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    OMG is Billy Hamilton fast

    This is insane - http://m.mlb.com/video/v31940121/cin...ayer_id=571740

    Scores on a sac fly to basically the second baseman. He stole his first base this season off of Molina - with no throw.

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    Jesus.

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    I think he shouldn't be batting 1st but man. OMG is right.

    Anyword on how Buxton's speed compares to Hamilton?

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    For a second I thought I was watching Willingham run, then I remembered he was out, and did not play for the Reds, otherwise it was like watching Willingham.
    Last edited by D. Hocking; 04-09-2014 at 06:11 PM.

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    There is even more on Fangraphs....the whole sequence is him. Notice that Molina doesn't even think about throwing on the steal.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-...-a-run-happen/
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    I've heard about his speed but I've never seen him before. The play where he tagged at 2nd on a short fly to right might have been more impressive.

    I believe it was Sickels or Callis that said you have to see him in person to really realize how insanely fast he is. He's hands down the fastest player they had ever seen

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    LOL, someone please make a gif of the look on Molina's face after he makes a perfect throw to second base and doesnt come close to throwing him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
    I think he shouldn't be batting 1st but man. OMG is right.

    Anyword on how Buxton's speed compares to Hamilton?
    I've seen both get 80s on the scouting scale but scouting guys say Hamilton's speed is really a 90, the scale just doesn't go that high. Buxton is fast but not Hamilton fast.

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    And yet some on this board are almost dismissive of the speed tool.

    I've always wished there was some kind of adjusted OPS to take into account the additional bases that a guy with this kind of speed are able to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks View Post
    And yet some on this board are almost dismissive of the speed tool.

    I've always wished there was some kind of adjusted OPS to take into account the additional bases that a guy with this kind of speed are able to take.
    If he takes extra bases, it should be reflected in the Slugging %.
    His problem is his OB%. He needs to swing the bat better and realize that pitchers are not going to walk him but challenge his bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
    If he takes extra bases, it should be reflected in the Slugging %.
    His problem is his OB%. He needs to swing the bat better and realize that pitchers are not going to walk him but challenge his bat.
    I meant stolen bases and tagging up on fly balls that most players wouldn't be able to, and going first to 3rd on hits that most players wouldn't be able to, stuff like that.

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    Speed like this is a weapon all it's own. No need to look at numbers to closely with Billy Hamilton. He's a potential multi base hit every time he reaches first.

    Jaw dropping speed!!! It's why I miss Ben Revere terribly.
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    I'd always hoped there was some way the Twins could snag him for an OF prospect to play SS. Imagine a future of #9 Hamilton, #1 Buxton, #2 Hicks. That speed would be insanely fun to watch.

    While I was higher on Revere than most I still understood his shortcomings but dang was he fun to watch in the same way.

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    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...r-of-them-all/

    Statistics put to use on the value of speed (actually all tools, but the last paragraph is about Billy Hamilton and speed).

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    I might be adding to this thread all through the year. Ever see anyone beat out a grounder to first before? Me neither.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v32234949/cin...infield-single

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    And, here is a nice one where he goes first to third on a come backer to the pitcher:
    http://m.mlb.com/video/v32283845/cin...ayer_id=571740

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnarthor View Post
    And, here is a nice one where he goes first to third on a come backer to the pitcher:
    http://m.mlb.com/video/v32283845/cin...ayer_id=571740
    Bryce Harper did this once last year too, except I think the shortstop fielded it. I'm surprised you don't see guys take 3rd more often like that with no outs. You would think its about as easy as stealing 2nd on a pitch.

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    How's his defense in CF been? He should be getting to more balls than anyone else.

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    Caught stealing by the Mets' Anthony Recker.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...40520_24288574

    Still fast though. Had to be a perfect play to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    Caught stealing by the Mets' Anthony Recker.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...40520_24288574

    Still fast though. Had to be a perfect play to get him.
    I really wish MLB would use more analysis like this and bring slow motion replay back to their videos.

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