16. A.J. Burnett, SP: On one hand, he led baseball in strikeout rate among starters and paired that with an absurd 56.5 percent groundball rate. On the other, he says he only wants to go back to Pittsburgh and doesn’t seem to mind killing his free-agent value. To each his own.
There have been multiple other reports saying the same thing on Burnett.
If I could 'like' your post, Hugh, I would (but alas that feature seems to have disappeared). Regardless, nice, even-handed take.
Can we sign both Arroyo & Hudson giving the team the oldest starting rotation in history?
Ladies & gentleman, your 2014 MN Senior Twins!
If your not going to go after an Ace, I am ok with going after these older guys who can stabilize the rotation a little while not having to go 4-5 years on mediocre pitchers.
They better hope some of these young pitchers start contributing or bust out. There's a lot riding on Meyer, May, & Gibson along with the next wave with Eades, Berrios, Thorpe, Stewart etc...
Spending money an Arroyo would at least signal to the baseball world the Twins are serious about spending to add talent. While he is a mid rotation guy, th is a step in the right direction. A much better option than Pelfrey
So to everyone... In my opinion... There is not an ace available in this free agent class.
Tanaka maybe... I really don't know since his success was on a different continent.
After that it's Garza... I don't think he's an ace.
Kuroda is 39.
The Twins will have to settle for mid rotation or lower down types like Arroyo.
Trading for an ace will be impossible because our entire roster played themselves into low value and our prospects should be untouchable.
Just wanted to point that out for no reason... Carry on.
Just last offseason the Cubs made several free agent pickups. So did the Brewers. So did Toronto. So did Pittsburgh. So did the Indians - all coming off lousy seasons. So when Terry Ryan says players won't play for a non-contender, I think that's a lousy excuse.
Here's a challenge to those who think money isn't the overriding factor: find a report from Milwaukee about Lohse turning down more money from other clubs to play in Milwaukee, like we now know was the case with Correia. Or for Michael Bourn and Nick Swisher - were they offered more money to play elsewhere like Willingham was?
I'm sure I violated some sort of policy and that's why you're bullying my attempt at fun out of the thread. My apologies for cracking a joke and including an obvious tongue-in-cheek smiley face with it.
If the Twins sign Arroyo, I will not soil myself, I will not puke on the dinner table at Thanksgiving.
From afar, I have always liked Arroyo. Sure, he is not the dream come true signing, but like R. Brian has stated there is no ace on the FA landscape.
Obviously Bronson is a PTC pitcher, but I have always dug his persona and I think he would be a clubhouse differential kind of guy. Someone with a little flare and a character to a large degree... maybe it will rub off on a few of his teammates.
He will play his guitar and sing his teammates some Alt. Rock songs and he will pitch better than anyone we have had on this ball club in a few years. He is more promising to me than the Correia signing.
Thumbs up if it happens!
2. Find me a report that said another team offered Bourn and Loshe a contract elsewhere of the same length.
3. Yes many teams made pickups. How many of them were highly ranked? All teams sign free agents. How many of them sign the top tier? KC had to trade for top level pitching talent to get to 86-76.
I suppose there is a large fan base out there that take everything literally so Ryan would need to spend a half a day defining every word said. There are players that would really help your club, there are players that were little better than replacements. Which type of player when people, not just GMs, are talking about when they say they should go out and get a free agent?
I do want Super Bowls. I remember Fran Tarkington and the Purple People Eaters. I also watched or listened to every game in 87 and want that again but a true fan (abbreviation of Fanatic btw) should recognize rebuilding will take some average and above average years on the way to the World Series. The 87 core came up in 82?
none of this means we should be accepting of the past three years, they sucked to live through (so did the late 70s and early 80s) but let's be realistic. TR is still rebuilding Bill Smiths mess and he has done a nice job rebuilding the "system" but MLB results take time and I want to see more wins next year. +10 would be appropriate. Do I want and dream of more? Yes!! But give me at least that +10!!
P.S. To the Moderators/rulers of TD... Please bring back the Like Button.... please!!
If Ryan used those words publicly... That would be a mistake of poor salesmanship on his part. And I tend to defend Ryan. I'll forgive him but a mistake nonetheless.
Any pitcher that can give you 200+ innings at slightly better than league average on a short term contract is a no brainer to sign even if its an overpay. With a starting pitcher like that and our bullpen being way better than average, we are positioned to win more games than we loose with him as long as we get league average offense. Now we just need to duplicate that 5 times instead of wanting to pin it all on one expensive high risk all in pitcher. It doesn't matter if the pitcher is Arroyo or Santana or Pelfry (I doubt he will pitch much if any better than average but still)...if we can have a team era better than average for the 1500 inning season and score league average offense we should have a winning season. As far as Arroyo is concerned, if the Twins want him for 2 years maybe 13-14 million per to get it done or add a 3rd season or option that's reachable.....We add some one like Kazmir and that's 400 innings of 3.80-3.90 era for our rotation which is huge. someone should add up how much the 4th and 5th starters gave up last year and compare to what these 2 should give up and see how many runs we are likely to shave off of last seasons total all other being equal.
Sometimes I get the impression that some TD'ers judge pitchers like Arroyo in comparison to Kershaw instead of judged in comparison to someone like Hughes.
Personally... I think Arroyo is an eye of the beholder thing. I like him better than Hughes.
However... I want to be clear... I like Wacha better than Arroyo.