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    I guess that would be another way to say it, but...

    I guess that would be another way to say it, but Gardy seems to think just about everyone does that. James isn't real fast and he doesn't hit Home runs so that might keep him in the utility role. ...
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    I am cheering him on. He is one of my favorite...

    I am cheering him on. He is one of my favorite players. He just seems scrappy, a tough out, solid in the field. He might not have the high end talent that some guys do but he gets the most out of...
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    I was a flip flopper on Kubel. At first I...

    I was a flip flopper on Kubel. At first I thought it was a good idea for the Twins to get him and then after spring training I thought keeping him was an extremely bad idea. Luckily I don't run the...
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    Yeah looking at it from that perspective frames...

    Yeah looking at it from that perspective frames things in a significantly different way than I think about it. I look at it from a stats and player comparison point of view. Not based on the height...
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    JB I am inclined to agree with you. I know from...

    JB I am inclined to agree with you. I know from personal experience that he elicits an emotional response when batting. I can't count the number of times I have screamed at my screen after Joe...
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    Thanks I should have read that before I posted...

    Thanks I should have read that before I posted again. I am learning new things in this thread. There is a lot more math in this game than I ever figured there would be.;)
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    Yeah I thought about it more after I posted and...

    Yeah I thought about it more after I posted and there is the chance for the extra base hit or single that would score the runner from second base which a walk would not do. The trouble with Joe...
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    I guess I don't understand why a walk would be...

    I guess I don't understand why a walk would be less valuable than a single on the first pitch. Isn't the idea to make the pitcher work by taking pitches and then still get on base. If you ascribe...
  9. Lots of people on here knew the pitching likely...

    Lots of people on here knew the pitching likely wouldn't be good this year. Better than last year was the best that most could agree on. I guess I drank the positive Kool-aide because I thought...
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    Dang I am wrong yet again. I hate statistics. :D...

    Dang I am wrong yet again. I hate statistics. :D I wonder who was first those years?
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    I think stats and eye test will bare this out. ...

    I think stats and eye test will bare this out. Mauer has no power so unless someone is in scoring position there is no need to pitch around him. If I was pitching to Mauer I would throw Strike one...
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    I am starting to understand the other side better...

    I am starting to understand the other side better but I can only think of two players who were the type of player that most would like Joe to be and that is Miguel Cabrera and Albert Pujols. ...
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    The other thing you have to consider here is that...

    The other thing you have to consider here is that once the bases were loaded the pitcher had to throw strikes and likely good ones. Plouffe was going to see better pitches than Mauer. The other...
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    Yeah I've never heard of Joe really "mentoring"...

    Yeah I've never heard of Joe really "mentoring" someone not that it hasn't happened but given who he is I doubt it would be like Hunter or Pucket. I think you are right about him in that regard I...
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    I cannot defend the hit-able pitches argument as...

    I cannot defend the hit-able pitches argument as I have seen him take strike one right down the middle maybe thousands of time now. It is his approach and yes even I have been exasperated by it. ...
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    Touche'. Lot's of players have several mentor's...

    Touche'. Lot's of players have several mentor's and coaches throughout there career's. These people coach and mentor hundreds and some thousands of players in their lifetime and only a tiny...
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    Personally I think Joe has tried at times to hit...

    Personally I think Joe has tried at times to hit more home runs as I saw his average drop and noticed him hitting balls to the warning track more often at certain points in past years. I don't know...
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    Certainly Mauer could be more aggressive at the...

    Certainly Mauer could be more aggressive at the plate if he chose to. You make a valid point there. From my perspective the most important thing for a batter is to not make an out. A walk, a...
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    You are right. I get a bit to emotional when...

    You are right. I get a bit to emotional when passion and leadership get equated with skill. Those arguments bother me because there is nothing factual there. I try to stay objective but I lose it...
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    This leadership thing seems so bogus to me. ...

    This leadership thing seems so bogus to me. First can you name me a player that does what you describe. I haven't heard a story where players do that. Typically those things are the job of the...
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    As much as I hate to admit it I think you are...

    As much as I hate to admit it I think you are right. Personally I Vehemently disagree with the Mauer detractors but you are right he is not immune to criticism and people are entitled to see things...
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    I tend to agree with you here. I see both sides...

    I tend to agree with you here. I see both sides of Mauer and although I line up on the pro side there is some validity to what the other side says. In other words they aren't all wrong about him...
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    I am inclined to agree with you Willie. I think...

    I am inclined to agree with you Willie. I think Mauer suffers more from being not interesting than anything else. Comparing him to Kirby makes the contrast almost unpalatable. The large contract...
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    I agree and would prefer an arm over any of the...

    I agree and would prefer an arm over any of the above. The Twins never, ever, ever buy ace pitchers in FA. We need lot's of chances to develop one.

    Having said that I was someone who didn't want...
  25. Thanks for the insight. I guess I don't...

    Thanks for the insight. I guess I don't understand how Sulbaran could have better stats than Berrios in A ball but be considered such a lessor talent? Even though Nunez is slightly better than what...
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