The only certainty about promoting May (or Meyer) over Pino or Johnson is that it would be sexier and please the 'let-the-kids-play' crowd. What's correct, of course, is up for debate.
Moderator note -- please refrain from using phrasing like "the only certainty". This kind of statement does not promote debate and will often be offensive to people who disagree.
Pino certainly has paid his dues. My guess is that May won't be promoted before Meyers. Given his history he needs to prove himself in AAA before they call him up.
Pino gets this start while they decide which of Burton, Guerrier, and Deduno to let go, then transitions to the pen when they bring up May? Please?
May will likely be the next one up, even if it is to replace Pino after this start. It just was not feasible to get him up Thursday when he pitched Monday.
I just dont follow why this is OK. We have virtual agreement about the fact that Meyer will be a better major league pitcher. We have virtual agreement that another two months in AAA is not going to do much of anything for Meyer, except get him closer to or right to his innings limit. Yet we are supposed to be okay with a 29 year old because he is having a good year? "paid his dues", and "deserves a shot" and "don't worry Meyer and May will eventually be up" are really the defense of this move?
My two cents is we have been conditioned to really, really weird decisions by this franchise. Especially lately.
I may sound like a broken record here. But this franchise needs to get on the same page and stop this willy nilly approach. Are we a rebuilding team, a contending team? Is our goal 4th place in the AL central? The FO needed to communicate a goal to the fans and coaches about what exactly it is we are trying to do.
People can criticize Houston's $20M payroll and that is embarrasing. But they at least had a vision and a blueprint. That allowed them to make certain decisions through the lens of building a contending team. They didn't sign Jason Bartlett's or Matt Guerriers. When they needed an outfielder this year, they promoted Jon Singleton, their #3 prospect who is 23 years old, not their version of Chris Parmelee or CC. Here they sit, with the same amount of wins as us (and three more losses). They seem to be moving in the right direction, developing the guys that are going to help them win tomorrow.
I don't advocate the $20M payroll. Mauer would not allow us to get that low anyway, and I am OK with a vet here or there if they are not blocking anyone of value. But this franchise would be in a much better position if we had a vision and blueprint three years ago.
1-3 years from now, it doesn't matter if we won 74 games or 76 games in 2014. It really doesn't at all. That is why I am unable to "strip away" who is the best for our future. I don't get the premise at all.
Not to mention Meyer's stuff is more likely to get MLB hitters out. So we are more likely to have more wins with Meyer, IMO
Earlier this week Gardy told us that we can't promote the kids (Meyer) because there are roster issues at play and that you can't put all your stock in AAA stats because of the difference in competition, but who do they promote? The guy with the best stats who requires a 40 man move.
I'm going to go out on a limb and wager Pino's 87 mph fastball doesn't translate so well to the change in competition.
I'll say this, he's pitched well enough that he deserves a shot, whether that's as a starter or as a reliever. I have no problem letting him have a few starts to see if he hack it. If he does, then you have a trade chip.
If the Twins are going for it this year, they don't have the margin to not put out their best every game. Meyer has the better chance of winning on Thursday.
When you try to do both win and rebuild, you end up in a cycle of mediocrity. The Twins may have improved to mediocre this year. They may stay mediocre for several more.
My hope is that this is a one-start thing. If the Twins really thought Pino was worth a rotation spot, shouldn't he have had one years ago?
The Twins continue to mismanage their pitching assets. They won't contend so long as it continues. No amount of excuses will change that.
I predict that Pino will do well in his first start (assuming they get the game in, I think it might be rained out) because the competition will be unfamiliar with his stuff and Pino should be coming in with some confidence.
I mean, if I got promoted over May and Meyer, I'd feel pretty confident!
I think we will see Pino start Thursday, then likely be moved to the bullpen, at the expense of hopefully Guerrier or Burton, then when his spot in the rotation comes up again May gets the start or the Twins shuffle their rotation a little bit to have May start on regular rest.
That is my hope too, a one start thing. They told the guy, you are 29 and have been applying for this job for 9 years. We are going to bring Meyer up but we need to line the days up. Fly your family in, you will be pitching for one game at Target field. Congrats.
If they move him to the pen after a start I would not be as upset, but then would rather have Tonkin or Achter with the same logic applying.
In 1,093 major league innings, he has a 3.74 ERA with 8.1 K per 9. As a 29 year old journeyman.
It really should not matter who has a better chance to win Thursday, it should be about developing our best pitching prospect. But for the sake of argument, even if it was about who had the better chance of winning Thursday, my vote would still be Meyer.