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    Quote Originally Posted by halfchest View Post
    for OF I meant give Parmelee another shot out there this year. Also wouldn't mind seeing Plouffe get some outfield reps if/when Sano comes out. I'd love to see if Plouffe could fill a utility DH/corner OF/IF role at some point.
    Don' t forget Arcia....I know there are so MANY!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
    This, this, this.

    The upcoming draft should have zero bearing on the construction of this year's MLB roster. Take the BPA in the draft (as one should in every draft) and then base your MLB roster decisions on your current roster, available trades/free agents, and a couple of guys in the upper minors.

    This, this, this

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    Agreed, there's not nearly the hype on this guy as there was for Abreu, his price should be much less

    That being said, if the Dodgers, Yankees or another big club wants him, we probably can't kid ourselves, the Twins would have to overpay to pry him out of the big market, contending team.
    Well the Dodgers picked up Arreabeunaciaobellasonnybono today, maybe they wouldn't be a player.

    I'm all for stocking up on promising Cubans, I'm just skeptical that this guy is any good, from what little I've read about him. I would hate for it to turn into another Nishi situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    It's sane to go after the younger guy you may be able to include in future plans, who is more likely cheaper and doesn't require a draft pick. It seems much less sane to give three years at $10 mill per to an injury prone, 31-year-old who skated by on RHP and home splits which mask a clear and quick decline into what should be a bench/utility role.
    I guess we'll just have to wait and see which option provides more major league value over the next couple years.In any case I ask again...why not both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    Well the Dodgers picked up Arreabeunaciaobellasonnybono today, maybe they wouldn't be a player.

    I'm all for stocking up on promising Cubans, I'm just skeptical that this guy is any good, from what little I've read about him. I would hate for it to turn into another Nishi situation.
    It isn't a nishi situation. He'd almost certainly start in AA or AAA, not the majors. And you still have Floriman holding down the fort until someone arrives.

    All this is is what it would be like if US players were FAs and not drafted. You pay to acquire talent.
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    3 million per? isint that below leaque average?

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    The Dodgers just gave light hitting Cuban SS Erisbel Arruebarruena $25 million. I would say Diaz's price just went way up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    It isn't a nishi situation. He'd almost certainly start in AA or AAA, not the majors. And you still have Floriman holding down the fort until someone arrives.

    All this is is what it would be like if US players were FAs and not drafted. You pay to acquire talent.
    Only report I have seen says he is major leaque ready hitter now, with potential 20 HR power.
    Nuff said ....

    Imagine Sano Diaz Dozier and Mauer= 70-100 Hr from your infield

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppearson50 View Post
    The Dodgers just gave light hitting Cuban SS Erisbel Arruebarruena $25 million. I would say Diaz's price just went way up.
    Yeah, I'd say the price tag is going to be the big question here. Last year around this time (before Diaz was busted for lying about his age) reports had a Twins source saying "The projected money is getting out of hand" in regards to Diaz.

    I haven't seen or found any projections, but I'd guess it would be somewhere in the Alexander Guerrero range. Diaz put up similar (slightly better) numbers to Guerrero in their age 21 seasons.

    Guerrero got $7 million per, but is three years older. So maybe somewhere in the six year, $42 million range.

    I'd do it due to the upside, but I'm not sure if the Twins would be willing to risk that much money on an unproven player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppearson50 View Post
    The Dodgers just gave light hitting Cuban SS Erisbel Arruebarruena $25 million. I would say Diaz's price just went way up.
    BLAST! I wanted to hear Blyleven try to pronounce that one!

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    Put me in the "get him if he can stick at short camp".

    He is 23 and does not require a trade or draft pick compensation.

    Also, I agree with Mike, we can always use more assets.

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    I know nothing about Diaz, and I probably couldn't even pick Drew out of a police lineup, but it would be great to see some effort put into filling the shortstop position.

    As I've painfully learned as a homeowner, once you know there's a problem, the longer you wait to fix it, the more likely it won't get fixed (or the more likely you will have to pay more for a fix on shorter notice).

    I'm a realist, and I know the Twins aren't likely to contend in 2014, so throwing Florimon/Escobar out there again isn't the end of the world. But passing on potentially better options now does make it less likely that we will acquire one before 2015. (Same for 2016 and Danny Santana, I suppose, if you share my skepticism about him.)

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    spycake, I think it is way too early to be skeptical about Danny Santana whatever type of talent he has now. He may mature into a fine player and then again, not. But let's wait awhile before we pass judgment on him or any of the other youngsters for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
    I think the Twins should take an any and all approach to SS. So, yeah, let's go after him.
    I agree to the general theory here of an all hands on deck approach at SS. I think you have to be a little hesitant as it sounds like scouts are saying 60-60 bat-power and 60-60 arm-range, based on very little tape.

    Assuming this guy gets paid like Cespedes or Puig or anything near it, you have to be a little cautious given the lack of information. If he works out and you see it first hand that is another thing.

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    Yeah I think Nishioka will probably keep us a little gun shy on the international players. Guys like Sano are a different story because the relative investment is nothing.

    MLB does need to include these guys in the draft. Maybe it was Keith Law who made the point of how crazy this is, the White Sox gave Abreau $68M and he would likely have been drafted behind Appel, Gray, and Bryant for sure. Those guys have essentially capped bonuses and salaries.

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    Scouted today by Yankees, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Mariners, Padres, Giants.

    Per Morosi.

    Twins not on the list but there are other days coming, I guess.

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    Keith laws point is that the draft is wrong, not that these guys should also have their earnings artificially repressed by the draft. I would not hold my breath waiting for the Twins to do this.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
    spycake, I think it is way too early to be skeptical about Danny Santana whatever type of talent he has now. He may mature into a fine player and then again, not. But let's wait awhile before we pass judgment on him or any of the other youngsters for that matter.
    Too early to be skeptical? I am not saying cut the guy or anything. Just that we shouldn't hold back on another potential SS solution waiting for the guy.

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    End this dream of signing Diaz. With Jeter announcing his retirement after 2014 he is as good as signed by the Yankees.

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    MLBRU is reporting an expected 20-30 million dollar contract for Diaz,While the Yankees have the name , we have only florimon in front of Diaz and we also have Pedro Anthony Oliva ....=)

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