one position where the Twins have someone who is one of the best offensive players at their position. If Colabello & Plouffe keep it up they will be but I'm not certain that will happen.
Florimon is the best defensive SS the Twins have had in a long time....maybe Greg Gagne was as good... so I think they should stick with him for awhile. If he could just cut down on his SO & make better contact he would be a valuable player.
I agree that .611 OPS is bad and .815 is nice.
However... I make this point every year... Maybe twice a year.
That .200 plus OPS is a difference of 56 bases.
Spread out over 134 (Florimon's 2013 total) games and it's 1 extra base every 2.3 games.
The margins are thin and baseball is a game of inches and sometimes you win with 7 of Diamonds and a 2 of clubs.
Dear Bruno... Beat Florimon senseless until he goes with the pitch.
Honestly if you compare Florimon's 2013 hitting to just about any other guy who played middle infield since Hardy left, Florimon is really not that far off offensively.
Florimon's 2013 stat line is identical to Dozier's 2012 stat line. Plouffe couldn't hit out of the .230s when he was shortstop (did provide some power). None of the other guys like Carroll, Tolbert, Hughes, could provide any offense at all, except Casilla. Yeah so Florimon is not the future shortstop, but I will defend him against these other guys we've had, in a heartbeat.
It has been a couple years since my last post... Much to the fact that the twins have been so hard to watch I can't even bring myself to care anymore. This year things feel different... Not saying they will be anything but a middle of the road team in the central. However, after watching this hilariously sad video I must say I feel quite good about the team we have today. Other than Pedro's inability to hit right handed, he really is an excellent defensive short stop... One of the best in the league if I dare say so. Either way I just love the flashback headlines from 2011/2012... "Worst twin ever?" Hahaha yes... Yes he was.
LOL "is nishioka betting against the twins?"
I love watching P-Flo play defense but I leave the room when he comes to the plate. It's embarrassing that a player on a major league roster is that useless at the dish.
A well known SS in these parts with a career slash line much like Pedro with:
.232/.277/.296/.573 ops+ 62
.212/.273/.314/.587 ops+ 63
A guess? Our beloved manager Gardy! I would guess Padro is a little better fielder than Gardy was but I seriously doubt he battles his tail off like Gardy did.
There is a list of comparable guys at BB Ref and one thing they have in common is they didn't last long, just like Gardy.
The problem with Florimon is that they can't hide his bat in this offense - when it returns to the mean (which it will be bad). You can't have Susuki, Hicks, Florimon in the lineup at the same time and expect good things. You would need Susuki and Hicks to be better then league average and I just don't see that happening right now to cover Florimon's bat.
Florimon has one tool that is MLB caliber - defense, and One tool that is barley AA caliber - offense.
Unfortunately, baseball is mostly a 2-way sport. Twins would be crazy to not try and find a player who can play both ways at an MLB level. Is Nunez the guy? I don't know.
But Florimon is not the answer to our SS problems. He is the problem.
Its not a perfect comparison, but Florimon and Jose Iglesias were very similar players up until last year. All glove, no bat. Iglesias turns in one really good offensive season that no previous numbers would suggest are possible and is flipped, essentially, for a guy that is comparable to Oswaldo Arcia (Avisail Garcia).
Obviously his current offense is unacceptable, but I'd still give him til June 1st to get to .220 (.650) before I pull the plug, especially given his spring injury.
Florimon and Peralta both played exactly 102 "complete games" in 2013, and each had 446 and 448 PAs, respectively. Either of those figures would be much more appropriate for this comparison.
That takes it down to 1 extra base every 1.8 games, which is actually a pretty massive difference. If you compare Mauer to Kurt Suzuki for 2013 (prorating Suzuki's stats to Mauer's PA), Mauer only had 1 extra base every 1.9 games. Comparing prorated Hicks to Carlos Gomez in 2013, it's 1 extra base every 1.6 games.
It's exactly the difference you would expect between an all-star and a scrub.