I'd be up for Ubaldo also.
I'd be up for Ubaldo also.
One thing that many posters seem to be forgetting or missing is that the Twins don't have the luxury of saying, "I'm not going over 'x' years or 'x' dollars" and still hope to sign a one of the better FA pitchers. If the Twins really like Ubaldo and they feel that his worth (which is known to be very conserative) is 3 years and $36 million, they may need to go up to 4yrs and $50 to get him to come to MN. That can be said for many of these guys. IMO, the Twins best bets are to get in one guy like this (prefer Jimenez or Hughes as they have limited injury history) and then possibly two guys like Johnson ($6-7M) and Haren ($8-9M) on one year deals. The Twins won't completely handcuff themselves with more than one long-term overpay, if there's one at all.
Yeah, there is really no chance the Twins sign someone like Lincecum. A signing like that would look despereate (and TR has never acted out of desperation), and also set a franchise record for most $$ given to an outside free-agent. Twin Lincecum will not happen, sadly.
I'd love to see a breakdown of the largest F.A. contract ever handed out by each team in MLB.
Twins have to be last, right?
Houston must have had a big one before the rebuild
Off the top of my head I can't think of a big one in Cinci (unless you count Chapman, but then you'd have to count Cespedes in Oakland)
Milwaukee has had some splashes, but really only in the trade market
A very quick look here: ( 2012 MLB Baseball Free Agent Tracker - Major League Baseball - ESPN ) and I didn't find one above $21M for Oakland or San Diego. The list goes back to 2006
Cinci would be tied at $21M (Jonathan Broxton) if you don't count Chapman (which this list did)
I did find some forgettable signings from Milwaukee though :)
Team Years Dollars Player Angels 10 250,000,000 Albert Pujols Astros 6 100,000,000 Carlos Lee Athletics 2 10,500,000 Brian Fuentes Blue Jays 2 18,120,000 Frank Thomas Braves 5 75,250,000 B.J. Upton Brewers 4 42,000,000 Jeff Suppan Cardinals 2 26,000,000 Carlos Beltran Cubs 8 136,000,000 Alfonso Soriano Diamondbacks 3 26,000,000 Cody Ross Dodgers 6 147,000,000 Zack Greinke Giants 7 126,000,000 Barry Zito Indians 4 56,000,000 Nick Swisher Mariners 4 48,000,000 Carlos Silva Marlins 6 106,000,000 Jose Reyes Mets 4 66,000,000 Jason Bay Nationals 7 126,000,000 Jayson Werth Orioles 3 20,000,000 Aubrey Huff Padres 2 11,500,000 Orlando Hudson Phillies 5 120,000,000 Cliff Lee Pirates 2 17,000,000 Russell Martin Rangers 6 96,000,000 Adrian Beltre Rays 2 16,000,000 Pat Burrell Red Sox 7 142,000,000 Carl Crawford Reds 4 46,000,000 Francisco Cordero Rockies 3 31,500,000 Michael Cuddyer Royals 5 55,000,000 Gil Meche Tigers 9 214,000,000 Prince Fielder Twins 3 21,000,000 Josh Willingham White Sox 4 56,000,000 Adam Dunn Yankees 8 180,000,000 Mark Teixeira
There are 6 teams with a lower "Highest paid free agent signing" than the Twins (A's, Blue Jays, Orioles, Padres, Pirates, Rays)
Of those 6 teams, they all have a higher "per year highest paid FA" than the Twins (Willingham @ $7M per year), except for the Orioles (those contracts are not necessarily shown on this list)
This is only since 2006
Teams spent a lot of money in 2006 compared to the years that followed.
There were 33 contracts handed out in 2006 that exceeded $10,000,000. That is more than any year since (33,12,14,18,20,21,24)
Was there a new TV contract in 2006?
I've completely strayed off topic here, but it's interesting to me. Hopefully it's interesting to at least one other person.
Answer to the 2006 TV contract question: Yes. A new lucrative contract was signed that year ( Fox, TBS have seven-year, $3 billion TV deal with MLB - MLB - ESPN )
Someone warn Terry Ryan
Thanks for the research, amjgt
Lincecum re-ups with the Gigantes--2 years, $35M!!??
yes, Lincecum off the market and signed for "reasonable" 17.5 million per year. He made 22 mill this year
and that concludes this thread
I guess, I'd have to say "free agent" would have to be players not previously on your team as Morneau and Mauer would kill that statistic and put us in the top 5-8 teams in terms of contracts per year value. Which, I believe is worth noting.
Holy cow, that is a lot of money for a guy that has not been good lately. Holy cow.
Lincecum is not worth $17.5M a year and Hunter Pence is not worth $18M a year.
SF market dictates prices (devalues money) at over 2x what it does to MSP.
I'd rather be a 'farm team' than teams that sign players that age and duration for contract anyway. What's exciting about Lincecum and Pence coming back and their best season behind them?
Giants overcommit to Hunter Pence | HardballTalk
Why the San Francisco Giants overpaid for Hunter Pence - MLB - ESPN
Is Hunter Pence Worth Huge $90 Million Contract from S.F. Giants? | Bleacher Report
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Kawakami: San Francisco Giants overpay Tim Lincecum for a reason - San Jose Mercury News
"In a cold, clinical accounting of Tim Lincecum's true baseball value, his new two-year deal with the Giants for $35 million doesn't just seem high, it seems partially insane.
For two seasons, he has been a below-average starter in an extremely pitcher-friendly ballpark. There's no getting around that unless you just want to imagine otherwise."
Read that last article if you read anything. Look at how the Giants spend and spend and yet, there's no hope there in the words of the beat writer.
If Lincecum gets 2 yr $35M...what does Garza get? 4yr $100M?