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Fien 1-2-3 top of the 6th, Fly out, two ground outs.

Dozier walk, Clete Thomas double, Escobar just knocked in a RBI with a sac fly.

This right here. I'm certainly going to continue to express my discontent when i disagree with the actions or lack thereof of the FO, but at the end of the day i'm still going to be watching and...

Edit: I can see neither side is going anywhere on this one, so I'll leave well enough alone for the time being.

No one said that.

No one said that.

You just said that Marcum is a top 30 pitcher and a #2 if he's healthy. That would constitute an "actually good pitcher"

Once again, you're just dodging...

We should be so lucky to have pitchers who are barely top 30 starters

Well, thats great. But that is a baseless guess you're making. Once again, how would it have hurt the team in any way to sign Marcum as well as Harden and Pelfrey?

So you'd rather the Pohlad's pocket a little bit more money than have the Twins put a better product on the field unless they're going to win the World Series?

Maybe I missed it somewhere in here,...

OK. And Correia and De Vries might not be better than a 14 year old little leaguer if they can't pitch or they get injured. Harden's arm might fall off high fiving Butera during Spring training. The...

Are you really asking if Marcum is a better pitcher than Correia and Devries and then telling us that no one could possibly know that?

Edit: or I misread it and you meant "better" as in "is he...

Now if we can just convince the rest of the league that the Nick Blackburns of the world are the guys you want for all 5 of your starting pitchers...

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Looks to me like you're still bothering with it.

The details are a bit hazy from all the mind numbing chemicals it required to watch Twins games in 2012, but I recall other teams' hitters doing just dandy with that settling concrete in Target Field,

So, you're saying Dozier is just as good defensively at 2b as Casilla? Where are you drawing this conclusion from?


Edit: Also, in terms of Florimon being a >> defensive upgrade over Dozier at...

Or, we could be realistic. I'm pretty sure most of the folks on this board would like nothing more than a Twins team and FO that inspired optimism and confidence, but unfortunately that isn't the...

If they weren't canned after those 12 straight playoff losses, the following two 95+ loss seasons would have certainly done them in on just about any team, regardless of if it was NY or Boston or...

Oops. Typo aside, the Wild dispel that argument of his very quickly.

Parise and Sutter to the Wild ring a bell?

29 other teams don't have the same need for decent starting pitching like the Twins do + a boatload of payroll flexibility now and in the future if we wanted to sign a longer term deal.

Also,...

So you're telling me that if we offered Marcum $5-$8M or so, which is still completely reasonable in my book, that he still would have preferred to go to the Mets? The METS?

I understand that...

I seem to recall subtle mentions of us pursuing some pretty darn good pitchers. It's a damn shame that we have so many of them that we can't sign more without fear of blocking all of those other...

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. A 1 year contract with Marcum would have somehow affected the promotion of mystery players we don't even have yet, but should draft? Or is your concern that May...

Improving our embarrassment of a rotation for relatively cheap makes great sense any way I look at it. It's not like I think that signing Marcum magically makes us contenders or a .500 team, but it...

Diamond, Worley, Butera, Correia, Pitching Machine/Blackburn.

As if having Correia on your team isn't bad enough, we had to give the guy a 2 year deal? For $10M? When we already have a handful of league minimum guys who can put up the same type of numbers?...

I can dig that. Today has been a good day.