Who knows, either way not a big deal.
In the bullpen the team has Burton, Duensing, Fien, Ibara, Perkins, Pressly, Swarzak, Tonkin, Thieldbar. (With a bunch of other potential 40 man additions). Johnson fits the teams needs better. We can bitch and moan about Johnson being a bad player but we're talking about the bottom of a 40 man roster. The team wasn't going to turn Welker into anything else. So why keep him? Roll the dice on Welker and see if you can get a Scott Diamond again.
I hope this trade is more about not needing a reliever, and getting an extra starter for Rochester, but the past few seasons of cycling through AAA starters in MLB (and Johnson's 40-man roster requirement) have me suspicious.
For what it's worth, Thrylos' scouting report was accurate.
Fastball 91-94, throws a 4-seam and a sinker. Change up is his second pitch and he throws it 82-86, small sample size but hitters had a tough time with that pitch. Throws a slider and curve as well. http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.asp...886&position=P
So he does seem to have better stuff than the guys we've been throwing out. I'm okay with some competition for the 5th spot/bullpen. He could be a useful player.
Not only could he potentially be useful, but they got him for Welker, who isn't going to be useful for the Twins.
Those pitchFX numbers are from his 10 MLB innings, which were mostly in relief, right? Suggests his velocity might be a little lower when starting.
Like I said, he could be useful. I'm okay with taking different avenues to try to acquire arms. I haven't seen him pitch enough to know what he can or can't be.
The very arguments you make about Welker being bottom of the 40 man fluff apply to this guy too. All we did was add an older version of Welker and a position we're already redundant at.
He was cut from Boston in the middle of the 2011 season and went to Kansas (IL) to finish the season. Several of his College (Wichita St) teammates were playing there and he knew the place so he chose to go there. This is not a guy who could not find a job and went to the ILs. Signed with Pittsburgh next winter. Not a Colabello/Thielbar/Albers story by any means.
I guess some of us confuse "stuff" with "ability to strike guys out". I know I do, when I say a guy doesn't have stuff, I don't mean he can't throw 94 MPH, I mean his pitching repertoire does not seem to create easy outs. Johnson has pitched 431 AAA innings and has a K/9 rate of 5.9/9 ip, his K/BB rate is well under the magic 2.00 line. For reference Pedro Hernandez (in a smaller sample size) at AAA: 6.2/3.09, and we saw how that worked out for the Twins.
It's very rare for a guy with this long of a questionable AAA track record to get magically better in the majors. It's just more of the same. We can trash the viability of Welker all we want, and perhaps for merit, but I just don't see anything in Johnson's past to indicate he has the "stuff" to be a competent major league starter. Unless he has developed a knuckle ball it just ain't happening unless he gets extremely lucky, and that labels him as more of the same to me.
I thought he was a former number one who is this old upon reaching the majors because of injuries... This is someone that sounds like he is a minor upgrade over some of what we have already got.
I will never complain about an upgrade and do not understand the vitriol exhibited here. What have we lost? Nothing!! Did we gain much? No, just a little but it is a gain.
I personally prefer a 94 MPH fastball over 88 which is what has gone out there at times recently... Just trying to say take a deep breath and chill a bit.